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LordVorbis posted:Whats the best response to warden's top light shoulder bash combo? I play Nobushi and so far the only thing I've found is to dodge roll away and then spam back-Light to do the ranged poke to stop them closing. I feel like I need a better option as I can't get a light attack out quickly enough to stop it, and side-dodge doesn't seem to avoid it either. If you eat the side/top light attacks, don't panic. Try to do the back + light attack as soon as you get hit. If he tries to do the shoulder charge he's going to get hit. If he tries to cancel it into a GB he's going to get hit.
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Feb 20, 2017 14:29
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Zzulu posted:pray that he is bad and not good You and me both, brother. Every time I get matched against one in 4v4, I think "poo poo" cause if he's good, it'll take me ages to kill him and he'll most likely get backup. If he's bad, I thank Jesus for dying for my sins. Legit so little you can do against them, even feinting isn't that good because their overhead fast attack hits before you can cancel + light attack them.
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FAUXTON posted:I dunno, maybe the berserker? Fuckers whirl around like it ain't no thang. I really wanna see Roman gladiators if they ever do DLC factions. You could have Murmillo as your heavy, Retiarius or Hoplomachus as your Hybrid, Dimachaerus as your assassin, maybe Thraex as your vanguard. Would be rad.
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Feb 20, 2017 14:48
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I would kill for an Indian faction. Rajput badasses, guys like the great loving Gama with a club + wrestling. Now I'm making myself sad because it likely won't happen.
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Feb 20, 2017 14:59
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Tru is currently learning Warden. He is losing his poo poo how easymode and busted the class is.
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Feb 20, 2017 15:05
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Zzulu posted:Sometimes I like to just stand uncomfortably close to the duel to confuse both combatants I like to watch. And last hit.
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Feb 20, 2017 15:11
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Donnerberg posted:Pretty sure 50% of my chapter 3 playthrough was spent waiting for the origami slow stab to finish. I was tired and on my third try I was already fed up with that guy so I came up with a special....strategy for Thornfinn. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e593AQlv6pY
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Feb 20, 2017 15:24
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I'm interested to see what they come up with for the 6 season pass classes. I'm thinking weeb faction gets a ninja which all the orochis will flock to, and knights will get some kind of fencer.
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Feb 20, 2017 15:24
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There was a ninja in some of the concept art that internet deep lurkers caught, so yeah a ninja is all but guaranteed
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Feb 20, 2017 15:30
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Zzulu posted:There was a ninja in some of the concept art that internet deep lurkers caught, so yeah a ninja is all but guaranteed Can't wait for another class specialized in causing DoTs and running away to make the game more "fun".
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For real, Warden is the one champion that can beat me consistently. It's that really fast side swipe attack he does that's a total bitch to block as an Assassin, since we don't have permanent block. The overhead fast attack is a bitch too. Don't even get me started on the pizza cabo spam they're fond of. So as Assassin, I'm stumped, cause I can either keep guarding for the side swipe and leave myself open to the overhead, or vice versa. I hate fighting Wardens with a passion.
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Kilometers Davis posted:I would kill for an Indian faction. Rajput badasses, guys like the great loving Gama with a club + wrestling. Now I'm making myself sad because it likely won't happen. Speaking of. Let's get some native Americans in the mix. They fought both Leif Erikson and Cortez. That's way better than the samurai that probably never ran into vikings, maybe not even knights either for all I know. Garrand posted:I was tired and on my third try I was already fed up with that guy so I came up with a special....strategy for Thornfinn. That's a beautiful sequence break. Could you complete the mission?
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Garrand posted:I was tired and on my third try I was already fed up with that guy so I came up with a special....strategy for Thornfinn. This is optimal Lawbringer play.
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Donnerberg posted:Speaking of. Let's get some native Americans in the mix. They fought both Leif Erikson and Cortez. That's way better than the samurai that probably never ran into vikings, maybe not even knights either for all I know. Yes, there is a path onward from there so I just went on my merry way.
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Feb 20, 2017 15:38
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I just found out that Crushing Counter (Warden top light) isn't actually a parry. It's a top light attack with superior block that's so fast it usually interrupts whatever it's "countering." Functionally it's pretty close to parry, but are there unblockable attacks that are fast enough to interrupt it? Most unblockables are so slow. Or am I way off base with how it works? I wish I could test it because it seems like Shugoki's charged top heavy unblockable would still hit as long as Shug has superarmor.
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Feb 20, 2017 15:42
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Zzulu posted:There was a ninja in some of the concept art that internet deep lurkers caught, so yeah a ninja is all but guaranteed That's a safe bet because Orochi is already in the game :V Weapon wise, they're missing a dual wielding or just short sword user though in terms of popularized while also realistic.
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Feb 20, 2017 15:45
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We got the knight with the halberd, but surely there were knights with regular axes as well right? Warhammers were a thing too I want a warhammer
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Feb 20, 2017 15:46
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Haroshia posted:Can't wait for another class specialized in causing DoTs and running away to make the game more "fun". Dots shouldn't be able to finish you off. That should be loving baseline. Drain you to 1 hp fine, but at least make them land the finishing blow. I cheese it all the time and I feel bad for it 
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Feb 20, 2017 15:48
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There should be a class wielding two torches who just set people on fire
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Trillhouse posted:I just found out that Crushing Counter (Warden top light) isn't actually a parry. It's a top light attack with superior block that's so fast it usually interrupts whatever it's "countering." Functionally it's pretty close to parry, but are there unblockable attacks that are fast enough to interrupt it? Most unblockables are so slow. Or am I way off base with how it works? Iirc shug should be able to hit yes. I seem to recall that Warlord cant use his light attack with superior block to counter unblockables, but he can parry them like everyone else.
