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Raxivace posted:I hope the new season is like 70% James riding into new towns each episode on his motorcycle, going through stock noir plotlines. This would be fine with Lynch directing.
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If James gets a trouble of the week subplot every episode I'd be ok with that
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This weekend I watched the final episode and FWWM in a double feature, and then was sad. But today I had a baguette with butter and brie on it, and it was delicious.
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cptn_dr posted:But today I had a baguette with butter and brie on it, and it was delicious. Should have had pie and coffee.
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Feb 13, 2017 18:26
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If only...   From: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIz9mg-hEPg
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Just finished this today for the first time. It's been on my bucket list for a while ever since I saw a LP of Deadly Premonition, loved it, and heard it was basically a Twin Peaks clone. I'd say that S1 + the first 1/3 of S2 up until Laura's killer is revealed probably falls into my top 5 shows - definitely top 10. I had heard that a lot of S2 wasn't great, which I kind of regret reading, because it made me go in with a semi-negative mindset. S2 is actually pretty drat good, my (and I think most people's) only personal gripe is the subplots. They were extremely prevalent in the second-third of S2 and I really had a hard time caring about any of them (aside from a couple moments). I didn't want to outright skip them, but there was a large amount of time when a subplot would come up and I'd just tab out, keeping the audio in the background in case I heard anything interesting or funny. As far as the last third of S2 goes (heavy spoilers): I was extremely pleased to see Coop get back into the FBI and ditch that awful flannelwear. I'm extremely glad the stupid subplots were dealt with in short order. The series finale was the kind of the "what in the actual gently caress is going on" that I expected, but I personally prefer cleaner resolutions than what we got. Having Bob take over Cooper just felt kind of cheap to me - as if they were leaving it open-ended in case they were able to pick up a 3rd season (I have no idea if that was the actual intention or not). I loved it from the first episode, but this scene is what cemented it for me: https://gfycat.com/FamousFreeBangeltiger That loving eye contact. edit: I feel like the color grading changed at some point too. I remember early in S1, there was a scene near the gas station that looked completely drab, as if a storm were approaching. But the camera panned to the sky and you could see that it was a clear and beautiful day. I don't recall seeing much of that in S2; it seemed to be much more vibrant, which completely changes the tone of the show. -Inu- fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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Feb 20, 2017 11:49
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Windom Earle sucked and he's the main plotline of the second season.
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Feb 20, 2017 11:56
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Great post, Inu, I agree with basically all of it. And yeah I despise Windom Earle. loving terrible character.
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Feb 20, 2017 11:58
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EmmyOk posted:Windom Earle sucked and he's the main plotline of the second season.
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Feb 20, 2017 16:12
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JazzFlight posted:It was like they wanted to add someone like the Riddler or the Joker to the show. What, are we turning Agent Cooper into Batman now? Blech.
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EmmyOk posted:Windom Earle sucked and he's the main plotline of the second season. The problem was that he acted nothing like the genuinely terrifying madman they showed on that video. Once he showed up in town he acted more like an Adam West Batman villain. The video they showed of him talking about the lodges was genuinely unsettling.
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Seriously though, what a perfect moment. I just re-watched the show in preparation for the new season and this part stuck out to me. (how did no one crack?) It's just so Coop.
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-Inu- posted:Just finished this today for the first time. It's been on my bucket list for a while ever since I saw a LP of Deadly Premonition, loved it, and heard it was basically a Twin Peaks clone. I just got to Windom Earle's teser introduction at the end of episode....13 in season 2. I'm glad I'm not the only one who just does not give a flying gently caress about 90% of the townies and their stupid, seemingly unrelated problems. I know that Lynch loves this poo poo, but besides Andy and the secretary, I just do not care about High School Student X and their complicated relationship with Character Y.
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notthegoatseguy posted:I just got to Windom Earle's teser introduction at the end of episode....13 in season 2. I'm glad I'm not the only one who just does not give a flying gently caress about 90% of the townies and their stupid, seemingly unrelated problems. I know that Lynch loves this poo poo, but besides Andy and the secretary, I just do not care about High School Student X and their complicated relationship with Character Y. What people often fail to realize about Twin Peaks is that while Lynch definitely set out to integrate a lot of his usual style into it, there's also a subversion of his own style in order to parody or criticize soap operas and the American idea of an idyllic small town. Some disorganized thoughts:
I have more thoughts but that's probably enough to get a discussion going if people care to.
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I actually watched Mulholland Drive based on the talk of it in this thread (and it being mentioned in the Legion thread) and loved it. I think to some extent, Lynch having to narrow it down to a feature film kind of trims the fat and still allows him to explore characters and their backstory even if it doesn't tie into the overall plot (and yeah, that isn't exactly the case with MD, but I'll leave that for another thread). But I also think Mulholland Drive is just a near perfect film. You have really strong performances from the entire cast, even for minor characters. I don't know if I can say the same thing about Twin Peaks because outside of Coop and the Sheriff's office, and the other feds that I've seen so far with still about 6 or so episodes to go, I just don't think the performances are that strong. And hell, that might be intentional because there's tons of soap operas that have loving horrible acting performances. But for now it still bothers me, especially when McLaughlin steals every scene he is in. Maybe that's what is bothering me more than the actual plots, and maybe if I sat down and actually watched Twin Peaks in a few sittings rather than spreading it out over the last 3 months or so, I'd be able to remember and care about these plots. I actually plan on watching the film after finishing the series because it seems to have a lot of what I like about a Lynch film. I know it was panned when it came out, but the Palmer stuff was the strongest plot to me so far in the series, and I'm looking forward to learning more because I don't think I've gotten to know a lot about Laura because as you say, almost everything we learn about her is coming from other characters.
