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The Croctopus grows fat eating Japanese airframes and American carriers.
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That's a bit off for a haiku. How about-- Croctopus grows fat Consuming Japanese souls And US flattops (And for the tanka... But naught will date its hunger, Such is the way of all war)
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Feb 19, 2017 18:27
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two! Two carrier kills ah ah ah
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Feb 19, 2017 18:40
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Ron Jeremy posted:Maybe all those causal ties were just the assholes and they were guiltily glad to be rid of them A level of simulation no one ever thought of until now!
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Feb 19, 2017 18:42
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Chenango, Chenangoing, Chenangone.
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Feb 19, 2017 18:49
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The Chenango and Suwanee weren't Delaware that any Japanese carriers were operating in the area, that's how they got caught flat-footed!
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Feb 19, 2017 18:55
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Night10194 posted:Allied carrier just have the worst luck against Grey. It's a good thing too, since their planes are practically unstoppable.
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Feb 20, 2017 01:15
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That was a shitshow even though you did get the CVEs. Your carrier air should be better than that in early 1943. e: corrected year TheDemon fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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Feb 20, 2017 01:45
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That just shows you shouldn't send a plane to do a battleship's job.
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Feb 20, 2017 02:16
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TheDemon posted:That was a shitshow even though you did get the CVEs. Your carrier air should be better than that in 1942. Oh dear, you must be new here. Don't worry: It gets way worse as Grey starts overdrawing his pilot pool to replace Betty/various dogshit airframe pilots, and dead carrier pilots get replaced with undertrained idiots. . Another stung victory for Great Japan. I'm surprised your CAP was that big in 1943. Does WiTP ever get up to 500 plane TB/F4F strike forces like what sunk the Yamato?
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Feb 20, 2017 06:18
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A White Guy posted:Another stung victory for Great Japan. I'm surprised your CAP was that big in 1943. Does WiTP ever get up to 500 plane TB/F4F strike forces like what sunk the Yamato?
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Feb 20, 2017 06:25
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A White Guy posted:Oh dear, you must be new here. Don't worry: It gets way worse as Grey starts overdrawing his pilot pool to replace Betty/various dogshit airframe pilots, and dead carrier pilots get replaced with undertrained idiots. . Yes. Pearl Harbor is a 250+ plane attack that always happens (barring player shenanigans)
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Feb 20, 2017 06:34
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gradenko_2000 posted:Yes. One of the things that came up in another WITP thread was a game where the Japanese player amassed so many planes that the game's air combat model shat itself and the CAP just stopped working. The IJN had to sacrifice the first few hundred Vals and Kates, but the back half of the locust swarm went completely unmolested and sank something like half a dozen Essex class carriers. That guy wanted to test "the limits" of what Japan could do against a green newbie. Stayed at Pearl Harbor for six days. The new guy took Hokkaido and the veteran started whining about fire bombs.
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Feb 20, 2017 07:27
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:That just shows you shouldn't send a plane to do a battleship's job. Not empty quoting.
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Feb 20, 2017 09:30
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RA Rx posted:That guy wanted to test "the limits" of what Japan could do against a green newbie. Stayed at Pearl Harbor for six days. And then 'lost the save' when he couldn't turn back the assault in short order.
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Feb 20, 2017 12:19
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Plek posted:And then 'lost the save' when he couldn't turn back the assault in short order. yeah the veteran player in that game was a huge baby and kept insisting on using bizarre exploits while house-ruling that heavy bombers could not fly lower than such-and-such heights &c
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Feb 20, 2017 13:15
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On the bright side the new guy was happy about everything (he just wanted to learn and was grateful I think) and they both had fun playing together as friends.
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Feb 20, 2017 13:23
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   These guys run into each other three time, avoiding conflict each time.  Down you go! Two less CVE's to worry about!   We lose a lot of men, but the forts are cracking!   After a longer rest, we start this up again.  I'm a completist – I want that base and to destroy these troops.   We took out a couple of ships, but the land losses were heavy.  These things are well worth killing!
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Feb 20, 2017 18:23
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Clearly in this alternate timeline, America's going to have to roll out the Liberty Carriers.
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Feb 20, 2017 18:42
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Did those losses make a dent in their CVE number, or are they at the point where there are just too many for a few losses to matter?
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Feb 20, 2017 18:48
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It depends on what stage of the war. At this stage? Yes, they do matter. Later? Two is a drop in a 50+ bucket.
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Feb 20, 2017 18:53
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I think the big thing is that if Grey can keep killing them piecemeal as they show up in ones and twos, then he has a very slim chance of preventing them getting to critical mass of overwhelming him with numbers.
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Feb 20, 2017 18:55
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Grey Hunter posted:
"gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress" - destroyer captains, probably
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Feb 20, 2017 19:15
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After a long break without historical sinkings, we return on 20 February 1943 Japanese destroyer Oshio, sunk by US submarine Albacore in the Admiralty Islands.
