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Safety Factor posted:Fair enough. I'll be running Ironwing eventually and I was wondering if a dual kheres contemptor would be worth it. All dreadnoughts get Tank Hunter (and Fear The only complaints I have about constructing the kit is that my kit seemed to be from the tail end of the batch - some of the fittings like the sockets for the thruster cones had these 'growths' of excess resin, like the molds had had tears in them. Design-wise the only problem I had is that the resin flow gates for the engine pods are pretty big and in a stupid location, so you need to be extra careful with those. That in mind it took me about an hour to slap mine together with minimal coaxing. Also, a dual kheres contemptor is a) cool as poo poo, b) thoroughly amusing to play, and c) all sorts of flexible, especially if you make it a Mortis Kheres (and the only reason you wouldn't want to make it a Mortis is if you wanted a talon of the fuckers). It's a little short-ranged but 12 rending shots at BS5 will make most targets sit up and take notice - that many shots will mince most infantry squads and just the sheer volume of fire means you'll generally be able to take out light to medium vehicles easily, too. Also makes a 24" bubble of 'gently caress you, no, don't even think of bringing that flier over here'.
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ijyt posted:I asked in the Slack but: what's a legion that'd work well with 50 MkIV dudes, 6 jetbikes and a bunch of drop pods? Would prefer not to do Alpha Legion anymore and can't really decide on a legion (not Ultramarines). Tempted to go Night Lords. Sons of Horus would be my choice. In fact that's what I'm putting together after my Fist list is finished.
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OMG sriracha pudding! posted:What would a fun White Scars list look like? Lots of Outriders and ??? Jetbikes, attack bikes, javelins and speeders.
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ijyt posted:I asked in the Slack but: what's a legion that'd work well with 50 MkIV dudes, 6 jetbikes and a bunch of drop pods? Would prefer not to do Alpha Legion anymore and can't really decide on a legion (not Ultramarines). Tempted to go Night Lords. III Legion.
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adamantium|wang posted:III Legion. If I can find a good purple then thats a potential option. Seems like it's looking more and more likely that I'll just have to do a bunch of testers.
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krursk posted:Sons of Horus would be my choice. In fact that's what I'm putting together after my Fist list is finished. Ditto this. Sons of Horus seem to work well as Drop Pod armies. I actually just picked up some "Sons of Horus Green" and "Lupercal Green" to start playing around with making a SoH Orbital Assault list.
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adamantium|wang posted:III Legion. Emperor's Children are a buncha chumps and Eidolon's got a stupid Skrillex haircut 3 years too late for it to be cool anymore.
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So I'm getting into the character series and I'm wondering how much clean up I'm going to have to do compared to the bigger kits. I've built a bunch of the older IG lines, has Forge World cleaned up their casting process since then?
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Lord Twisted posted:I'm thinking in the longer term of maybe pulling the trigger on a Warhound (Inferno/Plasma) - anyone built one? How can you run them in 30k? I have Astartes forces if that helps. Paging Hixson. Come in Hixson, over
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Immanentized posted:So I'm getting into the character series and I'm wondering how much clean up I'm going to have to do compared to the bigger kits. I've built a bunch of the older IG lines, has Forge World cleaned up their casting process since then? I barely had to clean up Guilliman at all, just snip him off the sprues. His base was slightly warped but nothing too bad.
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SRM posted:I barely had to clean up Guilliman at all, just snip him off the sprues. His base was slightly warped but nothing too bad. Glad to hear, since I'm starting with his model. Speaking of the base- are there any solid resources on how to do the marble effect? Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Does Forgeworld have a set price for Americans or do you simply convert dollars to pounds when paying? Auto converts through the payment portal. You only see pounds, but your CC statement reflects the USD Amount Immanentized fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Feb 21, 2017 |
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Immanentized posted:Glad to hear, since I'm starting with his model. Speaking of the base- are there any solid resources on how to do the marble effect? I tried the Warhammer TV one and it came out real bad for me, but it might be better for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0pGumGvczc I had to strip it and then redo it and I went with a technique centered around stippling and the results were pretty good, I can't find the tutorial I used right now, but once the varnish dries I'll post a picture.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Does Forgeworld have a set price for Americans or do you simply convert dollars to pounds when paying? We pay in pounds. The credit card company does the conversion automatically, usually at a slightly worse rate (go figure.) If Forgeworld is at a US event, they charge in USD, using some obscure formula that is sometimes worse than buying direct from the UK plus shipping. I'm not sure how they manage that.
