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SgtSteel91 posted:I hope you can still headbutt as a Krogan in multiplayer Sudden Krogan mosh pits were great. All it took was one person jamming the button and everybody else would run over and join in. And then a pyro would spray fire everywhere. And speaking of pyros, it was amazing how many people would freak out if you played a geth soldier in pyro colors and used the flamethrower on them.
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Schubalts posted:And then a pyro would spray fire everywhere. And speaking of pyros, it was amazing how many people would freak out if you played a geth soldier in pyro colors and used the flamethrower on them. It was hilarious playing as a Geth Shotgun Infiltrator too.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:It was hilarious playing as a Geth Shotgun Infiltrator too. That was my favorite class until I unlocked the Edi copy. Still pretty close for most fun.
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I really hope they update quest management. Having played Witcher 3, then backtracking to ME 1 - 3 makes the ME mission tracking seem downright archaic. No, I don't want to actually read the mission entry, just give me the relevant popup when I'm in the area!  E: I can spelling good
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Running into artifacts in space and scouring the citadel for their recipients was retarded Really hope you can just put poo poo up in Andeomedan Craigslist and keep doing your own stuff
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steakmancer posted:Running into artifacts in space and scouring the citadel for their recipients was retarded "Listen, scout dudes on my ship, I DON'T need you to go and find more artifacts and poo poo for me. I DO need you to find the owners of all these obvious quest items."
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steakmancer posted:Running into artifacts in space and scouring the citadel for their recipients was retarded In the far future of space nobody has a telephone number.
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eonwe posted:this is going to be a good game dude just leave this thread and come back to bf1. this is gonna be a mediocre but guilty pleasure game
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Groetgaffel posted:
Inquisition only let you move the camera while you were holding down the right mouse button, so I had to hold down RMB pretty much the entire time.
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Feb 19, 2017 11:42
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Can't wait for the new game by the writers of this
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:Can't wait for the new game by the writers of this This, but unironically.
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I took this gun. Now give me your alien technology that can fix my faaaaaaaace
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Talking of space girlfriends, devs confirmed on twitter that Vetra is romanceable... but not by who. At this point she's developed such a huge fandom that it's going to go nuclear unless she ends up bisexual. I don't know who the more volatile subsection of fans would be if they can't have Vetra: the Reddit straight males or the Tumblr lesbians. its the straight males, they're far more vitriolic and awful
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Hedrigall posted:Talking of space girlfriends, devs confirmed on twitter that Vetra is romanceable... but not by who. It'll boggle my mind if it is anything other than 'either gender'. It's one of the few things DA2 did right. It's not like the characters are deep enough for straight/queer/whatever orientation to actually matter.
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FronzelNeekburm posted:Inquisition only let you move the camera while you were holding down the right mouse button, so I had to hold down RMB pretty much the entire time. You can set a toggle button for that in keybinds, actually. I think it wasn't in at launch, though, because  .Hedrigall posted:Talking of space girlfriends, devs confirmed on twitter that Vetra is romanceable... but not by who. I'm going to laugh so loving hard if Vetra is romanceable, just not by the player. That would be straight up amazing.
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Keru posted:I'm going to laugh so loving hard if Vetra is romanceable, just not by the player. That would be straight up amazing. Vetra falls in love with your eyeball computer. They elope.
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Milky Moor posted:It'll boggle my mind if it is anything other than 'either gender'. It's one of the few things DA2 did right. It's not like the characters are deep enough for straight/queer/whatever orientation to actually matter. I think it's more realistic, and gives interesting characters like Dorian and the relatively interesting Kaidan/MShep romance in 3. On the other hand, this is what leaves queer women in Inquisition with a choice between Josie (who is absolutely not bad, if painfully gender-neutral) and Sera. And yeah, straight guys are always the worst when it comes to thinking they're not being 100% catered to at all times. Tumblr lesbians tend not to find developers' home addresses and send death and rape threats to developers' families.
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:Can't wait for the new game by the writers of this They're just appreciating the classics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In4aDZf-_JI
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My unpopular gaming opinion is that Miranda's model was perfectly fine, and ME2 still continues to look great when put up against just about anything else from 2010.
