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Pissflaps: Oct 20, 2002; by VideoGames

I don't think your anger is unreasonable.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 17:28

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Doctor_Fruitbat: Jun 2, 2013

goddamnedtwisto posted:

This makes me unreasonably angry, and you see it on basically any large housing development in London. No mention of what an interesting place it is to live, whether there's nice views, local shops, or even a picture of the loving develoopment. The fact it's almost directly opposite the Freedom Press and on the site of the first skirmishes of the Battle of Cable Street makes it feel like I'm being teabagged though.

My favourite is online where properties are marked as being for investors only. I hope their investment burns down just as they exchange contracts.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 17:33

a pipe smoking dog: Jan 25, 2010; "haha, dogs can't smoke!"

JFairfax posted:

I think the PLP did itself a mischief trying to take down Corbyn repeatedly instead of getting behind him.

The PLP did itself a mischief by trying to take down Corbyn in the summer, putting up a complete non-entity, and losing so they were barred from challenging him six months later when he imploded and stopped being popular.

Corbyn is bad, the rest of the party is bad, deselect everyone and start again from scratch.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 17:39

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

goddamnedtwisto posted:

No mention of what an interesting place it is to live, whether there's nice views, local shops, or even a picture of the loving develoopment.

Why would they want to mention that when the person* buying it will probably never even set foot in it?

*Or corporation sole, fictitious tax evasion entity, foreign Crown, fishman, or other pseudoperson.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 17:43

learnincurve: May 15, 2014; Smoosh

The perfect solution to the housing crisis is to make it law that all rented houses are managed by the local council. Private landlords can already do this in some areas and their houses show up on the list along with housing association and council houses. It's a fib that you have to earn under a certain amount to get one or be in receipt of housing benefit, you can also have as much savings as you like, the single thing they give a poo poo about is if you can afford the rent. If you are a drug addict or have ASBO then they offer you a flat well away from normal people.

The council will take care of everything from filling the house to maintenance - much much cheaper than anyone else. The downside for some landlords is that the council actually does maintenance, and safety checks, and makes sure tenants have a proper tenancy and whatnot. Release funds to the local councils to buy the houses landlords no longer want because they won't pass inspection.

As if by magic the council's stock will dramatically increase and it won't effect the middle classes that the government is so scared of offending because they will be smaller inner city poor people's houses. Poor people that no longer have to worry about damp, the boiler exploding, or being kicked out because they lost their job. The people effected by this will be that one lovely estate agents in your town who owns half of it.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 18:04

Renaissance Robot: Oct 10, 2010; Bite my furry metal ass

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

I hope their investment burns down just as they exchange contracts.

Be the change you want to see in the world.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 18:08

serious gaylord: Sep 16, 2007; what.

learnincurve posted:

The perfect solution to the housing crisis is to make it law that all rented houses are managed by the local council. Private landlords can already do this in some areas and their houses show up on the list along with housing association and council houses. It's a fib that you have to earn under a certain amount to get one or be in receipt of housing benefit, you can also have as much savings as you like, the single thing they give a poo poo about is if you can afford the rent. If you are a drug addict or have ASBO then they offer you a flat well away from normal people.

The council will take care of everything from filling the house to maintenance - much much cheaper than anyone else. The downside for some landlords is that the council actually does maintenance, and safety checks, and makes sure tenants have a proper tenancy and whatnot. Release funds to the local councils to buy the houses landlords no longer want because they won't pass inspection.

As if by magic the council's stock will dramatically increase and it won't effect the middle classes that the government is so scared of offending because they will be smaller inner city poor people's houses. Poor people that no longer have to worry about damp, the boiler exploding, or being kicked out because they lost their job. The people effected by this will be that one lovely estate agents in your town who owns half of it.

If you want to make yourself angry look up Dave Wells and what he's done to the poor and vulnerable people in Bournemouth.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 18:09

learnincurve: May 15, 2014; Smoosh

There is that one couple in South Wales that own most of it, he is the most stereotypical gold chain gold Bentley driving motherfucker you will ever see, right now to the enormous modern tacky gold plated gated house. She is every doctors receptionist that has ever made you tell her exactly what your medical complaint is in a packed waiting room.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 18:14

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

I wish the council would get my replacement wheelie bins delivered they were supposed to arrive today and its getting ridiculous

# ? Feb 20, 2017 18:17

Pissflaps: Oct 20, 2002; by VideoGames

Jose posted:

I wish the council would get my replacement wheelie bins delivered they were supposed to arrive today and its getting ridiculous

-Outraged of Fenham

# ? Feb 20, 2017 18:18

winegums: Dec 21, 2012

Regarde Aduck posted:

Is that his fault or Labours for being so ill defined? Are they left? Centre left? Centre centre? Some seemingly want to be centre right. Blaism was basically not on the political spectrum and seemed made up as they went. They believed in the NHS but also in big business that got them a lot of votes but also started the rot. So now we have Blair back telling people to abandon Brexit which was a good thing he did. But he did it by pointing out that Brexit won't stop the 'scary' immigrants, the non white ones. This sums up modern Labour.

