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Nessus posted:I don't think it's inconsistent for Starfleet to treat the wormhole aliens are powerful and enigmatic wormhole aliens rather than actual religious figures. Even if the Bajoran religion IS correct by random chance, the Prophets are still competing for mindspace with Q, Kevin Uxbridge, that dude from the Squire of Gothos, Lucien, Apollo, Abraham Lincoln, that slinky chick who was going to claim a planet, that THING Spock killed with a Bird of Prey's dual heavy cannons, V'ger, the whale probe, and that dude who made a giant Spock. Kevin Uxbridge just wants to be left alone with his dolls.
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Bucswabe posted:I think I once counted at least 8 separate times that data took over the enterprise or his abilities posed a grave threat to the crew. I think I'd be terrified of Data if I were another crew member. He's so effective at taking over absolutely everything in that episode where Soong calls him home.
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MrJacobs posted:It's a good thing "Measure of a Man" took place in season 2 instead of season 7. Data would have been sent to be dissected just so they knew why he kept trying to kill the crew. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7jbP1_H9sA
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Tunicate posted:It's pretty simple. My favorite part of this edit is Riker.
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Timby posted:the take of the "this far, no further" speech that was used in one of the trailers is so, so, so much better. That's more a complaint for the editor, not the director. I doubt Frakes had a lot of say in the editing room. Also, I confess I love A Night in Sickbay, only becuas eI hate Archer and this episode encapsulates why he should have been shoved out of the airlock in ep 1.
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PassTheRemote posted:That's more a complaint for the editor, not the director. I doubt Frakes had a lot of say in the editing room. Archer has two modes: Boring Ship Dad, and Petulant Manbaby. The latter seems to come up most with the Vulcans, and apparently with his dog. "A Night in Sickbay" makes Archer out to be the type of dog owner that I can't stand: the kind that expects the world to bend over backward for their dumbass dog, against all reason and common sense.
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Railing Kill posted:Archer has two modes: Boring Ship Dad, and Petulant Manbaby. The latter seems to come up most with the Vulcans, and apparently with his dog. "A Night in Sickbay" makes Archer out to be the type of dog owner that I can't stand: the kind that expects the world to bend over backward for their dumbass dog, against all reason and common sense. You know, it wasn't until the second sentence that I twigged you weren't talking about Sterling Archer.
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The_Doctor posted:You know, it wasn't until the second sentence that I twigged you weren't talking about Sterling Archer. Sterling Archer would have that fuckin puma or whatever wandering all over the ship mauling people. It would be great.
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Railing Kill posted:Archer has two modes: Boring Ship Dad, and Petulant Manbaby. The latter seems to come up most with the Vulcans, and apparently with his dog. "A Night in Sickbay" makes Archer out to be the type of dog owner that I can't stand: the kind that expects the world to bend over backward for their dumbass dog, against all reason and common sense. Especially since that ep was not the firs time they were dealing with the race of triggered autists and because Archer is a terrible man-baby cause he wanted to go into space to show Vulcans he can wear the big boy pants, they have no spare parts and must get this part form the triggered autists. Also, this ep states Archer is a trained diplomat, which is hilarious.
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Jonathan Archer is many things, but I wouldn't even allow the word diplomatic to be spoken in his vicinity, lest it be sullied.
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Railing Kill posted:Archer has two modes: Boring Ship Dad, and Petulant Manbaby. The latter seems to come up most with the Vulcans, and apparently with his dog. "A Night in Sickbay" makes Archer out to be the type of dog owner that I can't stand: the kind that expects the world to bend over backward for their dumbass dog, against all reason and common sense. I bet he lets it poop everywhere and expects the poop fairy to whisk it away too. loving hate having to walk around the area around my work like a minefield because of everyone deserves to have their precious doggo and the world is their toilet. The poop fairy wasn't even invented until just before Picard's day. So immersion breaking 
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PassTheRemote posted:Especially since that ep was not the firs time they were dealing with the race of triggered autists and because Archer is a terrible man-baby cause he wanted to go into space to show Vulcans he can wear the big boy pants, they have no spare parts and must get this part form the triggered autists. They needed stuff to cure a plague on another planet, so rather than make a simple exchange and let his dog hang out on plaugeworld where dogs would probably be immune to alien disease, he brings him down for a quick talk before a parts exchange because Archer is a loving idiot.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I still say that if Starfleet drummed out every person who ever got mind-influenced by some alien, they'd have a hell of a time keeping their ships manned. The post-Nemesis Trek books are actually pretty decent for kid-lit.
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Christ, in my DS9 watch through, Bashir's parents have turned up. This is hard going, his dad reminds me too much of my own dad when he's being argumentative.
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The_Doctor posted:Christ, in my DS9 watch through, Bashir's parents have turned up. This is hard going, his dad reminds me too much of my own dad when he's being argumentative. Well, hopefully you are not a genetically-engineered crime against the natural order.
