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Evil SpongeBob
Dec 1, 2005

Not the other one, couldn't stand the other one. Nope nope nope. Here, enjoy this bird.
Any job series can get a COR cert. There are 1 week class courses or you can do it all online.

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Drewski
Apr 15, 2005

Good thing Vader didn't touch my bike. Good thing for him.
I mean... I wouldn't want to be a COR. There's a lot of responsibility and liability if you gently caress up.

Evil SpongeBob
Dec 1, 2005

Not the other one, couldn't stand the other one. Nope nope nope. Here, enjoy this bird.
If you work with contractors in any way, I'd still get the cert for the info. Even if you're not the COR, you can still get in trouble for stuff like unauthorized scope changes.

Just don't tell your boss you got the cert.

Leviathan Song
Sep 8, 2010
Agreed. I was a COR for a while and it didn't really seem that bad. It was a lot more cut and dry than a lot of the engineering paperwork I had to sign off and you're just as screwed if you mess that up. If anything people who didn't take the training were way more likely to get themselves in trouble.

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

So, I joined the CCC instead of taking up an offer for two USFS interviews (for temporary and low paying GS-04 jobs). When/if I go looking for USFS/NPS/BLM work in a year or two, will the fact that I declined the interviews follow me around?

provided those agencies still exist in a year or two and haven't been so neutered/bankrupted

sparkmaster
Apr 1, 2010
By chance were these positions fire or trails related?

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

sparkmaster posted:

By chance were these positions fire or trails related?

Trail related. The job was basically a really well paid janitor for camp sites.

sparkmaster
Apr 1, 2010
Generally land management guys don't care a bit.

That being said, temporary positions are the gateway to perm positions in those agencies. A good chunk of their perms spent at least a few seasons as a temp of some sort.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

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We got word that a few of our subagency's common positions had been exempted from the hiring freeze by DHS; it makes me wonder whether this is the beginning of the dam bursting and them giving up or whether DHS just has more latitude than some agencies in declaring its employees important enough to keep hiring (possibly both).

kys
Dec 8, 2007

Let's run this shit down to sea level!
So, I've been offered the Immigration Service Officer 1 position at the Potomac Service Center. Does anyone have any current details of OT and telework? I'm looking at taking a pay cut to take advantage of that sweet, sweet, telework.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

Dr. Quarex posted:

We got word that a few of our subagency's common positions had been exempted from the hiring freeze by DHS; it makes me wonder whether this is the beginning of the dam bursting and them giving up or whether DHS just has more latitude than some agencies in declaring its employees important enough to keep hiring (possibly both).

My understanding is that it's basically the agencies flaunting the order and waiting for the executive to sue.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

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kys posted:

So, I've been offered the Immigration Service Officer 1 position at the Potomac Service Center. Does anyone have any current details of OT and telework? I'm looking at taking a pay cut to take advantage of that sweet, sweet, telework.
None of my close friends moved there, but the scuttlebutt was always that Telework was not yet possible because there was no way to get files out of the facility to a personal vehicle, which is necessary the way the Telework guidelines are written. But if you know more than I do, then by all means, go for it (and update me so I can update my office!). I suspect overtime is PROBABLY available, though similarly the word on the street is that Potomac Service Center handles a lot of the less-important files since its original mission was utterly destroyed by a judge in Texas and then an election, so it is hard to say whether the overtime is virtually unlimited like in other Service Centers or what.

Discendo Vox posted:

My understanding is that it's basically the agencies flaunting the order and waiting for the executive to sue.
Oh or that makes sense too. Maybe trying to target a few specific positions that sound plausibly essential to make it not really worth their time to push back? I notice none of the positions considered "support staff" in our subagency seem to have been exempted, for example.

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Apply for CCC, join, about to ship out. My email gets flooded with USFS/NPS interview offers from jobs I applied for. :negative:

sparkmaster
Apr 1, 2010

A White Guy posted:

Apply for CCC, join, about to ship out. My email gets flooded with USFS/NPS interview offers from jobs I applied for. :negative:



CCC as in California Conservation Corps?

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

Nap Ghost
So shot in the dark, but I'm a pharmacist desperately trying to get out of the hellish retail field and I've heard mumblings about international pharmacy through the military or through agencies that hire pharmacists for federal work/bases and whatnot. Does anyone know anything about that? I feel pretty lost trying to look for info on it and it really seems like the kind of thing that requires insider knowledge to not be screwed over.

Splish
Sep 17, 2008

Dr. Red Ranger posted:

So shot in the dark, but I'm a pharmacist desperately trying to get out of the hellish retail field and I've heard mumblings about international pharmacy through the military or through agencies that hire pharmacists for federal work/bases and whatnot. Does anyone know anything about that? I feel pretty lost trying to look for info on it and it really seems like the kind of thing that requires insider knowledge to not be screwed over.

I think you could probably go work for the VA in the city of your choice. Searching pharmacist on USAjobs brings up like 150 results. Don't know if the pay is what you're looking for, though.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

Nap Ghost
The VA is one route but they don't have any openings in my state. Supposedly we're opening another VA in New Orleans but good luck getting into a hospital that doesn't exist yet without connections.

Baronash
Feb 29, 2012

So what do you want to be called?
Is the status of my application a good barometer for how the hiring process is progressing? Could they potentially hire someone without my application ever moving past "received"?

Applying for a job with the Park Service, if it matters.

Just Dont Look
Nov 6, 2007

Perhaps thou shalt dain to sup on the meaty sustenance of my loins.

