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Ape Fist posted:They wouldn't do it if they didn't think there was a kernel of moral satisfaction to be had from doing it. 
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I said come in! posted:This is so stupid. A word doesnt stop holding meaning because you saw a lot of people on the internet use it. Everyone on the internet talks about cats, do cats not exist anymore? No but it makes a lot of people hate cats The thing that SJW types don't get is a LOT OF US agree with most of what they have to say but they say it in the most dickish, pretentious "Oh, gently caress off" manner possible and it literally turns people against them.
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Feb 22, 2017 15:22
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Blazing Ownager posted:No but it makes a lot of people hate cats this is called tone policing btw
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Feb 22, 2017 15:38
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Blazing Ownager posted:No but it makes a lot of people hate cats (though i have been called a pink haired sjw cuck by a frogified friend who had a bit of a meltdown due to some posts critical of trump's platform in chat, so maybe i dont see them because im the true obease rainbow female. its me.)
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Feb 22, 2017 15:46
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The PC police are the left wing equivalent to Christian Fundamentalists and thank god for the American system of ping ponging us back and forth culturally without having to resort to civil wars because this country was going the way of North Korea
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Feb 22, 2017 15:48
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I said come in! posted:This is so stupid. A word doesnt stop holding meaning because you saw a lot of people on the internet use it. Everyone on the internet talks about cats, do cats not exist anymore? It's simple: calling everyone a racist or a Nazi dilutes the efficacy of that criticism. This is the moral of the story the boy who cried wolf.
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Feb 22, 2017 15:52
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It also has the effect of "Oh I'm a racist already, Ok whatever, then I give 0 fucks"
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Feb 22, 2017 15:55
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:It also has the effect of "Oh I'm a racist already, Ok whatever, then I give 0 fucks" I don't know about that. I haven't devolved into an unsympathetic mindset just because a misanthrope called me a Soviet Nazi racist
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Feb 22, 2017 16:02
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Toadvine posted:I don't know about that. I haven't devolved into an unsympathetic mindset just because a misanthrope called me a Soviet Nazi racist Being constantly battered with "loving white male oppressor racist devil whose very existence brings misery upon the Earth" doesn't make you jaded?
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Feb 22, 2017 16:05
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wait, is good and important internet forums poster spunky psycho ho constantly battered with people telling him that he's an rear end in a top hat? if thats true, that does seem extremely unfair and completely unwarranted indeed. the universe is a cruel and uncaring place.
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Feb 22, 2017 16:08
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Minorities get called terrorists, thugs, murderers, and rapists, some of these groups are being called that by our own president. I think white people can handle being called racist. You're pretty thin skinned and have zero perspective on the world if you're upset by this to the point where you want to pretend a word no longer means anything.
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Feb 22, 2017 16:08
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Being constantly battered with "loving white male oppressor racist devil whose very existence brings misery upon the Earth" doesn't make you jaded? Water on a ducks back.
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Feb 22, 2017 16:08
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I said come in! posted:Minorities get called terrorists, thugs, murderers, and rapists, some of these groups are being called that by our own president. I think white people can handle being called racist. You're pretty thin skinned and have zero perspective on the world if you're upset by this to the point where you want to pretend a word no longer means anything. Do you think every white person who gets called racist actually is racist? Have you read The Boy Who Cried Wolf?
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Feb 22, 2017 16:14
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I said come in! posted:Minorities get called terrorists, thugs, murderers, and rapists, some of these groups are being called that by our own president. I think white people can handle being called racist. You're pretty thin skinned and have zero perspective on the world if you're upset by this to the point where you want to pretend a word no longer means anything. Two wrongs dont make a right
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Feb 22, 2017 16:14
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I said come in! posted:Minorities get called terrorists, thugs, murderers, and rapists, some of these groups are being called that by our own president. I think white people can handle being called racist. You're pretty thin skinned and have zero perspective on the world if you're upset by this to the point where you want to pretend a word no longer means anything. Here we go "This group gets to be offended by every little phrase, and this group has to suck it up and take it" The USA just rebelled against that thinking, because it's ignorant
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Feb 22, 2017 16:16
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Here we go "This group gets to be offended by every little phrase, and this group has to suck it up and take it" The USA just rebelled against that thinking, because it's ignorant 
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Feb 22, 2017 16:19
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when contrasting voter turnout to the previous election, wasn't the primary reason why the demos lost because they just failed to energize a bunch of voters that turned out in the prev election? im not sure if that could be qualified as a rebellion, but then again, i dont watch quality youtube series This Week In Stupid
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Feb 22, 2017 16:21
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Kjoery posted:i still have not met or interacted with a sjw on the internet yet, whats it like Look at the man to your left. Now look at the man to your right. Statistically one in three Americans is actually a transethnic e-warrior who plans on forcefully aborting red-blooded American babies! Know who to trust.
