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EmmyOk posted:It was so good up until the base invasion of the Future Arc where like you said we ended up with the endless "no this is the true ultra final secret ultimate form" every few chapters. The Shion family was so such utter trash and the Arcobaleno one wasn't really that good, it'd have been god directly after the ring arc if the series ended then. Also KHR has the worst ending possibly ever. My thing is I liked most of the characters(even if the arcs they were in were lovely). So seeing them interact in the Pacifier battles was fun. Then OMG THE REAL ENEMY SHOWS UP AND HE'S SOME MUKURO LOOKING MOTHERFUCKER RatHat posted:Didn't Reborn start out as a mostly comedy series until low ratings forced it to become a battle shounen? It actually lasted fairly long as a pure comedy series(year and some change), but yeah She started introducing battle components with Mukuro(fun watching powers previosuly used only for gags being used in combat), and went full on Battle Manga with the Vongola Rings arc. Dexo fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Feb 21, 2017 |
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Fabricated posted:Fishman Island kinda sucked. Hodi was pretty easy to hate as a badguy but he and his crew mostly existed to get dunked on by the Straw Hats to show off their post time-skip powerups. It kinda went on too long. You take that bit about Zoa back-nin-nin Its the payoff for the samurai, more info on the poneglyph, a charming new cast of characters, an actual stepoff point for the strawhats into the new world, introduced reasons to go after yonkou except "they gotta", confirmation on Wano It was the densest arc storywise in a long while.
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Feb 21, 2017 21:47
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Cake Attack posted:I read Fishman island all at once, I started reading one piece when it was starting dressrosa, and fishman island sucked rear end Same, entirely.
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Feb 21, 2017 21:47
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Dexo posted:My thing is I liked most of the characters(even if the arcs they were in were lovely). So seeing them interact in the Pacifier battles was fun. Then OMG THE REAL ENEMY SHOWS UP AND HE'S SOME MUKURO LOOKING MOTHERFUCKER The character interactions were really wonderful and great and I miss them a lot. I didn't really like the Shion family at all though. I really liked the Vongola Ring Arc so I'm glad it changed from a pure gag manga but it's such a shame that he wasn't able to sustain it or end it sooner.
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Feb 21, 2017 21:53
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EmmyOk posted:The character interactions were really wonderful and great and I miss them a lot. I didn't really like the Shion family at all though. I really liked the Vongola Ring Arc so I'm glad it changed from a pure gag manga but it's such a shame that he wasn't able to sustain it or end it sooner. *She. And it really felt like the end there that that series had to be selling toys or something for kids. Because they literally got new powers, upgraded and different looking rings and weapons like every 40 chapters. I wonder if Reborn was doing sweet toy numbers or something I know it was popular with Jump's female readership and probably survived as long as it did just off the strength of that(for fairly obvious reasons)
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Fabricated posted:The Promised Neverland is really good
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Feb 21, 2017 22:01
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Ytlaya posted:I looked through some random chapters, and it seems like every chapter just comes up with some excuse to show some T&A. Definitely going to read this manga.
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Feb 21, 2017 22:53
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If you just want T&A I'm sure there are better options.
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Feb 21, 2017 23:17
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There's this series called To-LOVE-ru I hear is modestly popular.
