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Neeber posted:Who was it in Pride that had devastating knees to the head from north south? GSP had some really nasty knees to the body from top side control as well - imagine if those were allowed to go to the head. It seems that it's the unified rules neutering knees from side control that makes it a less desirable position that top half since all you're left with from a GnP standpoint is short elbows and hammerfists. I think you're also looking for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdpegokRf1Y
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Haven't ordered the rash guards yet but I'll report on them when I do. Two thoughts - rolling with a legit heavyweight is loving terrifying. This dude is a thick legit 265 and says he has lost weight. The feeling of, "Welp, I'm just gonna die" I had when he got to full mount but couldn't finish things was immense. Would tapping to that be tapping to terror Jo Son style? Secondly, I've had a nagging shoulder pain since November when I started working out. I just figured it was old age. But today we were drilling and I was turtled up. When I posted my arm to prevent getting rolled, it gave out at the shoulder. I heard five ratchety cracks and yelled loud enough for the instructor to come check. If I'm in pain I normally laugh or silently inhale. I've never experienced, even in all my combat sports experience, yelling from pain. Anyways, my shoulder is mobile but sure as gently caress sore. Is that a "Go to the doctor" moment or a "You're old" moment?
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Captain Log posted:Haven't ordered the rash guards yet but I'll report on them when I do. Go to sports physio if you can afford it. and if not then rest it until it doesnt hurt anymore then do some strengthening exercises for muscles around your rotator cuff/scapula
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Captain Log posted:Haven't ordered the rash guards yet but I'll report on them when I do. sounds exactly how I felt when I tore my labrum
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manyak posted:. and if not then rest it until it doesnt hurt anymore then do some strengthening exercises for muscles around your rotator cuff/scapula http://www.healthline.com/health/rotator-cuff-injury-stretches#Side-lyingexternalrotation5 - this is pretty much what I was told to do.
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willie_dee posted:http://www.healthline.com/health/rotator-cuff-injury-stretches#Side-lyingexternalrotation5 - this is pretty much what I was told to do. Yep those are good, and Id just add that you should start with a lighter dumbbell than you think you need to, if not no weight, until you have good awareness/body mind connection with those muscles
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Yea, and also you will notice a massive imbalance probably, this is normal, do as many reps as you can with your strong side, then try and work up to matching it with the other side.
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All great info - thanks guys. I think I'll pop into the doctors if I can this week. If it's just being old, I'll nurse it and compensate. But if something is breaking or tearing, I need to get that seen about. I've only had experience in lovely joints with breaking my ankle three times. Knock on wood, everything else has always worked fine. Also knee on chest is waaaaaay worse than knee on belly when you have a hosed up pancreas.
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PRP injections are your friend I've got a couple more concept/technique videos that I've found interesting. A lot of them are from the same channels. Are you guys looking at other videos from the channels I post? If so I don't want to be too repetitive. If not, I'll link up basically everything that I find to be pretty cool...Up to you all.
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JaySB posted:PRP injections are your friend This isn't a busy thread and I phone post a lot (hard to follow playlists and poo poo) so links are very welcome.
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manyak posted:Yep those are good, and Id just add that you should start with a lighter dumbbell than you think you need to, if not no weight, until you have good awareness/body mind connection with those muscles I'd also recommend that basically everybody who visits a gym to do these exercises regardless of if you need them. It takes a couple of minutes and could save you some problems down the track. You won't though.
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Cool technique. Interesting detail about grip and some meta game stuff that I think are cool here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltwtW5MRFtY
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Alright road trip time. So on Sunday I entered my fifth tournament, blue belt, first at 70kg, and I won my first gold medal. 2 man division, right enough, but still. It was in the no gi division. Match lasted 15 seconds, my guy tried for a single, stuffed him, guillotine, he worked out of it, I sprung round for a rear naked choke and got the tap. Totally buzzing. I was on a 9 match losing streak, having lost every match I'd been in since my very first one. Was good to change my fortunes finally - I'd been doubting myself a lot. Anyway, it was nice moment. Finish of the match is here, lol at my team-mate's commentary. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlCbMyfG8q8 I'd lost earlier on in the gi division - got swept a few time and lost on points. Went on the mat feeling tentative and slow, very much first gear, couldn't get anything going. I think one of the big differences between my performances was the warm up. For the first match, I did some perfunctory push ups, stretches etc. Before my second I'd spent the prior hour light rolling with team-mates. I walked on to the mat having broken a sweat and in a higher gear. Worked to my advantage fortunately. Anyway, I lost via footlock in the absolute no-gi so the losing streak starts anew lol. Got the Scottish Open in 5 week though, so I'm looking forward to that. I'll put up my other matches if you want but there's not much to them.
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lol your teammates are awesome. A whole lot of ribbing but 100% supportive. Nicely done Ichibahn.
