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Cosmik Slop posted:I look forward to Trump's extensive plans for federal disaster relief. The new dam will have a bankrupt casino!
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disasters are fake news
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Feb 21, 2017 00:41
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This wouldn't have happened if America was great again! 
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Feb 21, 2017 00:46
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Cosmik Slop posted:I look forward to Trump's extensive plans for federal disaster relief. He's already trying to build a wall that would prevent these disasters.
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Feb 21, 2017 00:48
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Platystemon posted:You’re not wrong. i think you mean SUPERSTORM SANDY
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Feb 21, 2017 00:57
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is this still happening or what?
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Feb 21, 2017 00:59
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Mad Wack posted:is this still happening or what? Probably not but there’s an outside chance it happens any time through April if the literal perfect storm hits.
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Feb 21, 2017 01:02
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Cannon_Fodder posted:This is going to be SO goddamn expensive. Have Google build a smart dam.
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Feb 21, 2017 02:09
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When trump fucks up the disaster relief they're gonna call it FloodGate
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Toadvine posted:When trump fucks up the disaster relief they're gonna call it FloodGate Lol
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Feb 21, 2017 02:19
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https://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?ORO Looks like the rain caused the lake to start rising again, but it's still 50 feet from being a problem and they haven't increased outflow so they must not be concerned.
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Feb 21, 2017 02:33
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Looks like the water is rising so there is still hope.
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Feb 21, 2017 02:38
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i thought "the hope" was that there wouldn't be a disaster?
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Feb 21, 2017 02:44
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Space Crabs posted:i thought "the hope" was that there wouldn't be a disaster? Not on the internet, it's not.
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Space Crabs posted:i thought "the hope" was that there wouldn't be a disaster? lol, get the gently caress out of here.
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Feb 21, 2017 02:48
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Space Crabs posted:i thought "the hope" was that there wouldn't be a disaster? i hope the dam catastrophically fails and drowns many many republicans
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Feb 21, 2017 02:51
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:i hope the dam catastrophically fails and drowns many many republicans 
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Feb 21, 2017 03:00
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Space Crabs posted:https://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?ORO It took about 4 days of inflow over 100k cf/s (up to 200k cf/s) to bring the reservoir up 50' to where it started spilling over the emergency spillway, so they'll have a lot of time to think and act.
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Feb 21, 2017 03:02
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Ill Peripheral posted:It took about 4 days of inflow over 100k cf/s (up to 200k cf/s) to bring the reservoir up 50' to where it started spilling over the emergency spillway, so they'll have a lot of time to think and act. And during those 4 days, they never increased the throughput of the main spillway, keeping it below 40-50k cfs in order to minimize erosion. To think they could have just run the main spillway full blast and avoided incurring a gazillion dollars in repairs of the emergency spillway and the evacuation of 150k people. 
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Feb 21, 2017 03:09
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:i hope the dam catastrophically fails and drowns many many republicans If the flood response is slow or expensive, no one will blame the administration other than a generic "oh, that bureaucracy"
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Feb 21, 2017 03:10
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Duzzy Funlop posted:And during those 4 days, they never increased the throughput of the main spillway, keeping it below 40-50k cfs in order to minimize erosion. Yeah but the the emergency spillway blows and needed to be replaced wholesale anyway. Now there’s incontrovertible proof of that. The evacuation costs could have been avoided, though.
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Feb 21, 2017 03:15
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Platystemon posted:Yeah but the the emergency spillway blows and needed to be replaced wholesale anyway. Now there’s incontrovertible proof of that. And the very close call with the brutal water murder of thousands downstream. I remember when they called the evacuation, they thought the spillway was going to fail within an hour, which was nowhere near enough time.
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Feb 21, 2017 03:20
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Ill Peripheral posted:And the very close call with the brutal water murder of thousands downstream. I remember when they called the evacuation, they thought the spillway was going to fail within an hour, which was nowhere near enough time. I want to know if there was any consideration of “this is one of the less dangerous times to uses the untested emergency spillway” or if it was all luck.
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Feb 21, 2017 03:25
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Just so you all know California is building a supertrain from Los Angeles to San Francisco and cannot be bothered with silly damns
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Feb 21, 2017 03:28
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I'm glad that my three floor apt building is made of wood and will just wobble violently instead of collapse when the earthquake hits I also keep a tent and camping backpack packed near my front door to go sleep in the park and drink filtered decorative pond water (just in case)
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Feb 21, 2017 03:41
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pushpins posted:Just so you all know California is building a supertrain You say that like it's a bad thing.  Supertrain!
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Feb 21, 2017 03:42
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Supertrain! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUERtAe73NI&t=5s
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Feb 21, 2017 03:44
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naem posted:I'm glad that my three floor apt building is made of wood and will just wobble violently instead of collapse when the earthquake hits Pick some oranges so u don't get scurvy. We will miss u naem
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Feb 21, 2017 03:45
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:i hope the dam catastrophically fails and drowns many many republicans Drowning republicans in Florida would be better than drowning them in California. When's hurricane season?
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Feb 21, 2017 04:04
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Wait a sec, what if the dam is actually holding water out. 
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Feb 21, 2017 04:14
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:i hope the dam catastrophically fails and drowns many many republicans Geez! That's pretty negative! Personally I hope that the dam achieves enlightenment and transcends Samsara, leaving this plane of existence and releasing a crushing wall of water which kills all those people you mentioned.
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Feb 21, 2017 06:54
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Now I'm no big-city highfalutin' Damologist, but: 1) Why doesn't the emergency spilloff empty into the regular outflow ramp? Why does it just go down the hill when it could be shunted over like a rain gutter? Naturally once the shunt hit its own maximum it would overflow down the hillside like now, but it seems like this could have been largely mitigated? 2) If the river can take 240k cfs, why were they limiting it to 140 kcfs even during crisis times? Shouldn't the floor-minimum of the normal overflow be "75% of river-safe outflow" that can be bumped up during crisis? I'm guessing this has to do with limiting erosion of the normal outflow ramp, but I'd think "dam failure, town washed away sometime within the next hour" is a worse fail-state than "outflow ramp completely destroyed and needs to be rebuilt when its safer/dryer season, giving us at the minimum drastically more time to solve the problem in some way or even completely evacuate" Edit: I've got a pretty good idea on what the answers are, but I just have a huge hardon for  wall-of-text explanations of things like this.
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Burt Sexual posted:Pick some oranges so u don't get scurvy. We will miss u naem One of my neighbors has lemons trees in their backyard, I am training now to fight over them with the local urban garbage raccoons
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Evilreaver posted:Now I'm no big-city highfalutin' Damologist, but: I'm pretty sure the explanation for this one is that a plain dirt hill is free, but a concrete ramp costs money.
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Yes why doesn't this thing that is only supposed to be used when the normal spillway is at capacity or disabled just empty into the normal spillway what a mystery.
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Feb 21, 2017 09:34
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Yes, why have an emergency spillway, why not just send more water over the main spillway?
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Feb 21, 2017 09:42
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Cosmik Slop posted:I look forward to Trump's extensive plans for federal disaster relief. watch him bumble into acing this completely on a fluke
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Feb 21, 2017 12:32
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Privatize our nation's crumbling infrastructure Those dams have huge blank concrete faces that could be sold as ad-space
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naem posted:One of my neighbors has lemons trees in their backyard, I am training now to fight over them with the local urban garbage raccoons My sister has a lemon tree and an artichoke plant and I get jealous but then I remember they paid $500,000 for a sharecroppers shack that would be bulldozed where I live.
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Why even have spillways that just break and gently caress things up, just let it flow over the top of the dam.
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