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Cythereal posted:I think it's more realistic, and gives interesting characters like Dorian and the relatively interesting Kaidan/MShep romance in 3. On the other hand, this is what leaves queer women in Inquisition with a choice between Josie (who is absolutely not bad, if painfully gender-neutral) and Sera. Bioware's characters aren't exactly realistic. They're cinematic personalities designed to make the player feel good and rarely, if ever, act against the protagonist or demonstrate initiative on their own. Origins might have been the one game where it seemed like Bioware made an actual deal about character sexuality and the greater world, but it's become increasingly strange to see certain relationships gated behind gender as their games have gone on. For example, compare Origins to Inquisition. One of these feels firmly rooted in typically conservative fantasy ideas of sex and gender (just look at what Sten says to a female Warden!) because it is all mired in medieval Europe norms, and one of these feels like it has become more modern in order to broaden representation. The Qunari, for example, feel like they're being recalibrated in every single Dragon Age release. Even when I go back as far as Baldur's Gate 2, which I think had some of the best realised characters in their creative history, I have real trouble thinking that any of the characters there were having relationships that were all purely straight for any other reason than mid-90s popular/media backlash. I don't think gender-neutrality in games is good either - men and women don't have the same experiences, particularly when it comes to romance - but I'm yet to see any compelling player romance paths where I sit there and go, ah, yes, I see why this character is utterly straight. I remember plenty of people in the ME2 thread being confused by the fact that Tali runs through about 3/4 of her romance dialogue with female Shepards before suddenly stopping. Bioware recorded all the dialogue for MShep/Kaidan and FShep/Ashley in ME1. It's all just so arbitrary. For most characters, it feels nothing more than that there's an if statement that cuts in about 3/4 through their "romance path" and it suddenly bars you from continuing if you're not the 'correct' gender and that's about all the consideration made. I mean, do any of the ME2 romance options make any reference to gender or whatever? Could you just replace MShep with FShep or vice versa and have the same dialogue work perfectly well? By my memory, both Garrus and Tali work perfectly fine under that criteria. So, if that's the case, why not do it? You win easy points, make people happy, and the only thing that probably changes is some checkbox on a wiki summing up a character as straight, gay or bi.
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For alien characters I think it's super weird to have gender restricted romances. If you want to gently caress Garrus or Tali, you're a xenophile before you're gay or straight, and the same goes for them.
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quote:Even when I go back as far as Baldur's Gate 2, which I think had some of the best realised characters in their creative history record scratch ??? EDIT: Anyway, 'realistic' is kinda the wrong way to put it. I think that giving characters determined sexualities gives them deeper and more interesting character. Bisexual Dorian would erase part of that character's personality. Similarly, the fact that heterosexual/non-interracial relations are still the norm marks The Iron Bull's "I'll gently caress anybody" orientation as interesting. Fangz fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Feb 19, 2017 |
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Milky Moor posted:Bioware's characters aren't exactly realistic. They're cinematic personalities designed to make the player feel good and rarely, if ever, act against the protagonist or demonstrate initiative on their own. Origins might have been the one game where it seemed like Bioware made an actual deal about character sexuality and the greater world, but it's become increasingly strange to see certain relationships gated behind gender as their games have gone on. For example, compare Origins to Inquisition. One of these feels firmly rooted in typically conservative fantasy ideas of sex and gender (just look at what Sten says to a female Warden!) because it is all mired in medieval Europe norms, and one of these feels like it has become more modern in order to broaden representation. The Qunari, for example, feel like they're being recalibrated in every single Dragon Age release. FWIW this is kind of why the romances in Bioware games have always come off as bizarre and downright skeezy to me at times. You're taking something like sexuality and gamifying it so that there are rulesets for how you can get each character to like you, what dialogue choices to make so that they'll eventually wanna gently caress, the apex of your achievement being when they do actually say let's gently caress, and so on. Most of the romanceable characters rarely fight you back, or challenge your opinions, or refuse to sleep with the PC even if they do something totally opposed to what that character believes in. It's just a weird gamey delivery system for players to privately get their rocks off with alien spacebabes instead of trying to imagine how a romantic relationship might actually function in a responsive way. This is confirmed by posters who are really into Bioware romances here historically being really well-adjusted and totally not at all weirdly obsessive about their space waifus.
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Fangz posted:record scratch People have really dumb opinions about BG2, because they played it when they were 14.
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Mymla posted:People have really dumb opinions about BG2, because they played it when they were 14. I think a large part of it is also because BG2 is where a lot of Bioware's standard character archetypes got started - then refined in KOTOR. And personally, I think it is a shame when "bisexual" NPCs are just completely gender-neutral and never so much as refer to the PC with gendered pronouns. It's lazy writing, and inaccurate for many if not most bisexual people.
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Mymla posted:For alien characters I think it's super weird to have gender restricted romances. If you want to gently caress Garrus or Tali, you're a xenophile before you're gay or straight, and the same goes for them. Yeah but then you might have the implication that bisexuals are weird or alien. Like if Liam and Cora are the only straight LIs, someone is going to read that as "oh, you want to date someone of your gender? You're a loving weirdo so here, gently caress this weirdo," or "you like either gender? You're a weirdy just like this space cricket." marshmallow creep fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Feb 19, 2017 |
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I just hope that Dorian from Dragon Age Inquisition magically appears in ME and then I can romance him. In space.
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You should only be allowed to bang aliens. E: specifically non-humanoid aliens.
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The character kits for Sara and Scott got updated based on people's feedback: 
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Cythereal posted:interesting Kaidan
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Halloween Jack posted:pffft hahahahahahaha I did say "relatively." Much better than, say, Tali or Liara.
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