Pokemon Uranium is not a very good game.

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Jen X: Sep 29, 2014; To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.

It's entirely because of the whole carp->dragon myth thing, I think.

I imagine there wasn't quite as intentional or interesting an origin for most of uranium's brood

# ? Feb 22, 2017 02:35

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# ? May 14, 2024 00:50

the holy poopacy: May 16, 2009; hey! check this out; Fun Shoe

GeneX posted:

It's entirely because of the whole carp->dragon myth thing, I think.

I imagine there wasn't quite as intentional or interesting an origin for most of uranium's brood

Someone has never heard of the "weird dumb brown ball with a face wearing a helmet with ears that has a spring sticking out of the top that might supposed to be a bomb but who the gently caress can tell let alone why" myth before.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 02:38

Shugojin: Sep 6, 2007; THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...

GeneX posted:

It's entirely because of the whole carp->dragon myth thing, I think.

I imagine there wasn't quite as intentional or interesting an origin for most of uranium's brood

I think it's a little that and a little "hey this is a bit of a pain in the rear end but if you level up this literally helpless fish critter you get a totally cool dragon"

# ? Feb 22, 2017 03:15

Zuzie: Jun 30, 2005; I got this for a Ratatta on GTS.

Zore posted:

It looks like a roided clown on the brink of death. Its one of the only pokemon I find really repulsive (along with Stantler, Tympole, Mr. Mime and loving Diggersby)

I always thought of the Conkeldurr family as overly muscular dogfaces (the kind of non-human humanoid species Goofy is supposed to be). Also what do you have against Stantler? I mean its boring as all sin, but "repulsive" isn't the first word that comes to mind.

Also if I had to redesign that iron ball thing, I'd make it a pure Steel type and have it resemble an actual iron ball and chain, spikes are optional. We have so few pure Steel types as it is so having that would make it stand out in that aspect.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 03:22

Hammurabi: Nov 4, 2009

I just looked up the tympole line on bulbapedia :barf:

Jesus christ what an awful design

# ? Feb 22, 2017 05:04

Cattail Prophet: Apr 12, 2014

Fomantis and Lurantis' types make perfect sense because they're just flower mantises in reverse; instead of an insect mimicking a plant they're a plant mimicking an insect.

Also there is only one line of real pokemon whose designs I actively dislike, and their names are swirlix and slurpuff.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 05:26

Spatula City: Oct 21, 2010; LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING

CoffeeAvenger posted:

I actually don't mind most canon pokemon designs, but there's no excuse for Bruxish. It's like Lisa Frank exploded on a humuhumu and gave it nightmarish teeth.

I fail to understand how this is a bad thing. Bruxish is FABULOUS. It's a garishly colored psychic fish with sharp teeth. It's deliberately ugly. It isn't my favorite Gen VII design, but it's solidly in the middle of the pack.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 05:31

AfroSquirrel: Sep 3, 2011

I like Altaria. Fluffy bird looks like the definition of Normal/Flying, nope SURPRISE DRAGON.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 05:38

PoptartsNinja: May 9, 2008; He is still almost definitely not a spy; Soiled Meat

Cattail Prophet posted:

Fomantis and Lurantis' types make perfect sense because they're just flower mantises in reverse; instead of an insect mimicking a plant they're a plant mimicking an insect.

Fomantis and Lurantis are also loving adorable.

Instead of being orchid mantises, they're mantis orchids!

PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Feb 22, 2017

# ? Feb 22, 2017 05:43

Trick Question: Apr 9, 2007

Spatula City posted:

I fail to understand how this is a bad thing. Bruxish is FABULOUS. It's a garishly colored psychic fish with sharp teeth. It's deliberately ugly. It isn't my favorite Gen VII design, but it's solidly in the middle of the pack.

Same, I love Bruxish. He looks like he came straight out of a psychedelic 60s cartoon.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 09:56

Crazy Achmed: Mar 13, 2001

Wait, is owten an owl kitten thing? Because that's adorable. I bet they gently caress up the evolution though.

