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Kuroyama posted:It's a play on the Grand Old Party, or GOP, an alternate name for the Republican party in American politics. I haven't read the series but a quick googling suggests the term in the Japanese is otona tou 大人党, lit. "Adult [Political] Party". The author may have given it an English reading or something at some point though, that would be very shounen manga-y. Either way, seems like a pretty good translation, especially since most of the big Japanese political parties go by three letter initials in English: LDP,
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Compendium posted:Just read U19. It's... Something alright. All the good new shonen stuff doesn't run in Jump. Astra: Lost In Space is fantastic and would be perfect for Jump but It's far safer being in Jump SQ.
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Yeah main jump seems to inundate itself with trash that just gets thrown out after about ten chapters. Or ok stuff that tanks in ratings.
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Feb 19, 2017 23:05
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Yeah main jump seems to inundate itself with trash that just gets thrown out after about ten chapters. Yeah. Honestly it's just safer to buy the GNs and even that's a losing prospect if something goes completely tits up like HxH or Bleach.
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Feb 20, 2017 07:32
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a lot of series that are decent should be in another magazine but they're in jump because its the big one and die as a result
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Feb 20, 2017 08:38
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Quite how it's kept it's reputation as the big one, given it's prone to author burnout (World Trigger, Bleach, HxH, Oda's had a few IIRC) and the series churn that frankly seems to run on the whims of a capricious god (Straighten Up had no business being ended this quickly, frankly, Food Wars shat it's bed in half with the two month long Hayama fight), is beyond me. It sort of sums up everything that they were trying to sell up the fact they had six new series in succession in the Colour Page of We just Don't Learn. ConanThe3rd fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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Feb 20, 2017 10:15
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ConanThe3rd posted:Quite how it's kept it's reputation as the big one, given it's prone to author burnout (World Trigger, Bleach, HxH, Oda's had a few IIRC) and the series churn, is beyond me. Reputation? It sells the most, so it's the big one, I guess?
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darkgray posted:Reputation? It sells the most, so it's the big one, I guess? Reputation as a good publication, not as what makes the most money.
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Feb 20, 2017 10:22
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Cultural inertia I guess? It's still at the end of the day a magazine (can it even be called that? Isn't it phonebook-sized or something in print?) for children. Or at least parents who buy it for their children to shut them up. 
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Feb 20, 2017 10:26
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ConanThe3rd posted:Quite how it's kept it's reputation as the big one, given it's prone to author burnout (World Trigger, Bleach, HxH, Oda's had a few IIRC) I wouldn't say that World Trigger is the result of author burnout, but rather Ashihara is a person made of tissue paper.
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Feb 20, 2017 15:41
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Togashi didn't burnout he crippled himself.
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Feb 20, 2017 15:42
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While pretty much all manga magazines have "making money" as a primary interest, with Jump it takes that to an extreme - they're looking specifically for stuff that will become super marketable and known throughout Japan. So while other manga magazines might just need titles that people will be willing to read, Jump needs stuff that appeals to so many people that it has the potential to become some major, long-running enterprise unto itself with video games, action figures, etc. (This may just apply to the battle and romcom titles, since WSJ seems to have a certain number of slots for different genres and most of the stuff we've been reading lately has been trying to fill the "battle" genre.)
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On a brighter note Prince Poro's Diary was miles better and pretty great stuff all said. One Punch Man by way of a really adorable protag. I said the same of Stealth Symphony so I fully expect for this comic to eat poo poo. Also, Tsun Godzilla is genius. ConanThe3rd fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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Feb 20, 2017 19:18
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World Trigger is probably a result of the dude not being able to tell the difference between the 50 visually similar characters he introduced. If he had Kubo's...unique fashion sense he could put them all in loud outfits and it'd be easier.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:World Trigger is probably a result of the dude not being able to tell the difference between the 50 visually similar characters he introduced. If he had Kubo's...unique fashion sense he could put them all in loud outfits and it'd be easier. I dunno, after reading the whole thing I was able to tell apart most of the main named characters. I mean, they look kinda samey, but not so much that I can't tell them apart. I hope World Trigger starts again, because I actually like it a lot. Its world-building is pretty weak, but it has some great fights and likable character, which are the main things I'm looking for in shounen battle manga.