Baronash posted:

Is the status of my application a good barometer for how the hiring process is progressing? Could they potentially hire someone without my application ever moving past "received"?

Applying for a job with the Park Service, if it matters.

It will depend on the agency's HR folks, but generally no. I've been in my current position for over 6 months and the status hasn't updated from referred since the initial notice of results in March of 2015.

Man_of_Teflon
Aug 15, 2003

Welp even though HR confirmed we can still internally promote, our agency's jobs board on USAJOBS.gov slowly declined and has been blank for a couple weeks now.

I better hope that one of the promotions I applied for last year come through! Everytime I ask HR about them the answer is "they should be making the decision within the next two weeks." I'll believe it when I see it.

Kolodny
Jul 10, 2010

I was initially denied for my job! It seems to be very very dependent on local HR, and usajobs is at best a rough barometer

Baronash
Feb 29, 2012

So what do you want to be called?
Is it bad to alter your resume when applying for multiple positions at the same place? My first application is still in limbo, but a similar position appeared in the last couple days. I would like to tailor my resume to support what is on the questionnaire they give me, something I didn't do last time because I didn't know about the questionnaire until after my resume was submitted.
Would it be looked at negatively if my resume was significantly different than the one I submitted previously? I'm not lying about anything I have done. There are just duties I've had in the past that I realized I should put more focus on.

Beerdeer
Apr 25, 2006

Frank Herbert's Dude
This new executive order is the first time I've ever been worried about my job

e_wraith
May 5, 2012

Damn pods!
Grimey Drawer

Baronash posted:

Is it bad to alter your resume when applying for multiple positions at the same place?

It's never a bad idea to tailor your resume to specific positions, many places expect candidates to do that for different jobs. They also expect resumes to get better as candidates gain experience from applying. And all that being said, the same person may never get a look at two of your resumes anyway. Just don't get too creative, make sure you can support everything you put down.

Beerdeer
Apr 25, 2006

Frank Herbert's Dude
I'm not entirely convinced that the Secretary of Homeland Security knows what USCIS does

sparkmaster
Apr 1, 2010

Beerdeer posted:

I'm not entirely convinced that the Secretary of Homeland Security knows what USCIS does

Knowing what your department does isn't a requirement of the job. My new boss knows how to get elected and shoot brown people overseas.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

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TOVA TOVA TOVA
Hah. I had the feeling that meeting was going to be atrocious as soon as they scheduled it to start when most workers' shifts would be ending or almost over.

Somehow I doubt he addressed the question one of my co-workers sent in, citing the specific sections of the Immigration and Nationality Act clarifying that [USCIS'] funding cannot be used by [ICE or CBP], and asking for assurance that the administration had every intention of following the law.

Thesaurus
Oct 3, 2004


Hiring freeze officially lifted. Good luck to those who were already in the hiring pipeline when it froze up

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

Thesaurus posted:

Hiring freeze officially lifted. Good luck to those who were already in the hiring pipeline when it froze up

Perfect timing, I'm getting my resume circulated internally at my chosen entity. Any public confirmation?

Delorence Fickle
Feb 21, 2011

Discendo Vox posted:

Perfect timing, I'm getting my resume circulated internally at my chosen entity. Any public confirmation?

http://www.npr.org/2017/04/12/523473051/trump-lifting-federal-hiring-freeze

Agencies are still going to over hire like crazy to kill the backlogs that are going on.

problematique
Apr 3, 2008

What saves a man is to take a step. Then another step. It is always the same step, but you have to take it.

Thesaurus posted:

Hiring freeze officially lifted. Good luck to those who were already in the hiring pipeline when it froze up

Not entirely true, State has guidance the freeze is still in place, even though it's been lifted by WH and OMB.

Midge the Jet
Sep 15, 2006

Education also still has a hiring freeze in place despite the lift.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.
Really the absolute best and worst time to have my CV circulating among the unit heads. Hopefully my heart will start again next week.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

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Time to roll the dice and just quit my job and put my recently-obtained "career status" to use!

grenada
Apr 20, 2013
Relax.
Any contract specialists here? Considering attempting the jump from COR to CS. Being a COR is my favorite part of my job now, so I figure why not do it full time.

Hackan Slash
May 31, 2007
Hit it until it's not a problem anymore

laxbro posted:

Any contract specialists here? Considering attempting the jump from COR to CS. Being a COR is my favorite part of my job now, so I figure why not do it full time.

I'm so sorry.

Thesaurus
Oct 3, 2004


NintyFresh posted:

Education also still has a hiring freeze in place despite the lift.

wtf, are State an Education keeping the freeze because tillerson and devos are hell bent on destroying their agencies to please their dark master?

control of my agency ia more diffuse, so we don't have to worry as much about some heinous director opposed to our existence

jiffypop45
Dec 30, 2011

Anyone have to deal with a lifestyle poly? Just found out the job I'm working on requires a lifestyle and CI in addition to the TS/sci I already have.

Online resources make them out to the worst possible things imaginable.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

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TOVA TOVA TOVA

jiffypop45 posted:

Anyone have to deal with a lifestyle poly? Just found out the job I'm working on requires a lifestyle and CI in addition to the TS/sci I already have.

Online resources make them out to the worst possible things imaginable.
There are a lot of good resources out there for figuring out the poly lifestyle, though what you are going to w

...

oh

Wow. That is even more terrifying.

I kind of thought those particular tests were as much imagined for television as things that might really happen to you.

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Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!
Wow I just looked those up and those sound like absolute hell.

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