Saying "Leaving the EU won't do what you think it will do" is a good place to start. Screaming "stop being racists" has achieved gently caress all so far. The relationship between racism, education, poverty (+/- the recession) is a complex one that isn't going to be cut through by making people feel like they're being told what to do.

If you want people to agree that leaving is a bad idea you need them on side. You can do this by sympathising with them - "you were lied to, you voted in your best interests but it was based on bad information. Now that this has become apparent how would you feel about reviewing the decision we made as a country?"

# ? Feb 20, 2017 18:19

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

learnincurve posted:

The perfect solution to the housing crisis is to make it law that all rented houses are managed by the local council. Private landlords can already do this in some areas and their houses show up on the list along with housing association and council houses. It's a fib that you have to earn under a certain amount to get one or be in receipt of housing benefit, you can also have as much savings as you like, the single thing they give a poo poo about is if you can afford the rent. If you are a drug addict or have ASBO then they offer you a flat well away from normal people.

The council will take care of everything from filling the house to maintenance - much much cheaper than anyone else. The downside for some landlords is that the council actually does maintenance, and safety checks, and makes sure tenants have a proper tenancy and whatnot. Release funds to the local councils to buy the houses landlords no longer want because they won't pass inspection.

As if by magic the council's stock will dramatically increase and it won't effect the middle classes that the government is so scared of offending because they will be smaller inner city poor people's houses. Poor people that no longer have to worry about damp, the boiler exploding, or being kicked out because they lost their job. The people effected by this will be that one lovely estate agents in your town who owns half of it.

Great in theory, but Leeds city council for example is already having to pay out millions a year in compensation to poor people whose housing it manages really fuckin badly.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 18:20

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

a pipe smoking dog posted:

The PLP did itself a mischief by trying to take down Corbyn in the summer, putting up a complete non-entity, and losing so they were barred from challenging him six months later when he imploded and stopped being popular.

Right they maybe could have forced a general election if they had stood behind Corbyn and torn into the government that was completely falling to bits while Tory leadership candidates were dropping out all over the place and nobody had any idea what to do.

But hey ho we're at where we're at.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 18:22

Gort: Aug 18, 2003; Good day what ho cup of tea

Turns out attacking your own party leader before he's even done anything is not a winning move. But whatever it takes to keep socialism down.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 18:28

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jBrereton posted:

Great in theory, but Leeds city council for example is already having to pay out millions a year in compensation to poor people whose housing it manages really fuckin badly.

Still easier to get a slice of that money than if you have a regular old lovely small-time landlord.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 18:38

Pissflaps: Oct 20, 2002; by VideoGames

Gort posted:

Turns out attacking your own party leader before he's even done anything is not a winning move. But whatever it takes to keep socialism down.

Turns outs nobody likes or rates Corbyn regardless of whether MPs are 'attacking' or not?

# ? Feb 20, 2017 18:38

Fatty: Sep 13, 2004; Not really fat

On the subject of the housing crisis, have you guys seen the goon with a second London house for his wifes hoard?

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3809188&userid=107498#post469509101

# ? Feb 20, 2017 18:41

Fangz: Jul 5, 2007; Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!

Paxman posted:

The abstains were votes they were whipped to abstain on. Eg SNP amendments which said things Labour didn't exactly disagree with but came from the SNP and therefore must be bad in some way.

For example, NC 143 required the Chancellor to publish "an assessment of the financial liability of the UK towards the EU following the United Kingdom�s withdrawal from the EuropeanUnion, and" to make "a statement to the House of Commons on the economic impact of the United Kingdom leaving the single market.�

Labour also abstained on the programme motion, ie the vote to say the debate on the amendments (Committee stage) was limited to just three days. Not sure why they did that.

That seems rather childish and incompetent from them then, especially given how some of Labour's amendments ended up not having enough time to be discussed.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 19:02

LemonDrizzle: Mar 28, 2012; neoliberal shithead

Re: today's ICM poll with Labour 18 points behind the Tories

https://twitter.com/MattSingh_/status/833693598487085056

# ? Feb 20, 2017 19:35

Pissflaps: Oct 20, 2002; by VideoGames

https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/833752558107758592

I wonder what he said to them?

