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Moreau posted:Sweet lord above, this looks awful. Kingdom of Heaven (director's cut) is actually amazing though?
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Pierogi posted:I can't unsee that Watson looks like the Gaston faceswap meme. It's probably the eyebrows. well tHANK YOU now i cannot unsee it too.
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StarMinstrel posted:well tHANK YOU now i cannot unsee it too. 
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Jedit posted:I need fewer films that blatantly steal from John Carpenter in my life. The effects, logo and half the premise are lifted directly from The Thing, the rest of the setup is his favoured "Rio Bravo" scenario. John Carpenter deserves to be stolen from though, in a good way. He has a unique style that doesn't get used anymore because he hasn't made a good film in over 20 years. Deakul fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Feb 21, 2017 |
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The Surrounding Game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFgauzMsjjA
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Deakul posted:John Carpenter deserves to be stolen from though, in a good way. I love it when elements of his work serve as inspiration for stuff like The Guest or Doomsday, but we've got enough creatively bankrupt note-for-note nostalgia trips going on as it is. Carpenter doesn't need to be added to those.
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Deakul posted:John Carpenter deserves to be stolen from though, in a good way. Do shorts count? He directed these videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3_QOVaBA98 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TRj6Dt2lrA
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Alehkhs posted:The Surrounding Game Looks good, but drat if every shot seemed off axis? Especially all the ambiance shots?
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feedmyleg posted:Don't worry, Robin Hood: Origins just started filming and set photos show that they're tackling the Crusades. Whew! To be fair, the story of Robin Hood is set during one of the crusades, and the rightful king, Richard the Lionhearted, has buggered off to go fight in the Middle East, leaving the uber-rear end in a top hat Prince John in charge.
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The Saddest Rhino posted:maybe the kid will die like the one in avp: requiem The other crazy part of that movie was when the pred-alien found itself to a pregnancy word and shoved eggs down a bunch of like 9 months pregnant women. Next time you see the room, they're all dead with their stomachs burst open.
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Spikeguy posted:The other crazy part of that movie was when the pred-alien found itself to a pregnancy word and shoved eggs down a bunch of like 9 months pregnant women. Next time you see the room, they're all dead with their stomachs burst open. I guess stuff like that can cross a line for people, but establishing just how amoral the aliens are makes sense when you're trying to create a contrast with the hero, given the hero is a character known for skinning people and hanging them from trees.
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Deakul posted:John Carpenter deserves to be stolen from though, in a good way. In The Mouth of Madness came out in 94 so I'll accept this.
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On the Carpenter-esque topic, Seth Ickerman and Carpenter Brut are currently working on a 30-minute film called Blood Machines. It's a sequel to their Turbo Killer video, so just pretend that's the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er416Ad3R1g
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Dillbag posted:Not a trailer per se, but... that kid is Jacob Tremblay from Room, one of the best child actors to come around in a long time, though Alehkhs posted:On the Carpenter-esque topic, Seth Ickerman and Carpenter Brut are currently working on a 30-minute film called Blood Machines. gently caress yes
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Alehkhs posted:On the Carpenter-esque topic, Seth Ickerman and Carpenter Brut are currently working on a 30-minute film called Blood Machines. Going to see Carpenter Brut in March in Los Angeles.  
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:that kid is Jacob Tremblay from Room, one of the best child actors to come around in a long time, though
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gently caress, he's only playing an Austin date, not a Houston one 
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Moreau posted:I would say the Crusades are right there, but then I remember Kingdom of Heaven and I just start incoherently screeching... What, people couldn't understand that you were screaming "the director's cut of this movie is really great!"? Sir Kodiak posted:I guess stuff like that can cross a line for people, but establishing just how amoral the aliens are makes sense when you're trying to create a contrast with the hero, given the hero is a character known for skinning people and hanging them from trees. Only people who are armed and can theoretically fight back. Theoretically (realistically can't beat a guy who cloaks and uses aimbot laser to near-instantly eliminate all threats)
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Only people who are armed and can theoretically fight back. Well, exactly. It's got a code of ethics, but it's so absurdly weighted in its favor you need the aliens to do something pretty degenerate to have it be something it wouldn't do. Doesn't Schwarzenegger end up unarmed by the end of the movie anyways? Been a bit since I've seen it.
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Sir Kodiak posted:Well, exactly. It's got a code of ethics, but it's so absurdly weighted in its favor you need the aliens to do something pretty degenerate to have it be something it wouldn't do. He techs down when he realises this renders him invisible to the Predator and uses his opponent's own tactics against him (going invisible, being all sneaky and poo poo and setting up traps all over the place to gently caress him up), and is only caught out when he slips up and loses his cloaking.
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The original Predator is very much about Masculinity, so yes he ends up with just a rock at the end. Kind of like how in Die Hard, John keeps shedding the trappings of civilized clothes.