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Feb 21, 2017 23:24
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just read porn
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gently caress, beaten
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RatHat posted:Yeah Reborn was so good for a while, then it became hilariously bad. Like Bleach really, just more consistent in its badness. Bleach at least still had occasional moments of brilliance. Reborn never became as bad as Bleach, IMO. Like, at worst it just became "really cliche shounen", while Bleach became downright bad writing to the extent where I was amazed it was even getting published. My favorite illogical part of Reborn is the fact that, after returning home from the future where the main character defeated the dude who was able to conquer the future world, including defeating his future self, there was still any sort of challenge left other than arguably the zombie arcobalenos. Especially since, IIRC, they were able to bring back their pet box things. No one else should have been able to touch the main cast by that point. Like, where was the MC's badass dad (who was stronger than post-future MC) while angel-dude was taking over the world? Pewdiepie posted:Definitely going to read this manga. As other people mentioned, I mean that in the sense that "everything else happens with the sole purpose of acting as an excuse for T&A" rather than just T&A being shoe-horned into an already existing plot. It's basically porn without the actual nudity.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Same, entirely. I still think the flashback is insanely good, and the ultimate theme of the arc was decent too. But yeah, I didn't really care enough about the villains or most of the fishmen/mermaids. Basically, you had a really cool setpiece, and excuses to explore multiple of your characters *cough*Nami*cough*, but we didn't really get anything exciting out of the whole exchange. I'm also in the minority, but I didn't really think Punk Hazard was good either. While the villains were...okay, not much happened that really felt to justify the length of it, and most chapters just left me bored. Dressrosa had a good first half, and some excellent action in the second half, but it got so contrived to stretch out the length of the arc to chapter 800. This definitely hurt more as we read it week to week, since this is when Oda started taking breaks every third or fourth week. Zou was better for the payoff in the backhalf, but the front half was a pretty big drag, too. I'll accept it, though. Whole Cake has mostly been good, so no complaints there.
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SpazmasterX posted:There's this series called To-LOVE-ru I hear is modestly popular. There's a name I haven't heard in quite a while. Is it actually still ongoing? Also, I've heard good things about Yabuki's previous series Black Cat. Is it worth looking into or is it generic shonen trash?
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Mikl posted:There's a name I haven't heard in quite a while. Is it actually still ongoing? the latter, but it is at least readable.
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Black Cat was p much budget Kenshin IIRC. With Guns and Nanomachines(son). It was fine. I think the Anime was more focused and thus a bit better.
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What are some decent shounen* romance manga where the plot actually progresses and the plot isn't just "nerdy guy inexplicably has a bunch of girls interested in him"? A good example of the kind of thing I'm talking about is Masamune-kun no Revenge. It isn't anything amazing, but the main character isn't a loser, it isn't just a vehicle for showing a bunch of T&A, and the plot moves forward at a decent clip. I spent a while blindly looking through manga with the Shounen and Romance tags on batoto/kissmanga and almost everything I found was either total trash or stuff I've read in the past. edit: Slow Motion is another thing I like, though I think it runs in a seinen magazine. *Seinen is also okay, though I'm looking for stuff that is relatively light-hearted
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:gently caress, beaten lol Ytlaya posted:Reborn Wait, wasn't Reborn the one with the yakuza baby or whatever? I would not have expected that to go there based on the few chapters of it I read.
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Ytlaya posted:What are some decent shounen* romance manga where the plot actually progresses and the plot isn't just "nerdy guy inexplicably has a bunch of girls interested in him"? A good example of the kind of thing I'm talking about is Masamune-kun no Revenge. It isn't anything amazing, but the main character isn't a loser, it isn't just a vehicle for showing a bunch of T&A, and the plot moves forward at a decent clip. There's the manga adaptation of the light novel trilogy about Shinonome Yuuko, but it only covers the first volume. Not sure how well it works out in manga format, but the novels were very nice. Basically a pure romance thing. I think someone may have translated the first novel as well.
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z0glin Warchief posted:
Around chapter like 60 or so it starts turning into a battle manga.
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Dexo posted:Around chapter like 60 or so it starts turning into a battle manga. Yeah I'd heard about it becoming a battle manga, but I figured it would be like... yakuza-level battles, not angels taking over the world. I guess that's shounen for you.
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z0glin Warchief posted:Wait, wasn't Reborn the one with the yakuza baby or whatever? I would not have expected that to go there based on the few chapters of it I read. These are some serious loving mafia.
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reborn took ages to decide wtf they even meant by the word mafia. if i remember right it turned out to be a super powered local militia with no particular connection to crime, organized or otherwise.
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Ytlaya posted:What are some decent shounen* romance manga where the plot actually progresses and the plot isn't just "nerdy guy inexplicably has a bunch of girls interested in him"? A good example of the kind of thing I'm talking about is Masamune-kun no Revenge. It isn't anything amazing, but the main character isn't a loser, it isn't just a vehicle for showing a bunch of T&A, and the plot moves forward at a decent clip. The answer is always Love Hina.
