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melon cat posted:I work with a lot of Grade 7-8 students, and let me tell you- there seems to be this weird, persistent interest in Marine Biology (is that at all similar to marine Archeology? Maybe. I don't know). In every class I've ever taught in, there's always a good handful of students who say that they want to become a Marine Biologist. And whenever they say it, they always say it with a smirk like it's the mightiest of career decisions. So they don't just say, Do the girls still walk around with stuff covered in dolphins? My sister couldn't get enough of Space Dolphins and now one of her degrees is in marine biology.
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Weatherman posted:You mean archaeology and praxeology. I feel like I'm missing a joke here...
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Ornamented Death posted:You're confusing archaeology and paleontology. Look I have a big stack of National Geographic back issues. I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about.
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I've known a couple marine biologists who are still in their field. One has a job in sustainability in Philippines, which is in the spirit of what a typical marine biologist lives for. She doesn't make enough money and is supported by her dad. Another friend is a dolphin trainer at Universal Studios, where he trains smart animals to do dumb tricks out of their small, artificial enclosures. I met another marine biologist as a marine mammal observer for offshore oil & gas. It's well paying but terribly boring, probably one of the better career options available. Oh and I know a guy who manages commercial fish farms. There are career options for marine biologists but they aren't usually what a 12 year old is dreaming about. They just want to swim with dolphins, like how the land version 12 year old girl wants to ride horses. (e: I know one of those jobs is literally "swim with dolphins" but it's in a kind of soul destroying way, not swimming with wild-but-humanized Flipper) Switchback fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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Agreeing with the smug bastards observation - many of them are just kids who went on an ~~awesome holiday~~ where they learned to dive and decided that there's nothing awesomer. I had to suffer living with a group of them one year at university. However, the schadenfreude was all mine in the end as I saw them coming into my postgrad microbiology lab year after year to do their projects, coming to the realisation that their subject covers microbiology, and that they will not be high-fiving dolphins for their dissertation.
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Switchback posted:I've known a couple marine biologists who are still in their field. Giggling at the idea that all the future marine biologists are some kind of aquatic subspecies  I went to high school with a guy who grew up to be an honest-to-god digging in the dirt paleontologist, and while I'm sure he's not getting rich off it it's incredibly cool to know even one person who got to be what he wanted when he was five years old.
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quote:who got to be what he wanted when he was five years old. Five-year-old me wanted to either be a pirate in an ice cream truck or a ballet-dancing barber running a barbershop called "Spin and Snip." Needless to say, my life did not go as planned.
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Sundae posted:Five-year-old me wanted to either be a pirate in an ice cream truck or a ballet-dancing barber running a barbershop called "Spin and Snip." Needless to say, my life did not go as planned. I wanted to work in a video game store. My prick of a ex-worker managed this, but I forsook the dream.
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Accretionist posted:Do the girls still walk around with stuff covered in dolphins? My sister couldn't get enough of Space Dolphins and now one of her degrees is in marine biology. Is your sister Lobo?
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Sic Semper Goon posted:I wanted to work in a video game store. I wanted to work in the video game industry. BWM: working in the video game industry
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I'll chime in on the Marine Archaeology front. I work in the oil and gas business, and federal offshore oil and gas leases (and the associated laws) require archaeological surveys and reports. I've seen a few of these reports; apparently a lot of the shallow water areas weren't submerged during the last ice age so they basically talk about the known Native American settlements in the area and any subsea formations that could potentially be e.g. a midden or something similar. They also include discussion of shipwrecks and the like, as undersea flowlines and pipelines may need to be routed around them if they're present. A brief overview is here. I imagine the reports are 96% copy/paste of a form report, but at least it's not all pretending to be Indiana Jones with a Scuba tank. As with marine biologists in oil and gas, I imagine it requires a fair amount of non-exciting boat time away from family and is subject to highly cyclical nature of the business. A friend was a marine biologist who worked on seismic survey vessels. She is now an insurance agent because she just couldn't get enough work after the 2014 downturn. The closer you are to the wellhead, the quicker your job disappears. I can't imagine ever making a go of it with $160K+ in student loans.