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psyren could have been a pretty good seinen battle manga imo
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Jose posted:psyren could have been a pretty good seinen battle manga imo I liked Psyren a lot, even though I seem to remember its ending being a little underwhelming. The fights/powers in it were pretty cool and fun.
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Ytlaya posted:I liked Psyren a lot, even though I seem to remember its ending being a little underwhelming. The fights/powers in it were pretty cool and fun. It was cancelled, so yeah its ending sucked. I thought it was interesting enough to read, but it didn't really try to push any boundaries or try interesting things.
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Ytlaya posted:I dunno, after reading the whole thing I was able to tell apart most of the main named characters. I mean, they look kinda samey, but not so much that I can't tell them apart. It's supposed to come back once the author heals up from his injuries, but there's no word as to when that'll be yet.
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Ytlaya posted:I liked Psyren a lot, even though I seem to remember its ending being a little underwhelming. The fights/powers in it were pretty cool and fun. it was generic but i liked it
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I like We Never Learn but...where the hell could it possibly go? Unless some sort of real conflict gets introduced next chapter I think it's probably going to be dropped. It's like really carefully toeing the line between going full shoujo and going Food Wars style "aptitude powers" shonen. It'd be fine as just some sorta slice of life but that's not really Jump's wheelhouse.
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Crain posted:I like We Never Learn but...where the hell could it possibly go? I'm assuming by "shoujo" you meant romance, because that's definitely a pretty standard shounen romcom. Though I'm not sure why Jump is trying to add another one since it seems like that Yuuragi-sou no Yuuna-san manga was going to take the place of Nisekoi. Maybe they just have room for more than one series of that genre.
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Feb 20, 2017 21:36
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Kuroyama posted:It's supposed to come back once the author heals up from his injuries, but there's no word as to when that'll be yet.
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Cant imagine being bent over a drawing board/wacom for weeks on end is any good for that.
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Ytlaya posted:I'm assuming by "shoujo" you meant romance, because that's definitely a pretty standard shounen romcom. Ok yeah, pretty much.
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while jump would likely prefer to have the perfect proportion of genres at all times, but they aren't gonna turn away good stuff while they are scrambling to replace their lineup. all those subpar fighting manga that got canned only got a chance because they've lost all of their big fighting manga except for one piece. for example, i think kimetsu no yaiba is very charming, but a few years ago it would have gotten the psyren treatment at best. with more competition, there is no way such a low key slow starter would have been given so much time.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:while jump would likely prefer to have the perfect proportion of genres at all times, but they aren't gonna turn away good stuff while they are scrambling to replace their lineup. all those subpar fighting manga that got canned only got a chance because they've lost all of their big fighting manga except for one piece. for example, i think kimetsu no yaiba is very charming, but a few years ago it would have gotten the psyren treatment at best. with more competition, there is no way such a low key slow starter would have been given so much time. I wonder how much the internet and self-publishing has had an effect on this as well. When Naruto, One Piece, or even going way back to Dragon Ball and HxH started up your only option was pretty much going for a magazine run. Sure you could do small runs at comiket or other comic meets, but you'd have minuscule circulation. Now you have series like OPM that started out purely online and with terrible art that survived on web traffic. Now ONE is a premiere mangaka with two big, popular series. Places like Jump now have even more options for content and can even gauge popularity ahead of time if an author already has a following due to a web comic or something.
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Fabricated posted:The author has a spine condition in his neck area that's degenerative and doesn't get better typically. World Trigger is on HxH levels of hiatus. how do you or anyone else know this?
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Jose posted:how do you or anyone else know this?