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Yeah, i got a lol from that. They're always supportive but it's true, i never win! Me and one of the guys actually had competing losing streaks. He was on 13, i was on 9 until Sunday.
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Captain Log posted:All great info - thanks guys. If it's a general practitioners, lookout for the "well you should just stop all physical activity response". Idk what the hell it is but every time I've seen a GM about a sports injury they recommend a sedentary lifestyle in perpetuity but still somehow exercising too. Even when I swam in HS my doctor was like "well it's not good you should quit". So I just stopped seeing Doctors about these things for like a decade. I finally ended up with dr who said "this isn't my area but here is a referral for a sports doc I know". The sports Doctor totally fixed me up within 6 weeks. Medical system is an F-ing nightmare for just some muscle strains. Hate to imagine the experience when things are really wrong.
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That's because a GP's job is to set up a treatment plan that increases overall wellness with a long-term view, which includes risk reduction. A lazy GP will say "stop doing it" because that's the best way to avoid injuries and problems in the long term. A good GP will say "stop doing it, but I know that you won't, so here's a referral to a physiotherapist." Exercise to a GP is stuff like spin.
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Xguard86 posted:If it's a general practitioners, lookout for the "well you should just stop all physical activity response". Idk what the hell it is but every time I've seen a GM about a sports injury they recommend a sedentary lifestyle in perpetuity but still somehow exercising too. Even when I swam in HS my doctor was like "well it's not good you should quit". So I just stopped seeing Doctors about these things for like a decade. This is so loving true it hurts. When I originally had my almost dying thing everyone was recommending yoga as a substitute and I just looked at them like they were high. If I can't do something, just tell me I can't. Don't try and trick me into thinking yoga beats pajama fighting. Even the first neurologist to clear me for grappling wanted me to do something "light" but said hard exercise is better than nothing. Thank God it turned out my hospital's sports clinic had an after hours walk in spot for me. I wish I had this appointment when I was fifteen. Dude gave me an unpronounceable diagnosis that I'll provide if anyone is curious. Basically he looked at my musculature after x-rays and told me I'm way overbuilt in my chest and way under built in my back leading me to overcompensate in bad ways. He said he could tell from my posture and it explains why my posture improves with getting in shape. Some physical therapy and my joint will stop trying to escape itself. I was horrified that I was going to be told that after three classes I was done, or something else lovely. But I'll be back in a few weeks if nothing else catches on fire.
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Captain Log posted:This is so loving true it hurts. When I originally had my almost dying thing everyone was recommending yoga as a substitute and I just looked at them like they were high. If I can't do something, just tell me I can't. Don't try and trick me into thinking yoga beats pajama fighting. Even the first neurologist to clear me for grappling wanted me to do something "light" but said hard exercise is better than nothing. While were on the topic, yoga/pilates/etc when done properly can be great for correcting posture, improving mobility, and giving you better awareness of your body so that these types of injuries are less likely to occur. I wouldnt write off that stuff so quickly, theres a reason why Rickson and lots of those other guys that grapple into later life all do stretching, breathing exercises, gynastica naturale and so on
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manyak posted:While were on the topic, yoga/pilates/etc when done properly can be great for correcting posture, improving mobility, and giving you better awareness of your body so that these types of injuries are less likely to occur. I wouldnt write off that stuff so quickly, theres a reason why Rickson and lots of those other guys that grapple into later life all do stretching, breathing exercises, gynastica naturale and so on Oh don't let my tone indicate that I don't see the value in it. The heavyweight guy who thrashed me the other night was telling me what yoga videos to google and I was sure as gently caress listening. He was the first legit heavyweight I'd rolled with and it was interesting encountering an immovable object who wasn't a tub of goo.
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I was lucky that my insurance let me skip a GP and go straight to a specialist for my back. I saw a DO at UTSouthwestwrn's spine and physical medicine center. She referred me to PT and hopefully I'll be back to bjj this weekend after a month of being out. GP's are pretty much the old joke about the guy who goes to the doctor because it hurts when he waves his arm and the doc says "don't do that"
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I still don't train but if you are in the Valley of the Sun the Sonoran Spine Clinic is pretty good. The PT I worked with was a PhD.