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As for living in a landlocked area and wanting to study marine biology, a lot of colleges have reciprocity agreements where you can get in-state tuition studying at another facility that actually has the degree you want. Doesn't make it not a dumb idea, but there non-expensive avenues available.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/5v4dww/4300_stolen_from_credit_card_by_child_family/quote:A young family member used my credit card to buy £4,300 worth of Fifa points from the xbox live market place. I discovered the theft when thousands of pounds went from my current account to pay off the credit card via direct debit. Chargeback? quote:I am out of the 120 day limit now... Crap I wish I knew about chargeback at the time of discovery, I might have just about been in the limit. Repayment? quote:Since it happened I've took him to shops trying to get him a paper round. Wrote CV with him to help. No joy there. quote:I live an hour away from him. I made him go door to door washing cars. He told me over the phone he had washed one car, two cars three etc. When I visited on the weekend he had infact washed zero (he lies a lot). I physically took him to neighbours and washed their cars with him. Cant force him to do it while i'm away (95% of the time) and no dad in the picture to discipline him. I've got him to wash ten cars with golithic effort. Cops? quote:I've seriously considered doing this. My mother talked me out of it as she said it would be too much for my elderly grandparents. It's all a real poo poo show to be honest, has put a real strain on the family. 
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Zamujasa posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/5v7q6b/being_sued_for_the_first_time_for_credit_card_debt/ you didn't quote the best part of that thread, when he replied in the comments with quote:I luckily am expecting a liter of AKC dogs that will be ready within the next two months so I will have more than enough to pay the debt. not horses but close
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Co-signer saga woes #291quote:How to I resign from being a Co-signer? Please help me. I live in Ontario, Canada https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/5v6ow1/how_to_i_resign_from_being_a_cosigner_please_help/ I just like this forum post even though it doesn't go anywhere: quote:Crowdsourceing my mortgage? There's also a post on Reddit right now asking for job advice in the fashion industry to pay off their 140k in student loans on a 27k income from their current job. I think that fashion degrees are the women's equivalent of the B.S. in Game Design where following your dream ruins your life forever. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Feb 21, 2017 |
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Zamujasa posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/5v7q6b/being_sued_for_the_first_time_for_credit_card_debt/ For a second there I thought he just googled a credit card number and used that.
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Harry posted:For a second there I thought he just googled a credit card number and used that. https://twitter.com/needadebitcard
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Zo posted:you didn't quote the best part of that thread, when he replied in the comments with The real BWM is the people who pay thousands of dollars for a dog that can't either drive a car or play basketball.
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lmao that's awesome. I remember one time in grad school I was at the library and a guy in the adjacent study carrel was clearly making some kind of bank transaction so I wrote down his name, birthday, SSN, and credit card info as he read them out loud. After he concluded his phone call I handed him the paper with his info and said "hey, you might not want to say all these things out loud in public in the future."
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melon cat posted:I work with a lot of Grade 7-8 students, and let me tell you- there seems to be this weird, persistent interest in Marine Biology (is that at all similar to marine Archeology? Maybe. I don't know). In every class I've ever taught in, there's always a good handful of students who say that they want to become a Marine Biologist. And whenever they say it, they always say it with a smirk like it's the mightiest of career decisions. So they don't just say, That was the case back when I was in school except it was the default choice of every single girl who didn't actually think about it too hard
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Accretionist posted:What are utilities like for a remote cabin? And nearest hospital? Cost of insurance, or coverage for fire. I don't know what its like in the states/anywhere else but I know once or twice a year I hear of a house fire where the home owners either don't have insurance or they didn't pay their fire dues so the fireman watched their house burn. I feel bad but I have little sympathy. ate all the Oreos posted:I wonder how many kids think archaeology is like Indiana Jones. Like with most 'glamorized' professions I always hope people realize how boring or low paying their 'dream career' is.
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I'm starting my first full time, permanent job in archaeology tomorrow, and I'm 28. And I think I'm ahead of the curve there. Most jobs are temporary project-based work, living out of hotels, finding a new project every couple months. They can pay decently, last project I was making about $24 an hour, and I worked one project where we got $750/week, cash per diem (and about 20 hours/week OT). But that lifestyle is only sustainable for a few years for most people.
