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The coyotes' ownership hasn't been great but there's not a lot they can do. They've worked outside of the box on the ASU arena deal which supposedly failed because ASU would rather have some other benefit from the state than a new arena, and they've been dedicated so far to staying in the phoenix metro area. Their salary is still down but they also haven't forced any stupid deals to make it to the playoffs by a shoestring. Fans are bitching about the tippett promotion because of the short term but they're still a young team all around and anyone else probably wasn't going to do any better. The glendale star reports are looking more and more like a hit piece, apparently nobody from the coyotes was on the list of tours for the seattle arena, and the recent tidbit is that there's only one female spokeswoman for the arena and this anonymous source the paper is quoting is a male. The last one is a little tenuous but nobody in phoenix seems to think it's legit and nobody in seattle seems to think it's legit, and the owners deny it, so there's not really a reason to think it's happening, at least until they actually exhaust their options in phoenix.
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Mike_V posted:How terrible would a Quebec City team be in terms of on-ice product? I imagine they would be even more stupid about wanting on Francophones on-ice and on the bench, which would seem to severely limit their competitive ability. Very. Maybe Montreal could go back to being the anglo team and stop fretting as much about French.
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Jordan7hm posted:Very. Probably not. Even watching Habs streams, you get a bunch of people screaming "WE WANT RDS/TVA!". Montreal has aggressively gone after that market since the Nordiques left town, apparently failing to recognise that a very large faction of Quebecers swear a blood oath to never follow Montreal - a faction that still refuses to follow Montreal to this day, twenty-odd years later. hifi posted:The coyotes' ownership hasn't been great but there's not a lot they can do. They've worked outside of the box on the ASU arena deal which supposedly failed because ASU would rather have some other benefit from the state than a new arena, and they've been dedicated so far to staying in the phoenix metro area. Their salary is still down but they also haven't forced any stupid deals to make it to the playoffs by a shoestring. Fans are bitching about the tippett promotion because of the short term but they're still a young team all around and anyone else probably wasn't going to do any better. I personally highly doubt Phoenix will relocate to Seattle. Seattle will get an expansion team, Quebec will be the bait for relocation. If it happens at the same time, Seattle will take Arizona's spot in the Pacific, Quebec will move into the Atlantic and Columbus or Detroit (if it's Columbus, Detroit moves into the Metro - but it will be Detroit because *history*) will move into the Central which solves the imbalanced divisions thing. But as I put in an effortpost on the other page, there's not going to be any real talk of relocation for at least another year, probably two or three unless the Coyotes ownership really start to panic/Glendale takes them to the absolute cleaners. So 2-4 years away from any serious relocation efforts. Schlesische fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Feb 10, 2017 |
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Schremp Howard posted:Is the Seattle council still trying to use the excuse of "We don't want to build unless we're guaranteed basketball"? I want to say that during this saga one of the hold ups was the council not caring that the arena would definitely have a hockey team and possibly basketball when the NBA got to it because without the NBA it was a non-starter. Sacramento just moved into a brand new stadium this year, o they're not moving any time soon The NBA would expand, there aren't any teams right now that have the right conditions to get moved and the new CBA has a lot of language for the event of expansion
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Let's not forget the governor of Connecticut wants to make the XL Center NHL-level again.
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Quebec fans were so violently opposed to the Habs that today many are Toronto and Boston fans.
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The whole cult around that attitude of a "French Canadian team for French Canadians" baffles me. It's gonna be a LONG time before the Habs win a cup again. That attitude was fine when the rule about having first dibs on French players existed, not so much anymore. Imagine if Yankee fans demanded only people from NYC or NY state. The 90s would have been very different if that was the case.
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Then again that's why they won every championship before 1970 but I wouldn't expect any Yankees fan to know or admit that
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I'm okay with Seattle getting a team if it meant Hartford and Quebec City got teams as well
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So what's the update on this dumb team's dumb name? Last I heard, 'Golden Knights' is disputed by a college team and the army's parachute team.
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http://arizonasports.com/story/1024619/sb-1149-which-would-provide-funds-for-new-coyotes-arena-explained/ this just passed through committee, next step is the senate for debate and then vote, and then the house
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 hfboards is ripping on the 24.4MM figure but I think what they're showing is that the coyotes pay the most into their arena? Like the preds figure doesn't make any sense if you're expecting it to be the cost of the ice and janitors or whatever, and not what nashville agreed to to get hockey in their city.
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The Preds have a super favourable lease agreement that lets them earn up to an $8.4 million subsidy based on financial incentives (the city pays the team $1m/yr to manage the arena for them).