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Meanwhile, it's worth remembering that in terms of representation of women and the main protagonist's attitudes towards them, the 2 big McTiernan films of the 80s were pretty drat progressive for its time. In Predator, once Dutch realises his team are in deeper poo poo than they initially realised, he treats Anna as an equal and is never really sexualised in any way. In Die Hard, while McClane does show some conservative views on his wife's work, he immediately regrets taking a stance that effectively causes an argument during what should be a joyful reunion (when he admonishes himself in the private rest room in her office while she's attending Takagi's Christmas Party address), expresses remorse over the way he treated his wife prior to the estrangement of their marriage (when he's talking to Powell over the radio while pulling shards of glass out of his feet) and in the end, he's on his way to becoming a supportive husband in her choice to pursue a career (when he introduces Holly as "Holly Gennaro" to Powell). He even acknowledges just about every woman he comes across in the film, including the pin-up of the topless lady in the construction area in the roof.
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Holy poo poo the same guy made Die Hard and Predator??  That man is a bonafide genuine god drat hero/genius
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Hero and great director, yes. Genius, no. He lied to the FBI and got caught, then fired his lawyer when offered a 4 month sentence, or something to that effect. When he went to trial he got 12 months in the slammer.
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Spatula City posted:To be fair, the story of Robin Hood is set during one of the crusades, and the rightful king, Richard the Lionhearted, has buggered off to go fight in the Middle East, leaving the uber-rear end in a top hat Prince John in charge. Also it won't be the first Robin Hood film to features the crusades: Robin Hood: Prince of Thievesand its parody Robin Hood: Men in Tights both started in Jerusalem, off the top of my head.
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rawillkill posted:Kingdom of Heaven (director's cut) is actually amazing though? Does it cut the godawful HELLO I AM 21ST CENTURY HUMANISM SPEAKING speech at the end?
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flosofl posted:I was just thinking about that movie the other day, wondering when it was being released. If you want a lot of tentacular monstrosities, it's got you covered. Script is a bit lacking but you can't have everything.
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Sir Kodiak posted:Well, exactly. It's got a code of ethics, but it's so absurdly weighted in its favor you need the aliens to do something pretty degenerate to have it be something it wouldn't do. You can kind of apply that to most superheroes though. While they aren't skinning people they are fighting opponents vastly weaker than themselves because they've deemed them a legitimate target. Yet superhero movies easily convince us the hero is the one to root for without having their opponents kill entire wards of pregnant women. Not that I mean to be too critical, I just find it funny how much your point applies to characters like Captain America or even James Bond yet how differently we as an audience view them.
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Dillbag posted:Hero and great director, yes. Genius, no. His career also fizzled out very rapidly in the 90s, with a string of flops. He does have The Hunt For Red October, Die Hard With a Vengeance and The Thomas Crown Affair remake to his name - all of which were either commercially successful, critically successful or both, but for every critical or commercial hit he made, it was followed up with a massive flop or two like Rollerball or Last Action Hero.
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I saw a bit of Rollerball when I was a kid & I didn't want to watch it because it reminded me of Network, which I do remember liking but since I saw it when I was 12 it purely exists in my memories as this stressful feeling of people constantly sweating and being horrible to each other.
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I saw Alien at 12 and was fine. I am glad I did not see Network at 12.
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I saw Andrei Rublev at age 12, and The Cook, the Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover at age 7. Guess what kind of broken human I turned out to be! 
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Hat Thoughts posted:I saw a bit of Rollerball when I was a kid & I didn't want to watch it because it reminded me of Network, which I do remember liking but since I saw it when I was 12 it purely exists in my memories as this stressful feeling of people constantly sweating and being horrible to each other. Have you seen The Running Man?
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Don't you ever disparage a Schwarzenegger film. They are all amazing in their own right.
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Vintersorg posted:Don't you ever disparage a Schwarzenegger film. They are all amazing in their own right. Running Man doesn't 100% hold up today, I'm sad to say. Predator and Total Recall definitely do because of their respective directors (and obviously the first two Terminators). And Commando is still watchable because of the cheese factor. But RM doesn't quite have the spark that Commando does that helps you ignore the fact that it's not terribly well made.
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ReV VAdAUL posted:You can kind of apply that to most superheroes though. While they aren't skinning people they are fighting opponents vastly weaker than themselves because they've deemed them a legitimate target. Yet superhero movies easily convince us the hero is the one to root for without having their opponents kill entire wards of pregnant women. I appreciate the point, but I do think you're underselling the impact of a character hunting for pleasure, skinning his victims, and hanging them from trees as trophies. Or that superheroes, in general, are picking their targets based on something other than who would be the most fun to kill.
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Dillbag posted:Running Man doesn't 100% hold up today, I'm sad to say. Predator and Total Recall definitely do because of their respective directors (and obviously the first two Terminators). And Commando is still watchable because of the cheese factor. But RM doesn't quite have the spark that Commando does that helps you ignore the fact that it's not terribly well made. ftfy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy8rT8oHCbI
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Running Man rules and the supporting cast crushes it.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Running Man rules and the supporting cast crushes it. This. That guy above is nuts. That movie is entertaining as hell.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Also it won't be the first Robin Hood film to features the crusades: Robin Hood: Prince of Thievesand its parody Robin Hood: Men in Tights both started in Jerusalem, off the top of my head. Don't forget Robin Hood : Thief of Wives!!
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