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manyak posted:While were on the topic, yoga/pilates/etc when done properly can be great for correcting posture, improving mobility, and giving you better awareness of your body so that these types of injuries are less likely to occur. I wouldnt write off that stuff so quickly, theres a reason why Rickson and lots of those other guys that grapple into later life all do stretching, breathing exercises, gynastica naturale and so on this . use it or lose it. and you will lose it .. if you want to be healthy and mobile past your 40s its mandatory to stretch daily (not necessarily right before u do your training, but daily). if you compete for fun or money, you can stay at a higher level for a lot longer this way
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manyak posted:While were on the topic, yoga/pilates/etc when done properly can be great for correcting posture, improving mobility, and giving you better awareness of your body so that these types of injuries are less likely to occur. I wouldnt write off that stuff so quickly, theres a reason why Rickson and lots of those other guys that grapple into later life all do stretching, breathing exercises, gynastica naturale and so on I used to poo poo on pilates when I was younger and involved in powerlifting until I accrued a few injuries and realize tons of the rehab movements prescribed are from pilates. Also you could start doing rotator cuff circuits. Internal rotation, external rotations, brachial hangs, scapula push ups, wall slides, etc.
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Personally I don't understand why there's a gender class. I mean weight classes solves the biggest issues right?
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JHomer722 posted:https://www.twitter.com/joerogan/status/835554033649668097 What did the tweet say?
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Tezcatlipoca posted:What did the tweet say? It was something about how society catering to the needs of the few lead to discrimination against everyone else. edit: that's never happened before. drat these trans folk!
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Forget the exact language, but something about how people take tolerance too far. It was in reference to a trans kid who is forced by state law to wrestle in the girls state tourney, despite the fact he had transitioned by taking testosterone and is just running through the bracket. Although he's apparently undefeated through the season, and I assume his record reflects matches against both genders?
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He refined his tweets and I don't disagree with him. They have a girl who is taking steroids wrestling girls who aren't. It's unfair to the girls who aren't taking steroids and it's unfair that they won't let the girl who is taking steroids wrestle vs boys. Which is what she wants to do (she transitioning to he)
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JHomer722 posted:It was in reference to a trans kid who is forced by state law to wrestle in the girls state tourney, despite the fact he had transitioned by taking testosterone and is just running through the bracket. Although he's apparently undefeated through the season, and I assume his record reflects matches against both genders?
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I just sat through a clinic on the new judo rules. Phone posting tl;dr no big changes outside the scoring. Leniency now on stuff that would have previously been a penalty. Shidos can no longer win a match - they don't break ties anymore.
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Tezcatlipoca posted:What are some of the things that used to be penalties? At a full keyboard now so here's the rundown: Unchanged Penalties - Shido
The biggest penalty changes are for irregular gripping.
A secondary penalty change is that refs are encouraged to call noncombativity penalties faster in most cases, except if both competitors have a regular grip - a competitor who has some kind of regular, non-defensive grip is allowed approxmiately 45 seconds to commit to attack before shido. Leg grabs no longer result in immediate DQ. The first one results in a regular shido; the second one results in DQ. The referees were instructed to ignore incidental leg contact, and to try to only call leg grabs if the leg contact somehow affects the technique, whether offensively or defensively. This takes a ton of pressure off of the competitors who in the past were being DQed for leg grabs that they didn't even realize had happened. The single biggest change is that shidos cannot determine victory in regulation time. If offensive scores are tied at the end of regulation, the match proceeds to sudden-death golden score. Here's the confusing spart shidos can cause match end in golden score, but only if the player who recieves the shido then has the most shidos. EG, Pat and Joe are fighting in golden score, Pat has 1 shido, Joe has zero. If Pat gets a shido, he loses. If Joe gets a shido, play continues, but then if Joe gets a second one, he loses. There have also been some semantic changes over the definitions of certain wazaris and penalities for certain kinds of high-risk defensive manouvres, which nobody but a ref would really notice, and which I won't get into unless someone really cares. The scoring changes are that yuko and wazari are combined under wazari, which no longer combines to ippon. All elite matches are 4 minutes. 3 shidos results in disqualification, decreased from the previous 4. Apparenly the ippon rate has gone way up in the elite competitions which have used these rules, because this ruleset seriously disincentivizes defensive judo - it's no longer possible to get up by a trivial score and then play patty-cake until time runs out. These rules are right now operating on a trial basis, to be reviewed later this summer going into the World Championships.  any questions?
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These changes actually sound really good compared to what I'm used to hearing about with judo (or have a confirmation bias.) I am interested in what the high risk defensive maneuvers are that you mentioned.
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Some good RNC details https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXgzv2Wy9OM
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DeimosRising posted:The heck is a "false attack"? Does that mean no feints? False attack is mostly a non-committed attack executed to create a stop in action or a transition to ne waza - think a lazy sacrifice throw which had no chance of working. They'll also call false attack on someone who is doing nothing but feinting for a period of time without following those feints up.
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DeimosRising posted:The heck is a "false attack"? Does that mean no feints? Fake moves that you use to get on the ground to stall the match and get a mate so you can take a breather get a chance to re-grip. Most of the time it's people doing a fake tomoe nage (drop to your back with your foot in the guy hip to throw him over yourself) to pull guard. Some people also do fake drop seois to go to turtle to stall.
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