# ? Feb 20, 2017 20:01

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

Looking forward to someone telling us that "it's fine, polls don't matter".

# ? Feb 20, 2017 20:07

Pissflaps: Oct 20, 2002; by VideoGames

We're beyond that now. We've decided that elections don't matter.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 20:10

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

The anarchist in me can get behind that, but only if it's accompanied with direct action

# ? Feb 20, 2017 20:16

jabby: Oct 27, 2010

gently caress me this is tiresome. Every time a new poll comes out we have another bout of whinging with zero interesting or constructive content.

Pissflaps posted:

https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/833752558107758592

I wonder what he said to them?

Guess the PLP have gotten fed up of the whole 'not briefing against Corbyn' thing.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 20:18

serious gaylord: Sep 16, 2007; what.

forkboy84 posted:

Looking forward to someone telling us that "it's fine, polls don't matter".

It only took 3 posts.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 20:22

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

LemonDrizzle posted:

Re: today's ICM poll with Labour 18 points behind the Tories

https://twitter.com/MattSingh_/status/833693598487085056

when do the new boundary changes come in? not really a surprise that the south would end up massively pro tory after them but gently caress. loving southerners

# ? Feb 20, 2017 20:29

LemonDrizzle: Mar 28, 2012; neoliberal shithead

jabby posted:

gently caress me this is tiresome. Every time a new poll comes out we have another bout of whinging with zero interesting or constructive content.

I think you're confusing "uninteresting" with "things I personally find unpleasant to think about." The prospect of a major party being erased at the parliamentary level across multiple regions of its country is unequivocally interesting if you're someone who finds electoral politics in general interesting in any way, even if you'd prefer not to contemplate it as a supporter of that party.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 20:39

Pochoclo: Feb 4, 2008; No...; Clapping Larry

Fatty posted:

On the subject of the housing crisis, have you guys seen the goon with a second London house for his wifes hoard?

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3809188&userid=107498#post469509101

I was about to have an aneurysm, but then I remembered that the russian oil-lords are like ten billion times worse, and my head exploded like that scene in Scanners.

Also, what's the deal with the Lords trying to ping-pong amendments back? I'm unfamiliar with how much power they have, if any - any chance the EU citizen rights amendment sticks?

# ? Feb 20, 2017 20:39

LemonDrizzle: Mar 28, 2012; neoliberal shithead

Pochoclo posted:

Also, what's the deal with the Lords trying to ping-pong amendments back? I'm unfamiliar with how much power they have, if any - any chance the EU citizen rights amendment sticks?

It's conceivable - the most contentious provisions of the 2015 welfare bill were killed after the Labour and Lib Dem Lords kicked it back to the Commons saying "not good enough, try again." However, I doubt that the Tories will concede on passing the article 50 bill without amendment, and if the government chooses to make a fight of things with the Lords, the government wins.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 20:42

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Jose posted:

I wish the council would get my replacement wheelie bins delivered they were supposed to arrive today and its getting ridiculous

My council having switched to fortnightly collections is now considering switching to monthly. They also just closed down the big recycling centre in the town itself so I guess I should look forward to fly tipping making a comeback in a big way.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 21:03

jabby: Oct 27, 2010

LemonDrizzle posted:

I think you're confusing "uninteresting" with "things I personally find unpleasant to think about." The prospect of a major party being erased at the parliamentary level across multiple regions of its country is unequivocally interesting if you're someone who finds electoral politics in general interesting in any way, even if you'd prefer not to contemplate it as a supporter of that party.

Considering that Labour being 'erased' would lead to exactly what we have now, a Tory majority with a Labour opposition, I don't find it all that interesting. A loss is a loss in our system, the magnitude doesn't affect all that much in terms of policy.

Plus I don't actually mind the polls, it's more the follow up posts from the same handful of characters saying exactly the same things every time, as if an opinion poll will be what makes Corbyn supporters give up on the whole 'socialism' thing and finally embrace the Way of Blair.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 21:26

hakimashou: Jul 15, 2002; Upset Trowel

jabby posted:

I don't think anyone expects Corbyn to resign regardless of the results of these by-elections. The Tories might indeed want Corbyn to continue as leader (although I doubt it) but it's a bit fanciful to imagine they are playing some puppet master game with Stoke when he isn't going anywhere regardless.