As far as difficulty in pokemon games goes, I discovered that playing as a gimmick team of all one type is a pretty interesting way to make the games more challenging without being bullshit. Sure, it's not too hard to get through the game if you have a well-balanced team set up to deal with any given type, but trying to make an all-steel (or steel/whatever) team work was difficult but really fun. I haven't played any of the games in ages, but next time I pick one up I figure I'll pick a type that isn't already taken by a gym/boss.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 10:48

EclecticTastes: Sep 17, 2012; "Most plans are critically flawed by their own logic. A failure at any step will ruin everything after it. That's just basic cause and effect. It's easy for a good plan to fall apart. Therefore, a plan that has no attachment to logic cannot be stopped."

PoptartsNinja posted:

Fomantis and Lurantis are also loving adorable.

Instead of being orchid mantises, they're mantis orchids!

I love how Fomantis is basically krumping in its idle animation, it's fantastic.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 12:54

ChaosArgate: Oct 10, 2012; Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Crazy Achmed posted:

Wait, is owten an owl kitten thing? Because that's adorable. I bet they gently caress up the evolution though.

As far as difficulty in pokemon games goes, I discovered that playing as a gimmick team of all one type is a pretty interesting way to make the games more challenging without being bullshit. Sure, it's not too hard to get through the game if you have a well-balanced team set up to deal with any given type, but trying to make an all-steel (or steel/whatever) team work was difficult but really fun. I haven't played any of the games in ages, but next time I pick one up I figure I'll pick a type that isn't already taken by a gym/boss.

Just don't play S&M with mono-ghost or mono-psychic. Lots of things end up packing Crunch or Sucker Punch.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 15:27

thefailtrain: Apr 4, 2011; Counterpoint: More pink.

ChaosArgate posted:

Just don't play S&M with mono-ghost or mono-psychic. Lots of things end up packing Crunch or Sucker Punch.

Mono-ghost has been tough for a while. Ghost types just pay so hard for their two immunities because so many of the Pokemon you'd use them on to take advantage of that get Crunch or other dark type moves.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 18:28

poorlywrittennovel: Oct 9, 2012

Playing Sun and Moon with a mono-ghost team is literally the only time an Ariados will ever be threatening. I learned that the hard way.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 18:33

mandatory lesbian: Dec 18, 2012

Crazy Achmed posted:

Wait, is owten an owl kitten thing? Because that's adorable. I bet they gently caress up the evolution though.

As far as difficulty in pokemon games goes, I discovered that playing as a gimmick team of all one type is a pretty interesting way to make the games more challenging without being bullshit. Sure, it's not too hard to get through the game if you have a well-balanced team set up to deal with any given type, but trying to make an all-steel (or steel/whatever) team work was difficult but really fun. I haven't played any of the games in ages, but next time I pick one up I figure I'll pick a type that isn't already taken by a gym/boss.

try all dark in Gen 2, weep when the first dark type isn't until just before the final gym

# ? Feb 22, 2017 18:37

mandatory lesbian: Dec 18, 2012

well OKAY technically the eevee you get can become umbreon but that's still a good ways in

# ? Feb 22, 2017 18:39

inthesto: May 12, 2010; Pro is an amazing name!

I tried to do mono-poison in gen 1

Take a wild guess where I got stonewalled

# ? Feb 22, 2017 18:43

EclecticTastes: Sep 17, 2012; "Most plans are critically flawed by their own logic. A failure at any step will ruin everything after it. That's just basic cause and effect. It's easy for a good plan to fall apart. Therefore, a plan that has no attachment to logic cannot be stopped."

thefailtrain posted:

Mono-ghost has been tough for a while. Ghost types just pay so hard for their two immunities because so many of the Pokemon you'd use them on to take advantage of that get Crunch or other dark type moves.

Maybe it's just me, but despite Ghost being my favorite type, I've never been a fan of pure Ghosts. Their movesets usually leave something to be desired, and the only one with a particularly appealing visual design, at least for me, is Cofagrigus. The Ghost/Darks haven't really wowed me, either. But every other Ghost subtype results in pretty rad-looking Pokemon with really nice, satisfying move pools (it helps that Shadow Ball is a standard TM, also Sludge Bomb/Wave for my boy Gengar).