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Jose posted:how do you or anyone else know this? ANN had an article about the hiatus. It also mentions that he'd gone in for treatment in 2014, and some of his previous breaks.
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Crain posted:I like We Never Learn but...where the hell could it possibly go? It does feel a bit directionless even by Shonen Romcom standards, sure. I don't dislike it but there's nothing going on to make me keep reading it either. OTOH, most Shonen Romcoms have some unbelievably terrible plot hook that just drags the story down like Nisekoi's secret promise girl magic keychain BS, or Love Hina's secret promise girl...secret...promise...thing so it could always be worse. U-19 is just aggressively bad, but Demon Prince Diary is charmingly goofy in the first chapter at least.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:while jump would likely prefer to have the perfect proportion of genres at all times, but they aren't gonna turn away good stuff while they are scrambling to replace their lineup. all those subpar fighting manga that got canned only got a chance because they've lost all of their big fighting manga except for one piece. for example, i think kimetsu no yaiba is very charming, but a few years ago it would have gotten the psyren treatment at best. with more competition, there is no way such a low key slow starter would have been given so much time. What do you mean by "the psyren treatment"? Didn't Psyren run for at least several years? Crain posted:I wonder how much the internet and self-publishing has had an effect on this as well. Keep in mind there are a whole bunch of magazines that carry various different types of manga; WSJ is hardly the only option. I think that online manga are still a very small portion of the market. I'm also not really sure if the website that carries Helck should really be considered significantly different from regular print magazines, since it seems basically the same as a print magazine minus the "print" part (i.e. I don't think it involves self-publishing and is instead just a regular magazine except online).
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madmac posted:It does feel a bit directionless even by Shonen Romcom standards, sure. I don't dislike it but there's nothing going on to make me keep reading it either. We Never Learn needs to introduce some new characters pronto, and settle in as a shonen sitcom.
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Ytlaya posted:I'm assuming by "shoujo" you meant romance, because that's definitely a pretty standard shounen romcom. Though I'm not sure why Jump is trying to add another one since it seems like that Yuuragi-sou no Yuuna-san manga was going to take the place of Nisekoi. Maybe they just have room for more than one series of that genre. Yuuragi-sou no Yuuna fills the ecchi niche, while We Never Learn is probably more aligned with Nisekoi, especially since the mangaka did a Nisekoi spinoff for a while.
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Ytlaya posted:What do you mean by "the psyren treatment"? Didn't Psyren run for at least several years? Yeah, I'm really unsure what the reception for western style "webcomics" is like over there. Like here so many got made and are still being made that the market has gone beyond saturated.
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Allarion posted:Yuuragi-sou no Yuuna fills the ecchi niche, while We Never Learn is probably more aligned with Nisekoi, especially since the mangaka did a Nisekoi spinoff for a while. Yuuragi is hilariously shameless. Soma can get bad with the fanservice, drat, this ones on another level. I had no idea Yuuragi was even a thing until I got to Japan and flipped through a new Jump and there were just pages and spreads of blatant tits and rear end. Does anyone actually read it and know if the story/characters or any good, or is it just there to show off its, uh, art assets?
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I tried reading a chapter cause I noticed it was constantly uploaded alongside Shounen Jump stuff, and I couldn't find any plot except vast plots of land affixed atop people's chests.
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:Yuuragi is hilariously shameless. Soma can get bad with the fanservice, drat, this ones on another level. I had no idea Yuuragi was even a thing until I got to Japan and flipped through a new Jump and there were just pages and spreads of blatant tits and rear end. Does anyone actually read it and know if the story/characters or any good, or is it just there to show off its, uh, art assets? I looked through some random chapters, and it seems like every chapter just comes up with some excuse to show some T&A.
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Ytlaya posted:I looked through some random chapters, and it seems like every chapter just comes up with some excuse to show some T&A. No wonder it's still running. Really Jump should just rerun Kurohime. I mean that unironically.
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