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Captain Internet posted:Exactly! Which is why it is Dubnyk's trophy to lose. I mean, my takeaway is that Lehtonen is potentially a halfway decent goalie 80% of the time, he's just saddled with what might be bottom-3 defense league wide. I don't know how to reconcile the fact he regularly flubs routine saves.
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Feb 22, 2017 00:23
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Aphrodite posted:What the hell is fenwick save percentage? ([sv% - (pk shot attempts / ev shot attempts)] - [shots + (missed shots / blocked shots)^2]) * 100
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Feb 22, 2017 00:46
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Zodijackylite posted:It's tough to see him get hurt and never get his game back 100%. He seemed like a really good team/room guy from what the Leafs said about him last year, he was always a pretty good PKer, and he even seemed to handle his diminished role pretty well. Seems like he did all the right things to transition to the "beloved veteran" role. I wonder if an injury-riddled team like Ottawa might pick him up to have a guy who plays few minute and PKs but handles the role well, and won't be salty when he ends up a healthy scratch later. Unfortunately, you know Ottawa's too cheap to do that even if they have the cap space. He was the one who would organize the warm-up shoot-around and collected the pucks afterward, sure sign of a good guy!
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Feb 22, 2017 00:57
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Gio posted:([sv% - (pk shot attempts / ev shot attempts)] - [shots + (missed shots / blocked shots)^2]) * 100 Oh, makes sense.
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Feb 22, 2017 01:04
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The corsisupplied 5v5 evenstrength fenwickicky saves above replacement score says Kari Lehtonen is the 2nd best goalie in the league. Surely, I have been wrong all these years and this is not a hosed up stat.
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Feb 22, 2017 01:19
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Fenwick sv% just includes missed shots (but not blocked) as part of sv%. I'd assume those numbers are also at ES but maybe not. Worth noting that the only labelled axis is FSv% but the chart is labelled as that and expected goals saved. I'm assuming Lehtonen's red circle is a bad thing and means he lets in more goals than expected but has a good FSv%, basically meaning that the Stars give up a ton of missed shots but the ones on net go in more often than they should. So Lehtonen is overworked but also bad. If that seems like a stupid way to organize the data and misleading/dumb welcome to most charts posted on Twitter.
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Feb 22, 2017 01:20
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https://youtu.be/IRsPheErBj8
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Feb 22, 2017 01:22
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Some people think working in data viz is cool 
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Feb 22, 2017 01:26
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Feb 22, 2017 01:28
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both axes are using above expected metrics so it's a really stupid way of comparing goalies to themselves and then lining them up against the rest of the league. so congrats to holtby and the caps for being better than himself than the rest of the league
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Feb 22, 2017 01:42
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so with the news that the Lakers are about to get ruined by Magic Johnson for the indeterminate future, I was thinking about former franchise greats who came back to drive their franchise down down down. the obvious one is Linden in Vancouver, I'd say Neely in Boston is on his way, and that's about it for current ones. who else has done this?
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Feb 22, 2017 02:31
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Every current Red Wings player in Detroit.
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Feb 22, 2017 02:34
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Aye Doc posted:so with the news that the Lakers are about to get ruined by Magic Johnson for the indeterminate future, I was thinking about former franchise greats who came back to drive their franchise down down down. the obvious one is Linden in Vancouver, I'd say Neely in Boston is on his way, and that's about it for current ones. who else has done this? gretzky and roy
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Feb 22, 2017 02:37
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hifi posted:gretzky and roy i think sakic is a better choice than roy e: and of course, oates & washington. and hopefully soon, oates & boston
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Feb 22, 2017 02:41
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and soon, Milbury & Boston
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Feb 22, 2017 02:44
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Actually teams with good coaches, like the undefeated Bruce Cassidy, don't need to hire new coaches.
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Sharks Eat Bear posted:i think sakic is a better choice than roy What does hall think about that though?
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Feb 22, 2017 03:00
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Aphrodite posted:Actually teams with good coaches, like the undefeated Bruce Cassidy, don't need to hire new coaches. he needs an opportunity to flesh out his coaching staff fresh, starting with goaltending and defensive coach oates and forwards and powerplay coach milbury
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Feb 22, 2017 03:04
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Aye Doc posted:so with the news that the Lakers are about to get ruined by Magic Johnson for the indeterminate future, I was thinking about former franchise greats who came back to drive their franchise down down down. the obvious one is Linden in Vancouver, I'd say Neely in Boston is on his way, and that's about it for current ones. who else has done this?
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Feb 22, 2017 03:07
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Aye Doc posted:so with the news that the Lakers are about to get ruined by Magic Johnson for the indeterminate future, I was thinking about former franchise greats who came back to drive their franchise down down down. the obvious one is Linden in Vancouver, I'd say Neely in Boston is on his way, and that's about it for current ones. who else has done this? Can Sakic be blamed for the tire fire in Colorado?