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Fujiyama-san wa Shishunki may be right up your alley.
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How's Toradora? It seems like it might be just the sort of thing I'm looking for. I've read both Love Hina and Fujiyama-san. I don't really like the former much; it's main focus is hijinx and all the romance elements aren't remotely compelling (partly for the "nerd randomly attracts a bunch of women" reason). Fujiyama-san is pretty good, though it always gave me some vague fetishy vibes for reasons it's hard to specify. Like, I know it doesn't show much skin or anything, but it still sorta gave me that feeling (the same kinda goes for that Kanojo wa Rokurokubi manga).
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toradora is good but the manga isn't the original so if you're looking for something to read i dunno about the manga
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:reborn took ages to decide wtf they even meant by the word mafia. if i remember right it turned out to be a super powered local militia with no particular connection to crime, organized or otherwise. Pretty sure that even in Reborn, the Mafia are criminals. It's just that some of them more vigilante groups than for-profit criminal syndicates. The Varia are explicitly assassins, IIRC, and Tsuna's whole reason for not wanting to become the boss was that he didn't want to become a criminal. There was a reference to Vongola Primo being the vigilante type rather than a selfish criminal, but I believe that was also how the Mafia in the real world got started. I had five big issues with Reborn. Two of them have already been mentioned: the power levels make no sense after the Future arc, and everyone changes their powers too much. A problem I had with the manga (but not the anime) is that the mangaka isn't very good at panel composition during fights, and having everyone's powers involve shooting variously-colored flames everywhere in a black-and-white comic doesn't help. A fourth problem is the circular character development. Tsuna starts to grow a spine, then he goes back to being wimpy during the downtime between crises. Yamamoto starts to take things seriously, then someone advises him to go back to seeing everything as a game again and he does. Finally, Reborn is surprisingly sexist, even for a shonen manga. It's somehow considered worse for Kyoko, a girl Tsuna's age, to fight than for a 5-year-old boy like Lambo to do so, and Lal Mirch is the only female character allowed to accomplish anything.
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Ytlaya posted:What are some decent shounen* romance manga where the plot actually progresses and the plot isn't just "nerdy guy inexplicably has a bunch of girls interested in him"? A good example of the kind of thing I'm talking about is Masamune-kun no Revenge. It isn't anything amazing, but the main character isn't a loser, it isn't just a vehicle for showing a bunch of T&A, and the plot moves forward at a decent clip. Prison School.
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^^^ Prison School owns, but unfortunately I'm already following it.Cake Attack posted:toradora is good but the manga isn't the original so if you're looking for something to read i dunno about the manga Is the anime version good? Or should I read the LN translation? Silver2195 posted:Finally, Reborn is surprisingly sexist, even for a shonen manga. It's somehow considered worse for Kyoko, a girl Tsuna's age, to fight than for a 5-year-old boy like Lambo to do so, and Lal Mirch is the only female character allowed to accomplish anything. Yeah, it's even worse than, say, Naruto in this regard (despite the author being a woman).
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Ytlaya posted:^^^ Prison School owns, but unfortunately I'm already following it. anime is good, definitely better then any LN fan translation
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Iris Zero is real good Also, maybe Rin? It's not necessarily a romance manga but it's pretty good.
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Every time I'm reminded about Iris Zero only serves to remind me how few scans of it we get per year.
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Allarion posted:Every time I'm reminded about Iris Zero only serves to remind me how few scans of it we get per year. that's cause the author was sick iirc and it went on hiatus for a long time.
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Beck is also a great coming of age story with bits of romance sprinkled over it.
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Cake Attack posted:that's cause the author was sick iirc and it went on hiatus for a long time. Ah, that explains it. Wasn't sure if we were actually up to date on it or not.
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Allarion posted:Ah, that explains it. Wasn't sure if we were actually up to date on it or not. the latest chapter has a joke about being canceled after all the down time lol
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Relin posted:i've tried reading YYH multiple times but I could never get to an exciting part. so much boring shinigami stuff Are you confusing YYH with Bleach because then I'd understand. YYH moves at a lightning pace, there's a ton of exciting poo poo
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