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For years my dad has called me to talk Raptors basketball and he always says something like "the Raps should just trade for a guy like Cousins". And I say, "Dad, you can't just trade a bunch of magic beans and garbage for one of the best big men in the league." I should have a kid one day so he get owned as hard as I did.
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This is a weird thing to wake up to. How could 28 other teams not put together a better package than that.
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Feb 20, 2017 10:45
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MalarkeyToboggan posted:This is a weird thing to wake up to. How could 28 other teams not put together a better package than that. Apparently some did but they really wanted Buddy.
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Feb 20, 2017 10:58
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Rick posted:Apparently some did but they really wanted Buddy. This is the first big payoff to all of dokmo's Buddy posts this year.
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Feb 20, 2017 11:02
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Feb 20, 2017 11:42
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Congrats to NOLA I guess. Boogie and The Brow is going to be awesome to watch.
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MalarkeyToboggan posted:This is a weird thing to wake up to. How could 28 other teams not put together a better package than that. I'm more astonished that instead of this being a focal point, garbage rear end AM sports talk is focused on them not retaining Jimmer Fredette.
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Feb 20, 2017 11:59
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Holy poo poo, I didn't realise Cousins has a whole other year on his deal, I thought he was a FA this summer. Jesus Christ why did no-one else offer anything meaningful for him? What are Boston and Portland playing at?
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My internet didn't work this morning, but now I am back online and what the gently caress just happened?! edit: https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/833542060691058693 Oh, ok! Jack's Flow fucked around with this message at 12:09 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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Feb 20, 2017 12:07
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Cavauro posted:buddey
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a nigga who smoke posted:I'm more astonished that instead of this being a focal point, garbage rear end AM sports talk is focused on them not retaining Jimmer Fredette. That's future Chinese Basketball Association MVP Jimmer Fredette mister.
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Feb 20, 2017 12:15
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Brother when you tell me I might be able to get a statue of a Mormon in China, I don't shy away. I ask for seconds.
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Feb 20, 2017 12:21
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yo Kibner this was a great weekend.
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Feb 20, 2017 12:23
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tarbrush posted:Holy poo poo, I didn't realise Cousins has a whole other year on his deal, I thought he was a FA this summer. Jesus Christ why did no-one else offer anything meaningful for him? What are Boston and Portland playing at? This was me until an hour ago. For some reason I thought cousins was expiring.
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Feb 20, 2017 13:09
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Hypothetically speaking, if the Kings had signed Boogie to the supermax, they could still have traded him for a basically comparable package, right? God the Kings are dumb
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Feb 20, 2017 13:28
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Check out Buddy when Buddy get up.
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Vivek is a disgrace
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This is such a bizarre thing to wake up to.
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Paul Zuvella posted:Check out Buddy when Buddy get up. He ain't even get up that far
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NickRoweFillea posted:He ain't even get up that far *buddy gets up, turns into Demarcus Cousins*
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tarbrush posted:Hypothetically speaking, if the Kings had signed Boogie to the supermax, they could still have traded him for a basically comparable package, right? Well, in theory, he'd be even more valuable since his prime was locked down. However, Cousins would get an automatic no-trade clause for one year after signing the deal. He also would be eligible for the full no-trade clause after that (since he would have been with the Kings at least 8+ seasons), but he'd have to negotiate that. So if they thought that they weren't going to get that extension signed without having to give up the no-trade clause, then this week was the last time they had decent leverage to trade him. They probably would've had significantly less leverage going into this offseason simply because historically teams have not done great the summer before a guy hits UFA (even though everyone but Dwight Howard has re-signed to the team they were traded to). Although, with all that said, they got a deal worse than teams get in situations where they theoretically have bad leverage (the Dwight Howard trade is probably worse if the Lakers end up being able to skip out on sending Orlando the 2019 pick, but other than that).
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Feb 20, 2017 13:51
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He'd have to sign a new contract to get a ntc, right? Dunno how much they changed in the new CBA. As much as this is great for the Pels, the rest of their roster is still a horror story of long bad contracts (with honorable exemptions for Jrue and Omri). Plus they have no picks left. How do they get better?
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tarbrush posted:He'd have to sign a new contract to get a ntc, right? Dunno how much they changed in the new CBA. I believe so. I suspect (because the CBA FAQ does not clarify) you have to qualify for it before you can negotiate it. It doesn't seem like guys have managed to tack it onto the end of their second NBA contract even if it runs into their eighth year in the league. So I don't think he would've had one next season without negotiating it through a regular extension or getting a year automatically with the super max. Rick fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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Feb 20, 2017 14:02
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New Orleans def going to have to really try and resign jrue at this point right.