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dont even fink about it posted:Well, hopefully you are not a genetically-engineered crime against the natural order. I'm gay? v  v
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The_Doctor posted:I'm gay? v As long as you are not superhumanly gay.
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Being gay is just a natural result of the chemicals They put in the water.
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WickedHate posted:Being gay is just a natural result of the chemicals They put in the water. I did prefer drinking water over soda as a child. 🤔
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dont even fink about it posted:As long as you are not superhumanly gay. Superior homosexuality breeds superior fabulousness. A lesson we would do well to recall.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:It would make more sense for them to take the approach of "okay sure, we believe you when you say they told you this, but how do we know they're not trying to play us here?" Yeah if Starfleet had questioned the Wormhole Aliens' motives and Sisko's objectivity it would have made more sense and been a better more complicated conflict than just forgetting time travel and clairvoyance are fairly ordinary phenomena whenever the Wormhole Aliens come up. PostNouveau posted:I think I'd be terrified of Data if I were another crew member. He's so effective at taking over absolutely everything in that episode where Soong calls him home. I'd be more afraid that Starfleet's incomprehensibly lax security is going to get me killed. Voice synthesizers are common toys in the Federation, and you can take over and lockout the ship with nothing more than that? You don't need a positronic brain making billions of calculations per second: loving Kevin from Home Alone 2 could take over the Enterprise.
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VitalSigns posted:You don't need a positronic brain making billions of calculations per second: loving Kevin from Home Alone 2 could take over the Enterprise. loving greenlight this.
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VitalSigns posted:I'd be more afraid that Starfleet's incomprehensibly lax security is going to get me killed. Voice synthesizers are common toys in the Federation, and you can take over and lockout the ship with nothing more than that? You don't need a positronic brain making billions of calculations per second: loving Kevin from Home Alone 2 could take over the Enterprise. Similarly, in a universe with hostile aliens, invisible space ships and transporters it seems like it should violate some security protocol or other to not have your shields up at all times.
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I like how Bashir's mom wasn't even played by an actress but just some random lady.
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Echo Chamber posted:I like how Bashir's mom wasn't even played by an actress but just some random lady. Holy poo poo http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Fadwa_El_Guindi I thought she did fine.
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Baronjutter posted:Holy poo poo Don't you need a SAG card to have speaking roles?
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tasslex posted:Trek Book Talk, but there is a fun bit in one of the recent books where we're told there is an entire facility on Betazed with therapists that help Starfleet officers get over being controlled/inhabited/assimilated/etc that you only ever know about if it happens to you. So in other words, everyone knows about it?
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PostNouveau posted:I think I'd be terrified of Data if I were another crew member. He's so effective at taking over absolutely everything in that episode where Soong calls him home. Surely that's balanced out by situations where he saves the entire ship since he's the only one immune to the stun ray or whatever. I'd be really glad when I randomly pass out due to an alien attack and I wake up to Data helping me off the ground. "Thanks Data!"
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Considering how many times something like that happens, you start to wonder how the other ships in the fleet survive without an android or a hologram or a Borg or whatever on board. Actually that would have been a good Enterprise arc for how the original Federation got together. Turns out each of the founding members is immune to some class of weirdo space anomaly and they're like "it would make more sense if we all served on the same exploration missions, also let's I wonder if Starfleet has diversity requirements for that reason. You've got to have so many humans in case you encounter Trellium-D. So many Vulcans in case you run into mind control. So many artificial life forms in case of superplague. So many El-Aurians in case the timeline fucks up. So many betazoids in case other telepaths are bad at communicating without driving you crazy. So many Tellarites in case...uh....you're infiltrated by a hard-to-find alien truffle species. And so on.
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VitalSigns posted:Considering how many times something like that happens, you start to wonder how the other ships in the fleet survive without an android or a hologram or a Borg or whatever on board. That makes perfect sense and I'm surprised they didn't explicitly state this as a reason for it. It's like RPG party comp writ large.
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I'm rewatching Babylon 5 and I can't believe I never noticed that G'kar has a human fetish.
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VitalSigns posted:I wonder if Starfleet has diversity requirements for that reason. You've got to have so many humans in case you encounter Trellium-D. So many Vulcans in case you run into mind control. So many artificial life forms in case of superplague. So many El-Aurians in case the timeline fucks up. So many betazoids in case other telepaths are bad at communicating without driving you crazy. So many Tellarites in case...uh....you're infiltrated by a hard-to-find alien truffle species. And so on. Someday the Enterprise will run into something that incapacitates everyone except Bolians. Then it's up to the ship's barbers to save the day.
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In the next exciting episoide... The Bolian Weave!
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Beachcomber posted:I'm rewatching Babylon 5 and I can't believe I never noticed that G'kar has a human fetish. My memories of G'kar make me want to rewatch Babylon 5 but I'm worried it won't hold up.
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