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notthegoatseguy posted:
It was panned by people who didn't understand it. It actually got quite a lot of acclaim from people like advocates for rape victims as being a powerful representation of the feelings and experiences of a victim of sexual abuse.
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I was under the impression that after the first few episodes of S2, Lynch was absent from the show working on a movie. Then he came back for the last episode or two and was heavily annoyed by the poo poo Frost and fam pulled such as putting Coop in flannel, and creating all of the dumb subplots. Hence why all of those subplots died a swift death - because Lynch came back to finish off the show and wanted nothing to do with that poo poo.
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-Inu- posted:I was under the impression that after the first few episodes of S2, Lynch was absent from the show working on a movie. Then he came back for the last episode or two and was heavily annoyed by the poo poo Frost and fam pulled such as putting Coop in flannel, and creating all of the dumb subplots. Hence why all of those subplots died a swift death - because Lynch came back to finish off the show and wanted nothing to do with that poo poo. S1 and early S2 are just as riddled with goofy soap opera subplots. That they were slightly more tightly written is irrelevant when the post I was responding to basically wanted all the drama-y subplots excised from the show.
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Feb 20, 2017 18:39
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:S1 and early S2 are just as riddled with goofy soap opera subplots. That they were slightly more tightly written is irrelevant when the post I was responding to basically wanted all the drama-y subplots excised from the show. Yeah the problem isn't that the goofy stuff exist, it's that those elements basically took over the show for a while, and it really didn't help that what was supposed to be the more serious thread, the Windham Earl story, was so poorly done.
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"Windom Earle has a mind like a diamond; cold, hard, and brilliant" sicccccck can't wait to meet this dark reflection of Cooper. *hard cut to man in his pyjamas dancing around the woods making a papier maché chess piece"
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Feb 20, 2017 19:13
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Windom Earle kidnapped someone by dressing up as a horse. He also killed Ted Raimi and dressed his body up as a giant chess piece. I don't think he was ever supposed to be that serious.
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Feb 20, 2017 19:14
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The Windom Earle that was hinted at and the one that showed up are poles apart and the one that showed up was shithouse.
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Feb 20, 2017 19:16
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EmmyOk posted:"Windom Earle has a mind like a diamond; cold, hard, and brilliant" If you're confused, he's already won. 
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Feb 20, 2017 20:03
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Windom Earle is a big time clown dipshit and he can go to hell.
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I love Earle's horse scene and make no apologies.
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Feb 20, 2017 21:00
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A True Jar Jar Fan posted:I love Earle's horse scene and make no apologies. Yeah, that is one of the highlights of the show for me, too. Windom Earle's demise is also one of my favourite parts of the final episode.
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A True Jar Jar Fan posted:I love Earle's horse scene and make no apologies. And More posted:Yeah, that is one of the highlights of the show for me, too. Windom Earle's demise is also one of my favourite parts of the final episode. Earle's death is so good just because of how dumb he was in earlier episodes. egon_beeblebrox fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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Feb 20, 2017 23:56
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Will Lynch disturb us with something that rivals Maddie's final scene? Twenty-five loving years later and it's still hard to watch.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:S1 and early S2 are just as riddled with goofy soap opera subplots. That they were slightly more tightly written is irrelevant when the post I was responding to basically wanted all the drama-y subplots excised from the show.
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Feb 21, 2017 10:56
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Lynch's intent was to literally leave Laura's death unsolved and bring all the soap opera stuff to the forefront with the investigation as a catalyst for extreme behavior, but s2 really suffers from his lack of involvement.
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Mister Kingdom posted:Will Lynch disturb us with something that rivals Maddie's final scene? I hope so. I can't believe that made it onto TV in the early 90's.
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Every couple of days I remember that we're getting eighteen full episodes of 'co-writren, directed and edited by David Lynch' and I couldn't be more excited. It's going to be insane.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Lynch's intent was to literally leave Laura's death unsolved and bring all the soap opera stuff to the forefront with the investigation as a catalyst for extreme behavior, but s2 really suffers from his lack of involvement. I'm glad this didn't happen because the reveal and the events surrounding it are perfect and Fire Walk With Me is fantastic.
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I've always wondered if that quote or whatever about Lynch's intent didn't mean that Lynch just didn't want the murder solved in season 2. It would be odd to do such a 180 from that position to making a movie like FWWM.
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cis autodrag posted:The problem was that he acted nothing like the genuinely terrifying madman they showed on that video. Once he showed up in town he acted more like an Adam West Batman villain. The video they showed of him talking about the lodges was genuinely unsettling. His only actual appearances should have been that video and when he pretended to be a friend of Donna's father. He's scary if you spend no time at all watching him cavort around a shack like a demented satyr auditioning for 60s Batman and just hear about him and see the bodies.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:His only actual appearances should have been that video and when he pretended to be a friend of Donna's father. He's scary if you spend no time at all watching him cavort around a shack like a demented satyr auditioning for 60s Batman and just hear about him and see the bodies. OK I don't hate Windom Earle as much as everyone else apparently does, but this is emphatically true.
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What is the video people are referring to? The only time I think I've seen him was at the very end of episode 13 in season 2. Did he make an appearance before then?
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notthegoatseguy posted:What is the video people are referring to? The only time I think I've seen him was at the very end of episode 13 in season 2. Did he make an appearance before then? There's a scene near the end of the series where Cooper and Truman are watching a video from Earle's days in the Bureau and on Project Bluebook, talking about the Lodges. Finished the series, have yet to watch the movie. My wife wants to watch it during the day so it won't give her nightmares (maybe). Meaty Ore fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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