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Feb 20, 2017 19:23
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vyelkin posted:I think the big thing is that if Grey can keep killing them piecemeal as they show up in ones and twos, then he has a very slim chance of preventing them getting to critical mass of overwhelming him with numbers. And if he keeps killing them out of sight of Allied bases. I don't think there are any where he sunk them so their airgroups are likely dead in the water.
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Feb 20, 2017 19:29
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RZApublican posted:Did those losses make a dent in their CVE number, or are they at the point where there are just too many for a few losses to matter? quote:16.1.1 AUTOMATIC SHIP REPLACEMENTS It doesn't specifically state CVE's, so in theory they are gone forever and have no free replacement. Jobbo_Fett fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Mar 5, 2017 |
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Feb 20, 2017 22:48
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Wait the allies just get a new carrier whenever they lose one? What kind of poo poo is that? Does it just appear in alameda or something and just have to drive out back to the battle? E: read to the end. So it appears 450 days later?
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Feb 21, 2017 03:01
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Ron Jeremy posted:Wait the allies just get a new carrier whenever they lose one? What kind of poo poo is that? Does it just appear in alameda or something and just have to drive out back to the battle? Yeah they just get to poop out another carrier for free without any effect on their current production/industrial capacity, afaik.
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Feb 21, 2017 03:15
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Allied player doesn't do any industry stuff, right? They have the US economy backing them up.
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Feb 21, 2017 03:24
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wiegieman posted:Allied player doesn't do any industry stuff, right? They have the US economy backing them up. Yup.
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Feb 21, 2017 03:26
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Ron Jeremy posted:Wait the allies just get a new carrier whenever they lose one? What kind of poo poo is that? Does it just appear in alameda or something and just have to drive out back to the battle? It's to represent the fact that there wasn't actually a limit to how many aircraft carriers the US would have built if the Pacific War had gone on longer and they had been needed. The Japanese military in real life probably thought it was pretty unfair how well the Americans were able to replace lost ships too.
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Feb 21, 2017 04:09
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Ron Jeremy posted:Wait the allies just get a new carrier whenever they lose one? What kind of poo poo is that? Does it just appear in alameda or something and just have to drive out back to the battle? That's basically what's happened to the sunken American CVs in real life actually. 
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Feb 21, 2017 04:49
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So the only real impact is losing experienced aircrews? Assuming they can't find an alternate landing spot?
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Feb 21, 2017 04:56
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Ron Jeremy posted:So the only real impact is losing experienced aircrews? Assuming they can't find an alternate landing spot? Well, also that you get another year and a half with one fewer US carrier.
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Feb 21, 2017 04:58
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vyelkin posted:It's to represent the fact that there wasn't actually a limit to how many aircraft carriers the US would have built if the Pacific War had gone on longer and they had been needed. The Japanese military in real life probably thought it was pretty unfair how well the Americans were able to replace lost ships too. The IJN (or at least, the lower echelons of the IJN) was well-aware that the longer this thing on, the more USN ships would have to be sunk. I can't really talk for Tojo or Yamato, because Tojo never penned any memoirs and Yamato was killed during the war. Everyone else in the upper echelons, especially Kondo, was an enormous dumbass. Ron Jeremy posted:Wait the allies just get a new carrier whenever they lose one? What kind of poo poo is that? Does it just appear in alameda or something and just have to drive out back to the battle? The poo poo it is representing the utterly absurd ability of the US to replace losses. The US had slightly less than half the total industrial capacity of the entire planet at this point. If they were losing carriers left and right, it's not beyond the pale to imagine that more shipyards would've dedicated themselves to building CVs instead of liberty ships/corvettes/LSTs/etc. HOI4 which is basically arcade WW2 gives the US a silly industrial capacity potential, to the point where the US is perfectly capable of loving up the engine. Even if the US players does nothing but build shipyards, it's literally impossible for the US player to replicate the historical ability of the US to build naval vessels. That's why the Allies get such latitude in the rules, because the game designers were aware that they weren't capable of replicating perfectly the industry of the US.
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Feb 21, 2017 05:00
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Anyways, for Grey congrats on sinking two baby flattops! And how goes doing your own pilot training and replacing aircrews and researching? You putting a lot of your more experienced aicrews into pilot training to help get more in the pipeline or not?
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Feb 21, 2017 05:55
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Do the Japanese even do the whole "have veterans train the new guys" thing?
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Feb 21, 2017 05:58
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Ron Jeremy posted:Wait the allies just get a new carrier whenever they lose one? What kind of poo poo is that? Does it just appear in alameda or something and just have to drive out back to the battle? Japan fighting the USA was not a fair fight.
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Feb 21, 2017 06:05
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:Do the Japanese even do the whole "have veterans train the new guys" thing? They do, and if the player is clever enough with rotating veterans and assigning rookie pilots to trainer missions in China the Japanese can have competitive pilots well into 1944.
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This has probably been asked before, but when Germany Surrenders does the US get all the European Inf Divs that were earmarked for Japan? Not that you'll need them I guess because 
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