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Feb 22, 2017 03:18
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Aye Doc posted:so with the news that the Lakers are about to get ruined by Magic Johnson for the indeterminate future, I was thinking about former franchise greats who came back to drive their franchise down down down. the obvious one is Linden in Vancouver, I'd say Neely in Boston is on his way, and that's about it for current ones. who else has done this? I don't think you can count Boston in there, didn't they win a cup and have had several good years under him? Also, every ex-Habs player who have come back to the team.
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Feb 22, 2017 03:23
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CDX posted:Also, every ex-Habs player who have come back to the team. Serge Savard was a good GM.
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Feb 22, 2017 03:27
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Suspicious posted:Serge Savard was a good GM. Rejean houle and Tremblay on the other hand...
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Feb 22, 2017 03:59
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stab posted:Rejean houle and Tremblay on the other hand... And Bob Gainey.
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Feb 22, 2017 04:03
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Dale Hunter AND Adam Oates.
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Feb 22, 2017 04:05
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glynnenstein posted:Dale Hunter AND Adam Oates. Bad bad bad bad! loving bad. loving bad! loving. Bad.
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Feb 22, 2017 04:07
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Ken Holland's professional hockey career lasted 4 games, 3 of which were with The Detroit Red Wings Professional Hockey Club Of The National Hockey League
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Feb 22, 2017 04:12
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Isn't Olaf Kolzig doing stuff (or has done stuff) in the background for the Caps? He's always been cool and chill.
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Feb 22, 2017 04:13
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Pancakes by Mail posted:And Bob Gainey. He did draft Subban and Price though Gomez 
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Feb 22, 2017 04:13
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stab posted:He did draft Subban and Price though Patches then too
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Feb 22, 2017 04:29
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It's amazing how eloquent Julien sounds compared to Therrien, in both English and French.
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Feb 22, 2017 04:34
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I missed the second game .. I'm 0-2 for watching Julien games for personal reasons, but a vendor is trying to butter me up getting me to buy his poo poo so I might be getting an invite to their box at ACC for the game vs Leafs on Saturday. How did they look today?
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Feb 22, 2017 04:36
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Cartoon Man posted:Isn't Olaf Kolzig doing stuff (or has done stuff) in the background for the Caps? He's always been cool and chill. Olie's a development coach, and two other... uh... franchise greats Matt Bradley and Brian Sutherby are scouts.
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Feb 22, 2017 04:36
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CDX posted:I don't think you can count Boston in there, didn't they win a cup and have had several good years under him? Hard to say. He didnt become president until 2010. He was in a management role starting in 2007 but who knows what his contribution was towards building that cup roster. Probably minimal.
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Feb 22, 2017 05:25
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CBJSprague24 posted:Can Sakic be blamed for the tire fire in Colorado? Oh hell yes. I for one am shocked that the ability to play a professional sport at a high level. doesn't translate into the ability to manage a professional sports franchise. It's well know that the best programmers make the best project managers.
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Feb 22, 2017 05:31
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Martytoof posted:I missed the second game .. I'm 0-2 for watching Julien games for personal reasons, but a vendor is trying to butter me up getting me to buy his poo poo so I might be getting an invite to their box at ACC for the game vs Leafs on Saturday. Pretty good. Aggressive on the PK, had some good o-zone possession. A few ugly defensive lapses (gave up two beautiful breakaways) but I was pretty happy overall. Fancystats were pretty strong too, something like 55% score adjusted Corsi e: It was a rare "Price was amazing but that wasn't the sole reason they won" game Pancakes by Mail fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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Feb 22, 2017 05:49
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Teemu Pokemon posted:Ken Holland's professional hockey career lasted 4 games, 3 of which were with The Detroit Red Wings Professional Hockey Club Of The National Hockey League Absolutely counts
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Feb 22, 2017 06:01
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Koopa Kid posted:Marner was due back tonight, but instead the Leafs put him on IR and have recalled Frederick Gauthier. Which is Extremely Bad, congrats on the win tonight Jets fans. So this didn't quite play out this way but it's still bad Martytoof posted:I missed the second game .. I'm 0-2 for watching Julien games for personal reasons, but a vendor is trying to butter me up getting me to buy his poo poo so I might be getting an invite to their box at ACC for the game vs Leafs on Saturday. Like a team full of talented teenagers that don't know how to play defense, so basically like every other game FakeEdit: oh you meant the Habs Didn't Wendell Clark have some role with the leafs org for a while?
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Lots of teams just hire former stars for cushy jobs so they can pal around with corporate sponsors, attend celebrity golf games with team branded equipment and maybe offer guidance to the rookies.
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