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Thanks, that's what I thought but my LGS' owner ordered a couple Might Zug to sell along with his personal order and was charging $45 apiece for them.
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berzerkmonkey posted:The credit card company does the conversion automatically, usually at a slightly worse rate (go figure.) What imprint are you using? I've been in the CC industry for about 5 years now and have never heard of any of the big 3 doing this outside of some sketchy issuers. Might be worth calling in if you shop around frequently.
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Drake_263 posted:
A Fast Attack unit for the Death Guard, that's extra heretical. But it looks great in that scheme!
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Thanks, that's what I thought but my LGS' owner ordered a couple Might Zug to sell along with his personal order and was charging $45 apiece for them. Yeah, he's ripping you off. Immanentized posted:What imprint are you using? I've been in the CC industry for about 5 years now and have never heard of any of the big 3 doing this outside of some sketchy issuers. Might be worth calling in if you shop around frequently. It's probable that I'm thinking of the times when I used a debit card, so the bank would make those conversions. I haven't ordered from FW in a while, so haven't used my Chase card for non-USD transactions.
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Mango Polo posted:A Fast Attack unit for the Death Guard, that's extra heretical. My only Fast Attack unit. Maybe I should've gone Iron Warriors, I have like ten HS choices. Thanks!
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I'm tinkering with a 2000 point Ironwing list based around the things I have available and some planned purchases and came up with this:quote:HQ For those who don't know the ins and outs of Ironwing: Pros - Squadrons of two or more tanks get BS5 (I'm not claiming that bonus as my predators are two separate units, there's a reason why) - Infantry models that shoot a pistol, rapid fire, or salvo weapon S5 or less get +1 to wound within 12" - All dreadnoughts get Tank Hunter and Fear - All vehicles ignore their first failed dangerous terrain test and get +1" to Flat Out moves Cons - All infantry must start the game in transports - Half of your units must be tanks (this is why I have my predators split into two different units, I had to cover the praetor and dreadnought talon) - If all of your tanks get blown up, your opponent scores an additional secondary objective (typically worth one victory point, but you'll also probably be giving up another d3 in that scenario thanks to the Dark Angels' rules) - No fortifications or allies It's got some solid bonuses, but really limits your list construction. This isn't my final list by any means, it's simply one I can work towards relatively quickly. All I'm missing are the command squad and predators. I think 30 scoring models is playing things somewhat risky at 2k; I'd like to have another scoring unit somewhere, but I want to start getting used to this RoW. With all that said, how bad does it look? Down the line, I'll probably drop the praetor, command squad, and land raider for a delegatus hiding in a command rhino. That'll free up a ton of points that I can use for more tanks and bodies and make my outflanking squads of veterans more reliable.
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Kyr Vhalen 195 9 Tactical Space Marines: nuncio-vox; + 1 Tactical Sergeant 135 9 Tactical Space Marines: nuncio-vox; + 1 Tactical Sergeant 135 7 Veteran Space Marines: heavy bolter and suspensor web; + 1 Veteran Sergeant (artificer armour; power fist) 181 • Rhino 35 Apothecarion Detachment • Apothecary: augury scanner 50 3 Quad Launcher Rapier Carriers: quad launcher (shatter shells) 210 9 Iron Havocs: 5× missile launcher; 4× lascannon; + 1 Iron Havoc Sergeant (lascannon; augury scanner; melta bombs) 420 Artillery Tank Squadron • Medusa 155 War Machine Detachment • Typhon Heavy Siege Tank: armoured ceramite; pintle-mounted heavy bolter (shrapnel bolts) 425 Wall of Martyrs Imperial Bunker 55 1.996 points Yes or no?
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Safety Factor posted:I'm tinkering with a 2000 point Ironwing list based around the things I have available and some planned purchases and came up with this: List looks solid, but yeah, at some point you really want another tank somewhere so you can squadron the predators. I'd think about shaving points and maybe cutting a dread to get a Damocles or other cheap tank in there. Dozer blades are kind of a waste of points with dust of a thousand worlds in my opinion. It's definitely a good list and you'll lose lots of close games with it.