# ? Feb 22, 2017 18:44

mandatory lesbian: Dec 18, 2012

inthesto posted:

I tried to do mono-poison in gen 1

Take a wild guess where I got stonewalled

Brock's gym bc all you had was beedril

unless this was yellow where Nidoran can get Double Kick fairly quickly

# ? Feb 22, 2017 18:55

Lord Koth: Jan 8, 2012

Probably one of the more surprising and unpleasant (to run into) additions to S&M that you'll encounter early is the Machop line getting Knock Off at lvl 21. Knock Off of course being a physical Dark-type move, where previously the only moves the line learned were either Fighting or Normal. The line also gets a physical Dragon move now as well.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 18:56

Hammurabi: Nov 4, 2009

mandatory lesbian posted:

Brock's gym bc all you had was beedril

unless this was yellow where Nidoran can get Double Kick fairly quickly

Even if it wasn't yellow you could still just use Nidoran. Or powerlevel up to Nidoking if you really have to (you shouldn't).

# ? Feb 22, 2017 19:53

WrightOfWay: Jul 24, 2010

Hammurabi posted:

Even if it wasn't yellow you could still just use Nidoran. Or powerlevel up to Nidoking if you really have to (you shouldn't).

Nidoran gets Double Kick at 43 in Red and Blue. You can power through with resisted Horn Attacks but you would have to do a shitload of grinding first.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 19:58

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WrightOfWay posted:

Nidoran gets Double Kick at 43 in Red and Blue. You can power through with resisted Horn Attacks but you would have to do a shitload of grinding first.

Reminds me of playing Yellow. My first time fighting Brock I levelled Pikachu until it learned (I think) Quick Attack and just chiselled away at Onyx for ages.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:06

Malachite_Dragon: Mar 31, 2010; Weaving Merry Christmas magic

A tiny electric mouse headbutting a stone snake, forever

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:12

mandatory lesbian: Dec 18, 2012

Hammurabi posted:

Even if it wasn't yellow you could still just use Nidoran. Or powerlevel up to Nidoking if you really have to (you shouldn't).

the key words in my post were fairly quickly, leveling to 43 in red or blue is not gonna go fast before the first gym

BioEnchanted posted:

Reminds me of playing Yellow. My first time fighting Brock I levelled Pikachu until it learned (I think) Quick Attack and just chiselled away at Onyx for ages.

thats what i did my first time playing...good times

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:12

KataraniSword: Apr 22, 2008; but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

Malachite_Dragon posted:

A tiny electric mouse headbutting a stone snake, forever

If only Onix had a horn Pikachu could aim for.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:13

Manatee Cannon: Aug 26, 2010

I always had a butterfry for onix when I was using charmander

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:14

Dr. Dos: Aug 5, 2005; YAAAAAAAY!

Mr. Vile posted:

To be fair, one of my real pet peeves about the later pokemon games is that they really dropped the ball on making it instantly apparent what type a given pokemon is. Take a glance at, say, Golem and you can tell that it's rock type. There are exceptions, but for the most part you can tell the typing from a glance at the sprite. In the later gens there are some sprites that I have absolutely no idea on, with Florges, Dhlemise and Fomantis/Lurantis being particularly bad offenders. And as for the ultra beasts, how is this grass type, this flying type and this a goddamn rock/poison type?

Flygon is my favorite Flying/Bug/Grass/Dragon type.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:46

Mr. Vile: Nov 25, 2009; And, where there is treasure, there will be Air Pirates.

Dr. Dos posted:

Flygon is my favorite Flying/Bug/Grass/Dragon type.

I forgot about Flygon and how much it annoys me :argh:

.

I really like bug types so it annoys me endlessly that two of the coolest looking ones are secretly not bug types at all.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 21:13

SkyTalon2314: Aug 8, 2013

EclecticTastes posted:

Maybe it's just me, but despite Ghost being my favorite type, I've never been a fan of pure Ghosts. Their movesets usually leave something to be desired, and the only one with a particularly appealing visual design, at least for me, is Cofagrigus. The Ghost/Darks haven't really wowed me, either. But every other Ghost subtype results in pretty rad-looking Pokemon with really nice, satisfying move pools (it helps that Shadow Ball is a standard TM, also Sludge Bomb/Wave for my boy Gengar).