If the government is indeed leaking this stuff about Nuttall it's probably because an awful lot of their poll boost came from UKIPs serious decline and it benefits them directly to try and destroy them as a party and subsume their voters.

Why would you doubt the Tories prefer Dear Leader running the labour party?

# ? Feb 20, 2017 21:28

jabby: Oct 27, 2010

hakimashou posted:

Why would you doubt the Tories prefer Dear Leader running the labour party?

There's a reason Thatcher referred to Tony Blair as her greatest achievement, and it isn't because he was easy for the Tories to beat.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 21:32

TomViolence: Feb 19, 2013; PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

British politics is now more than ever feeling like a loving time warp. Endless, recursive, grinding tedium with no end in sight. Bring back 2016 I say, while it may have been an absolute oval office of a year it was at least interesting from beginning to end.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 21:38

hakimashou: Jul 15, 2002; Upset Trowel

jabby posted:

There's a reason Thatcher referred to Tony Blair as her greatest achievement, and it isn't because he was easy for the Tories to beat.

By the same logic, wouldn't she like Corbyn though? Since he's continual living proof that Britain does not want far-left politics? Isn't his vast unpopularity and the harm he's doing to Labour further vindication for Thatcher?

# ? Feb 20, 2017 21:39

Pissflaps: Oct 20, 2002; by VideoGames

jabby posted:

Considering that Labour being 'erased' would lead to exactly what we have now, a Tory majority with a Labour opposition, I don't find it all that interesting. A loss is a loss in our system, the magnitude doesn't affect all that much in terms of policy.

This is nuts. Look at labour in Scotland tell me it doesn't matter with a straight face.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 21:39

jabby: Oct 27, 2010

hakimashou posted:

By the same logic, wouldn't she like Corbyn though? Since he's continual living proof that Britain does not want far-left politics? Isn't his vast unpopularity and the harm he's doing to Labour further vindication for Thatcher?

I think you're confusing the same logic with the exact opposite logic.

Pissflaps posted:

This is nuts. Look at labour in Scotland tell me it doesn't matter with a straight face.

Who controls the devolved power in Scotland matters in Scotland. Give me an example of a policy difference it has made in Westminster.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 21:42

Gort: Aug 18, 2003; Good day what ho cup of tea

hakimashou posted:

By the same logic, wouldn't she like Corbyn though? Since he's continual living proof that Britain does not want far-left politics? Isn't his vast unpopularity and the harm he's doing to Labour further vindication for Thatcher?

More like continual proof that Rupert Murdoch does not want anything but far-right politics

# ? Feb 20, 2017 22:02

Spangly A: May 14, 2009; God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

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hakimashou posted:

By the same logic, wouldn't she like Corbyn though? Since he's continual living proof that Britain does not want far-left politics? Isn't his vast unpopularity and the harm he's doing to Labour further vindication for Thatcher?

the second thatcherism does anything good for anyone but the rich she'd be vindicated, and that will never happen. It doesn't really matter if Britain doesn't want far left politics right now. It's like saying the popularity of creationism disproves all science.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 22:02

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# ? May 10, 2024 09:46

Seaside Loafer: Feb 7, 2012; Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

Just in the off chance there are any of you around Colchester who fits this bill this a real life thing I persuaded my boss to do. The below is a copy and paste of something i just posted on an Essex university forum and yes I know on reading it back it does come off as loving condescending but my heart was in the right place and im not a writer so give me a break.

And if you can think of anywhere else I can put that much appreciated.

quote:

Hi i'm a senior programmer/systems analyst/developer/dogsbody for a company just outside of Colchester which specialises in vehicle finance but for some reason also owns a bunch of children's play centres across the UK.

We would be very interested in getting a first or 2nd year computer science (or related) student to come and do some real life work. Its a great chance to actually get some work experience so when you go out into the real world you don't have that horrible problem of 'i cant get any experience because I don't have any experience' which I remember very well from my early career. I have a bunch of actual valuable work for you to do which we don't have the manpower for.

I'm especially interested in strong web-developers, I'm more of a back-end systems developer so I can just about get by with websites etc, but lets be honest I'm not terribly good at it

I will need you to actually know how to program, properly, I'll ask you provide a pseudocode solution to a basic problem in the live interview. If you understood that last sentence you will probably pass the test!

I'm relatively sure I can get my boss to actually pay you if you get the gig, so this isn't some unpaid slave labour deal, but I suspect it will not be much, just bear that in mind.

If interested please reply in this thread or say hi on skype on pauldevbrighton.

Regards,

Paul.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 22:03

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