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Splish posted:I'm starting my first full time, permanent job in archaeology tomorrow, and I'm 28. And I think I'm ahead of the curve there. Most jobs are temporary project-based work, living out of hotels, finding a new project every couple months. They can pay decently, last project I was making about $24 an hour, and I worked one project where we got $750/week, cash per diem (and about 20 hours/week OT). But that lifestyle is only sustainable for a few years for most people. What do you actually do, is it all very carefully digging up pieces of broken pottery with tiny brushes for hours on end or are you the person who takes the already dug up broken pottery and writes a ton of stuff about where this particular shard came from, or what
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ate all the Oreos posted:What do you actually do, is it all very carefully digging up pieces of broken pottery with tiny brushes for hours on end or are you the person who takes the already dug up broken pottery and writes a ton of stuff about where this particular shard came from, or what The people going from project to project are generally the ones doing the field work (usually pedestrian survey/site identification), whereas the mythical full time employees oversee the fieldwork and then write up the reports. This is generally done for a consulting firm, with the clients being oil/gas/energy companies that need to comply with federal environmental regulations. So, archaeology is BWM in two ways: lack of full time jobs, and pretty much the entire industry is built on regulations that are perpetually in danger from republican lawmakers. Yes, the day after the election was loving brutal in the office.
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AndrewP posted:When I was young and dumb in college I filled out an application for a Discover card to get a free Papa John's pizza. The hat was probably worth more. In my case, it was for a 2-piece meal from Church's. The chicken wasn't even that good.
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Splish posted:The people going from project to project are generally the ones doing the field work (usually pedestrian survey/site identification), whereas the mythical full time employees oversee the fieldwork and then write up the reports. This is generally done for a consulting firm, with the clients being oil/gas/energy companies that need to comply with federal environmental regulations. Thanks, I know it's derail-y but I really like hearing about day to day stuff done on more unusual jobs, like a while ago someone had a thread about just working at the LHC and while it was full of cool science stuff the stuff I found most interesting was just how they did things in the control room or around the office or whatever  e: also none of them had heard the "Large Hard-on Collider" joke until we told the op in that thread 
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ate all the Oreos posted:Thanks, I know it's derail-y but I really like hearing about day to day stuff done on more unusual jobs, like a while ago someone had a thread about just working at the LHC and while it was full of cool science stuff the stuff I found most interesting was just how they did things in the control room or around the office or whatever Oh, I got BWM talk. We end up in a ton of small towns for projects, and I once encountered a guy in his mid-twenties who a) spent three years in the Dakotas making bank in the oil fields (six figures per year, allegedly) b) didn't pay tax on any of it, because "if you REALLY read the Constitution, it doesn't say you have to" c) was in town trying to get on a drilling crew because his money was almost gone Not to mention that no matter how often I've heard coworkers bitch about the lack of benefits, I only know one other shovelbum with an IRA.
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Domestic Amuse posted:In my case, it was for a 2-piece meal from Church's. The chicken wasn't even that good. Two pieces is not a meal!  / 
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Ornamented Death posted:I feel like I'm missing a joke here... You did. Blugu64 was obviously making a joke, and you missed it. So I thought I'd see if I could prod you into realising. And you didn't. Sorry about your  
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Re: Marine Biology. I recall in the early 90's, the pretty/popular girls in high school would pine for psychology degrees and the less popular/more brainy girls would pine for marine biology degrees mostly because they binged on SeaQuest DSV and had huge girlycrushes on Jonathan Brandis. This was in CA, so marine biology was definitely popular over at UC Santa Cruz.
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When I was in high school, my school offered a choice between AP Bio, or Marine Bio. Everyone gave me a funny look for taking AP bio. I never really thought about it again til now but I'm laughing thinking about it. All those 16 year old girls going batshit over that class like it was the coolest thing ever, I didn't get it at the time and I still don't get it now.
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Sometimes weirdly esoteric degrees can become very GWM. I have a friend who got a degree in "Emergency Management" that was created in 1999 or so. He graduated about two years after 9/11 and right out of college got a job offer to move to New Hampshire and run their disaster management office at age 22 for 90k a year + Pension + State Benefits + Student Loan Aid. He is still there and the cost of living 30 minutes outside of Nashua is dirt cheap. Basically, 9/11 can be good with money.
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Part of it for me was that the sea was the cool and exotic thing that I had never seen, living thousands of miles from the ocean. I wanted to go on cool trips and see all the fish and whales and sharks that looked so awesome in those nature shows on the Discovery Channel. My parents even bought this $200 marine biology textbook with lots of cool photos after I saw it as a 10 year old.
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