I'm largely in the same boat, TBH. Though I do like Mismagius, most of my favorite ghosts are double typed, like Mimikyu, Delmhise, Chandelure, etc..

# ? Feb 22, 2017 21:14

PoptartsNinja: May 9, 2008; He is still almost definitely not a spy; Soiled Meat

KataraniSword posted:

If only Onix had a horn Pikachu could aim for.

Or could zap a sprinkler system to get Onix a little moist, turning it into a water type. I'm 99% sure that's why the move 'soak' exists.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 21:18

Araxxor: Oct 20, 2012; My disdain for you all knows no bounds.

It does feel like in some cases a Pokemon should have more than 2 types, but due to technical and design limitations, that can't happen. Of course at this point, rebalancing and reprogramming the game to account for more than 2 types on a Pokemon would be an utter nightmare.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 21:21

Alacron: Feb 15, 2007; -->Have tearful reunion with your son
-->Eh; Fun Shoe

If they keep the Regional Forms concept beyond Sun & Moon then we could eventually see a bug type Flygon. Here's hoping they don't more or less drop it like they did with Mega Evolution.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 21:26

the holy poopacy: May 16, 2009; hey! check this out; Fun Shoe

Dr. Fetus posted:

It does feel like in some cases a Pokemon should have more than 2 types, but due to technical and design limitations, that can't happen. Of course at this point, rebalancing and reprogramming the game to account for more than 2 types on a Pokemon would be an utter nightmare.

Since Gen 6 there's been engine support for triple-typed mons due to type modifying moves, but I think the conceptual overhead of having to filter everything through 3-4 layers of typing would probably be worse than just arbitrarily picking 2 types for something that looks like it should have a 3rd. Also, abilities like Steelworker or Levitate can already give a mon a simplified version of a 3rd type, which is probably a better solution for most situations.

Alacron posted:

Here's hoping they don't more or less drop it like they every single feature since the dawn of time

fixed it

the holy poopacy fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Feb 22, 2017

# ? Feb 22, 2017 21:26

KataraniSword: Apr 22, 2008; but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

Straight White Shark posted:

Alacron posted:
Here's hoping they don't more or less drop it like they every single feature since the dawn of time

Hey now! They kept Pokemon Amie and infinite-use TMs.

And... uh... contests, for whatever reason, though only sometimes.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 21:37

Classy Hydra: Oct 30, 2011; You did wrong, Jack,
rest your soul.

Dr. Fetus posted:

It does feel like in some cases a Pokemon should have more than 2 types, but due to technical and design limitations, that can't happen. Of course at this point, rebalancing and reprogramming the game to account for more than 2 types on a Pokemon would be an utter nightmare.

There have been small overtures to triple-types here and there, with things like Steelworker granting Steel-STAB to a non-Steel type and Dry Skin granting an additional weakness (opening up the potential for a x6 damage modifier in certain cases).

I imagine they'll continue somewhat in that vein, where abilities are used to substitute for elements of a third type.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 21:53

Orange Fluffy Sheep: Jul 26, 2008; Bad EXP received

Uranium has a Pokemon with five STABs.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 22:04

Caerthir: Jan 21, 2013

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

Uranium has a Pokemon with five STABs.

Wait what? How is that.......what??? That's just ridiculous.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 22:12

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# ? May 14, 2024 00:50

BioEnchanted: Aug 9, 2011; He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.

I wanna see a trainer with nothing but magikarps and a small paddling pool. Before a bout he'd fill the pool, get Magikarp to splash so that the rock-type opponent is soaking wet, then just walk up and punch out the onyx. Hell, it worked with Meowth in the anime - took out a rock type using two buckets of water that he threw at it. "WATER SPIN! :byodood:

# ? Feb 22, 2017 22:13

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