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tallkidwithglasses posted:List looks solid, but yeah, at some point you really want another tank somewhere so you can squadron the predators. I'd think about shaving points and maybe cutting a dread to get a Damocles or other cheap tank in there. Dozer blades are kind of a waste of points with dust of a thousand worlds in my opinion. It's definitely a good list and you'll lose lots of close games with it. Hey now, you guys had no problem losing a close game to us even without that rule.
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SRM posted:Emperor's Children are a buncha chumps and Eidolon's got a stupid Skrillex haircut 3 years too late for it to be cool anymore. WRONG AGAIN
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Is there a good resource for the squad level variations of heresy era Dark Angels? The book that comes out in a year will probably be what you're looking for. What we know now is that DA commanders followed a strategic concept called the Hexagrammatron with six different Wings- ironwing and ravenwing (which are our current rites of war) are mechanized combined arms and recon/search and destroy armies. Stormwing, firewing and dreadwing have all been speculated about but aren't really known yet. Deathwing are the vets and might just be represented with Pride of the Legion or might get its own rite some day. Basically, the first legion seems to be fairly generic dudes that get lots of cool banned wargear that Dad won't let the other legions have, and pretty big advantages if you conform to a really rigid army list. We'll know a lot more when Angelus drops in a year-ish.
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tallkidwithglasses posted:Stormwing, firewing and dreadwing have all been speculated about but aren't really known yet. Deathwing are the vets and might just be represented with Pride of the Legion or might get its own rite some day. The other wings have been mentioned briefly as far as the basic ideas go, or at least Lexicanum says so. Firewing is heavy on Devastators and weird ranged guns, Stormwing is assault marines and drop pods, and Dreadwing is Destroyers.
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tallkidwithglasses posted:The book that comes out in a year will probably be what you're looking for. What we know now is that DA commanders followed a strategic concept called the Hexagrammatron with six different Wings- ironwing and ravenwing (which are our current rites of war) are mechanized combined arms and recon/search and destroy armies. Stormwing, firewing and dreadwing have all been speculated about but aren't really known yet. Deathwing are the vets and might just be represented with Pride of the Legion or might get its own rite some day. Sorry, should have specified, I meant more along of painting schemas. Like sergeants signifiers and what not.
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Cythereal posted:The other wings have been mentioned briefly as far as the basic ideas go, or at least Lexicanum says so. Firewing is heavy on Devastators and weird ranged guns, Stormwing is assault marines and drop pods, and Dreadwing is Destroyers. Dreadwing sounds really cool you should play that TKWG
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Sorry, should have specified, I meant more along of painting schemas. Like sergeants signifiers and what not.  Basically, it boils down to the terminator being marked with the crossed swords of the Deathwing and the symbol of the Hexagrammaton which represents the six Wings. The keys are a mystery, that's even said in description. The power armored dude has the symbol of the Firewing on his left knee, but there are no details given as to what exactly the Firewing is or does. Both feature a checker pattern though it is interesting that the terminator's is red. I'm guessing this is for Deathwing types like terminators, praetors, etc. I've worked a lot of checker patterns into my force and I've worked a lot of little personal heraldry like stripes and simple patterns on shoulder pads and knee pads. The Dark Angels were known for their weird symbology so why not go for it? Hixson posted:Dreadwing sounds really cool you should play that TKWG  Please be good, book VIII. Please be good. 
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SRM posted:Emperor's Children are a buncha chumps and Eidolon's got a stupid Skrillex haircut 3 years too late for it to be cool anymore. Now now, don't act like a jit because he can rock a cut you can't. 
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Are you going to do the brighter green edging on it too? I have to admit I really like this slightly more subdued look. Also you should join the Slack channel.
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Safety Factor posted:Nah, there's practically nothing so far. Two Dark Angels were depicted in book VI though. Thanks, with Cypher and the Fallen getting a push in March I thought would use the Prospero MK3 marines as Fallen and was looking for some various signifiers to make them look like disparate forces combined into one unit.
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Mango Polo posted:Are you going to do the brighter green edging on it too? This is a trap.
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ijyt posted:This is a trap. We're discussing cats right now. I'd say if that's a trap, it's a pretty fluffy and inoffensive one.
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Hixson posted:Dreadwing sounds really cool you should play that TKWG I agree and I plan on it. Destroyers are a lot less bad when they're compulsory troops and presumably get extra weapons to do war crimes with. In the books they also apparently get hover land raiders and Spartans, so get on that FW.
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