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tarbrush posted:He'd have to sign a new contract to get a ntc, right? Dunno how much they changed in the new CBA. They have like 30 million a year tied up in E'Twaun Moore, Solomon Hill, and Asik for 3 more years, which isn't really a horror story, and then everyone else on the roster is getting like $5 million a year or less on shorter deals. And the only picks they gave up were for 2017. Jota fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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MalarkeyToboggan posted:Congrats to NOLA I guess. Boogie and The Brow is going to be awesome to watch. Yeah, this is exciting for the NBA. If I were a Pelicans fan (do those exist?) I wouldn't care about what happens next season (but it sure sounds like they're all-in on keeping Boogie). This is going to be a really exciting combo assuming they stay healthy.
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As for how the Pelicans get better, well, they have 20 million in cap space next year if the cap increase hits even some pessimistic projections. They have struggled to attract free agents but this certainly sweetens things a bit. Of course, this free agency class is heavily slanted towards vets who will be trying to get one last payday from the team they're on now. Gordon Hayword might be in play although I haven't thought if the new CBA makes that unlikely. So then it's Millsap and…????? Well, maybe they can put a call in to Chris Paul if the Clippers flame out again. That would be a nice story.
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euphronius posted:New Orleans def going to have to really try and resign jrue at this point right. We were already going to. Unless CP3 sees the situation and decides to hop ship or something. But that's very unlikely. tadashi posted:Yeah, this is exciting for the NBA. If I were a Pelicans fan (do those exist?) I wouldn't care about what happens next season (but it sure sounds like they're all-in on keeping Boogie). This is going to be a really exciting combo assuming they stay healthy. Kibner and I definitely exist. Kibner even goes to the games!
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Rick posted:As for how the Pelicans get better, well, they have 20 million in cap space next year if the cap increase hits even some pessimistic projections. They have struggled to attract free agents but this certainly sweetens things a bit. The cap is currently estimated to be around $103 million so with Boogie's contract and Jrue's cap hold it could end up being more like $10-12 million in cap space. Jota fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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Jota posted:The cap is currently estimated to be around $103 million so with Boogie's contract and Jrue's cap hold it could end up being more like $10-12 million in cap space. It's basically assumed we're stretching Asik, too, as awful as that's going to be. Still the best option since no one's going to trade for that joke of a contract. But cap space is cap space.
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WhyteRyce posted:Beans, thisdude, Cav, and larrydigital where are you in my time of need Sup. My condolences. 
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NickRoweFillea posted:He ain't even get up that far Do you have a script that replies this or..?
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The Kings have to be the worst team at evaluating talent in the league right now. This isn't a good trade but it's not the worst one in recent memory, see the Nets KG/Pierce trade.
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So Boogie isn't getting the super max anymore but will he get more money if he resigns with the Pelicans next season than if he goes somewhere else? I ask this because his agent was saying that Demarcus wouldn't sign with a team that traded for him. https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/833532438366154754
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MalarkeyToboggan posted:So Boogie isn't getting the super max anymore but will he get more money if he resigns with the Pelicans next season than if he goes somewhere else? Summer extension does not equal resign. Cousins is under contract next season, he has very little reason to sign an extension. NO will be able to offer him the biggest deal in Free Agency and the smart thing for Cousins to do is wait until then and not sign an extension, he'll likely make more money.
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MalarkeyToboggan posted:So Boogie isn't getting the super max anymore but will he get more money if he resigns with the Pelicans next season than if he goes somewhere else? Boogie is basically in the situation where he can choose the 5 year max with New Orleans or go somewhere else for the 4 year max. It depends on how much he values that extra year of guaranteed money, or how good the Pelicans are. All the Summer Extension thing means is he is leaving his options open to see what happens in 2018 before he decides where to sign. I imagine if the team turns out really, really good next year he'd take the combo of winning + making the most money. That's a big if, though.
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Two Tone Shoes posted:Boogie is basically in the situation where he can choose the 5 year max with New Orleans or go somewhere else for the 4 year max. It depends on how much he values that extra year of guaranteed money, or how good the Pelicans are. I imagine if the team turns out really, really good next year he'd take the combo of winning + making the most money. New Orleans can give him bigger yearly raises. It'll be an 8 figure difference even over just the 4 years.
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Gonz posted:Real Life Vlade Divac: Dumber than videogame Vlade Divac! dang yet another superteam like the Warriors, Spurs, Knicks and Bulls
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