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Feb 20, 2017 15:53
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Nasgate posted:Iirc shug should be able to hit yes. I seem to recall that Warlord cant use his light attack with superior block to counter unblockables, but he can parry them like everyone else. It doesn't even activate against Unblockables? Now I'm tempted to spam unblockable top attacks and hope they think they're timing is off.
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Feb 20, 2017 15:56
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signalnoise posted:I'm interested to see what they come up with for the 6 season pass classes. I'm thinking weeb faction gets a ninja which all the orochis will flock to, and knights will get some kind of fencer. Some manner of Saracen would be nice, They at least appreciate a good curve.
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Zzulu posted:We got the knight with the halberd, but surely there were knights with regular axes as well right? Warhammers were a thing too Technically it's a Pole Axe. Warhammers were a thing yes, though imo a warpick would be much more rad. Though it's likely we get another sword size, hopefully a bigass greatsword or a dueling sword of some kind. Knights were kind of all about being well armed, so hand axes are unlikely.
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Trillhouse posted:I just found out that Crushing Counter (Warden top light) isn't actually a parry. It's a top light attack with superior block that's so fast it usually interrupts whatever it's "countering." Functionally it's pretty close to parry, but are there unblockable attacks that are fast enough to interrupt it? Most unblockables are so slow. Or am I way off base with how it works? I've managed to get hits on him with Orochi's zone attack, but it's not enough to interrupt him. My memory might be tricking me, but I may have gotten one or two interrupts against his top light, though that could be cause we both initiated at the same time and mine hit just before his super armour clocked on.
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Am I going to be made to feel bad about enjoying Warden because I can play other classes but he's my favourite 
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Kilometers Davis posted:I would kill for an Indian faction. Rajput badasses, guys like the great loving Gama with a club + wrestling. Now I'm making myself sad because it likely won't happen. Holy poo poo, let's get some battle Sikhs in here e: No one ever talks about Conquerors in this thread. I just started playing one in some dominion vs AI and I'm really liking the defense and heavy hitting aspect. Ashrik fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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Songbearer posted:Am I going to be made to feel bad about enjoying Warden because I can play other classes but he's my favourite If someone gets salty just drink their tears Songbearer. Warden is awesome, don't let anybody bring you down.
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There will be a fencing/rapier class for sure for the Knights. Maybe another heavy dude like the Shugoki? Since Lawbringer doesn't seem to fit into that category...
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Songbearer posted:Am I going to be made to feel bad about enjoying Warden because I can play other classes but he's my favourite Just play whomever you want. Who cares what other people say? You could spam Raider's zone attack all match and bads would whine about it. Everyone rages at everything in this game. If it's not Warden then it's Nobushi's bullshit range or Orachi's speed or Warlords headbutt or Shugoki's demon embrace etc. You could just stop yourself from using the charge combo if you don't want to feel like you're abusing imbalance.
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I'd rather we saw a fourth faction that allowed more 'what if?' scenarios, who cares if it's in the time window, it's already been tossed out. Give me Picts vs. Conquistadors. Give me Atlatl vs. Wudang Sword. Go wild.
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Pruney posted:I'd be more interested in a fourth faction too than more characters Incidentally, I said that knowing almost certainly we won't get it - It'd mean re-engineering the world map architecture, which they won't be arsed to do when comparatively it's 'easy' to add a 5th class to each of the existing factions. E: Re-post - So, what's the best guaranteed follow-up to a Shugoki Parry?
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I want the ninja to use a goddamn kusarigama. Nioh got me loving that weapon.
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signalnoise posted:I want the ninja to use a goddamn kusarigama. Nioh got me loving that weapon. I already hate fighting this character now
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Shockeh posted:E: Re-post - So, what's the best guaranteed follow-up to a Shugoki Parry? I think the only guaranteed combo is guardbreak into golf swing. Unless it's one of those classes that ends up too far away after the parry (nobushi does on most attacks maybe) .
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Samurai need an axe user to be considered a full faction imo. Though one of the many other tool turned weapon would be an acceptable replacement. Iron smoking pipe would own. Also after some cursory looks, vikings had single edged swords(sabres) and halberds are mentioned in the eddas but theres no evidence of them at archeological sites.
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How about a courtesan with one of those iron fans
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Pruney posted:I'd be more interested in a fourth faction too than more characters Wouldn't it be easier and allow more diversity to just create characters of varioud cultures and align them with existing factions than to try to create full new factions? IE oh the Not Aztecs have aligned with the Vikings and the Not Romans with the Knights.
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This is a little encouraging (allthough context, those games aren't really hard hitters either) http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-02-20-for-honor-outmuscles-sniper-elite-4-to-top-uk-chart That being said, remains to be seen if new players are willing to learn to play, game has a bit of a learning curve. It does give me some hope that Ubisoft will keep supporting the game. I wonder how plausible a UI/matchmaking overhaul would be though? I can kinda see matchmaking happening because it's important, but UI is kind of unheard of? Tired of hitting spacebar and going through menus. The entire concept of matchmaking in this game is just weird. Then there are interesting details like MMR not being tied to your hero in any way (obviously because you only choose once you've been matched), which is kinda lovely for learning new classes which in turn hurts your MMR. (Which in turn can be kinda important for playing with friends...)
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