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I used CapFriendly's expansion draft pool. Here's what I got. I'm well aware there's no way in hell Brodin goes unprotected, bUt if he did they'd pick him and so would I. Curious to see if anybody would do things differently. FORWARDS (17 - $13,400,833) Kulemin, Nikolai-LW-RW Desharnais, David-C Vanek, Thomas-LW-RW Hansen, Jannik-RW Yakupov, Nail RW-LW Raffl, Michael LW-C Namestnikov, Vladislav C-LW Hendricks, Matt LW Sceviour, Colton C-RW Dano, Marko C-LW-RW Hartman, Ryan-RW Nieto, Matt-LW-RW Bennett, Beau-RW-LW McKenzie, Curtis-LW Arvidsson, Viktor-RW Hamilton, Freddie-C Sedlak, Lukas-C Defencemen-9 - $7,266,667 Brodin, Jonas-D Franson, Cody-D Daley, Trevor-D Schlemko, David-D Connauton, Kevin-D Wikstrand, Mikael-D Megna, Jaycob-D Carrick, Trevor-D Corrado, Frank-D GOALTENDERS (3 - $1,000,000) Raanta, Antti G Subban, Malcolm G Grubauer, Philipp G El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Feb 21, 2017 |
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I would be pretty shocked if the Canucks don't protect or trade Hansen
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JawKnee posted:I would be pretty shocked if the Canucks don't protect or trade Hansen According to CapFriendly he has a NTC. But they might protect him. And I suppose he could waive it so he could play for a decent team.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I used CapFriendly's expansion draft pool. Here's what I got. The Oilers will lose Brandon Davidson if they do the 7/3/1 method, and one of Maroon/Pouliot/Letestu if they go the 8 skaters route. Vegas can do a lot better than just Hendricks.
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I imagine a lot of that is contracts ending. Daley for instance. Does that count for the team in that case or is the player a ufa?
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I think vegas should prioritize vrbata, hanzal, or burmistrov over connauton. It depends on who gets traded though, with hanzal being probably wishful thinking.
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Subban isn't good, pick a better goalie.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I used CapFriendly's expansion draft pool. Here's what I got. I'm well aware there's no way in hell Brodin goes unprotected, bUt if he did they'd pick him and so would I. Curious to see if anybody would do things differently.  GuavaMoment posted:The Oilers will lose Brandon Davidson if they do the 7/3/1 method, and one of Maroon/Pouliot/Letestu if they go the 8 skaters route. Vegas can do a lot better than just Hendricks. I doubt they go the 8 skaters route, so odds are that Davidson gets picked if he's still on the roster. If not him, I hope Russell, but I'm guessing Vegas' management won't be that stupid. So it'll be either Reinhart or, more likely, one of the Oilers forwards they don't protect (that isn't Hendricks). e: Also there's no reason for Las Vegas not to pick Matt Murray, since as far as we know at this point Fleury will still be on the Pens and his NMC will auto-protect him, despite what PAS might say. Kilza fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Feb 21, 2017 |
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Teemu Pokemon posted:A $22M roster Oh I completely missed that. the minimum cap for vegas is 44M, so try again
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Kilza posted:despite what PAS might say. If Murray gets expansion'ed I imagine what PAS might say would be "FIRE RUTHERFORD"
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The Canucks will lose Hansen for nothing because Trev Dog and the Spectrum Bunch are idiots
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Toronto is going to be stuck with Bozak, Polak, and Hunwick forever. 
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Stretch Marx posted:Toronto is going to be stuck with Bozak, Polak, and Hunwick forever. Unless the Leafs extend Polak and Hunwick, they come off the books at the end of the year.
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Schlesische posted:Unless the Leafs extend Polak and Hunwick, they come off the books at the end of the year. The leafs should unquestionably extend one roman polak like fuckin duh Oh and Harry Bozak
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My picks were based completely on who CF's system left unprotected. You're right about Murray, though.
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is arvidsson really going to go unprotected. also i'd figure they'd pick grabner over raanta
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I made some dumbass things because I'm bored and I like the colors and I know it's not a name that's happening, but gently caress it, I'm gonna    Yeah, MSPaint but whatever
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Rotten Cookies posted:I made some dumbass things because I'm bored and I like the colors and I know it's not a name that's happening, but gently caress it, I'm gonna The NHL should unironically make bad MSPaint jerseys like the ones in your av.
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I thought the consensus is that Anaheim is going to lose one of Rakell, Silfverberg, or Fowler unless they make a move. They can't protect everyone due to bad NMCs (lol Bieksa). But it looks like you have Las Vegas taking Megna?
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Rotten Cookies posted:I made some dumbass things because I'm bored and I like the colors and I know it's not a name that's happening, but gently caress it, I'm gonna The owner of the Florida Marlins wanted to name them Florida Flamingos with pink uniforms and had to be talked out of it by MLB 
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a false posted:is arvidsson really going to go unprotected. also i'd figure they'd pick grabner over raanta I don't think so. He's tied for the team lead in goals. I'm thinking Nashville protects: Rinne (NMC), Subban, Josi, Ellis, Ekholm, Forsberg, Neal, Johansen, and Arvidsson. That leaves Smith, Wilson, and Jarnkrok as probably the most likely picks. IMO Jarnkrok is the best bet there but I guess they could take Smith or Wilson for salary floor reasons.
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a false posted:is arvidsson really going to go unprotected. also i'd figure they'd pick grabner over raanta I feel like the Rangers are going to trade a forward, possibly Grabner, simply because his value is going to be really high. Then they'd probably lose Fast, Holden, or Raanta, but the return for a 30+ goal scorer would offset that. Not quite sure how they'll meet this exposure requirement, though: ii) Two forwards who are a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.
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The Wild will probably expose Scandella and Dumba, no way Jonas goes. His ceiling has proven to be endlessly high.
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Top Hats Monthly posted:The Wild will probably expose Scandella and Dumba, no way Jonas goes. His ceiling has proven to be endlessly high. Isn't Dumba pretty solid as well? Like, not suggesting he's on Brodin's level, but he's top 4, no?
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