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Feb 22, 2017 16:41
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I said come in! posted:Minorities get called terrorists, thugs, murderers, and rapists, some of these groups are being called that by our own president. I think white people can handle being called racist. You're pretty thin skinned and have zero perspective on the world if you're upset by this to the point where you want to pretend a word no longer means anything. The difference is that nobody whines when the minorities don't vote for the people insulting them.
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Feb 22, 2017 16:42
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new phone who dis posted:The difference is that nobody whines when the minorities don't vote for the people insulting them. i think that might actually be a pretty mainstream thing???
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Feb 22, 2017 16:44
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Kjoery posted:i can imagine people complaining that "The Minorities probably all vote Democrat". The point I'm making is that if prominent people in your party insult and demean white people for being white, don't act shocked when they vote for someone else, especially when minorities do the same thing. The left can either be ideologically pure to identity politics and lose, or try to compromise and win. It's not that complicated.
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Feb 22, 2017 16:46
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Toadvine posted:It's simple: calling everyone a racist or a Nazi dilutes the efficacy of that criticism. This is the moral of the story the boy who cried wolf. lol, but wolves still exist  - A GBS poster
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Feb 22, 2017 16:54
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new phone who dis posted:The point I'm making is that if prominent people in your party insult and demean white people for being white, don't act shocked when they vote for someone else, especially when minorities do the same thing. The left can either be ideologically pure to identity politics and lose, or try to compromise and win. It's not that complicated. *wasn't hillary a boring as hell centrist who never took a tangible or exciting position on any real issue? *didnt the democrats lose because they didnt motivate their voterbase? im fairly certain that's the reason. *if so, becoming even more compromise-y in that election would have made things even worse for the demos yeah, hillary called trump racist for calling mexicans rapists, and sexist for his statement about cat-nabbin', but i feel like that doesn't qualify as identity politics. nothing about that campaign was identity politics. im not sure if this issue you have with the democratic party is real, dude. i think you might, instead, have issue with a bunch of loud, insane individuals who talking heads on youtube put in the spotlight for the sake of clicks e: oh, i guess they did push the "clinton is a female" angle a lot, so there's one identity politics that you get for free crime weed fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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Feb 22, 2017 16:56
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Kjoery posted:nothing about that campaign was identity politics.  Are you even from America
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Feb 22, 2017 16:59
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turns out attacking people for something they have no control over is kinda lovely even if you're punching up e: or in the case of the tools in the above pic punching yourself 
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Are you even from America e: oops, i worked so hard to avoid responding to forums poster spunky psycho ho, but here i am now. time to take a break from the internet in shame crime weed fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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Feb 22, 2017 17:03
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Kjoery posted:i mostly watched the debates and news headlines. i dont recall hillary ever making consistent, strong statements about BLM; i thought she sort of edged around it in order to appear more centrist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORWM0ukT-Xw Straight from the horses mouth
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Feb 22, 2017 17:06
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Kjoery posted:nothing about that campaign was identity politics.
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rezatahs posted:turns out attacking people for something they have no control over is kinda lovely even if you're punching up nnnooooOO! 
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Feb 22, 2017 17:08
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I like how I'm just called "white", doesn't matter where my family came from I'm just "white" and I'm a problem, probably part of a slave-owning family. Doesn't matter that I'm half Algerian from North Africa, doesn't matter that my other half is Norwegian and never owned slaves, doesn't matter that my family is poor because I'm "white" so therefore I'm privileged and bad. Even though this rhetoric was turned up to 11 this election I still didn't vote for Trump though, Jill Stein all the way baby.
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I honestly don't know what's worse. Being hated because of your pale skin color or being hated because of your dark skin color I don't know how far this polarization has reached in the US, or how further it will continue, but Trump and his clique certainly sound like assholes who like to pour more oil on this fire and then playing the victim card when things are heating up. We have the same bunch of assholes in Europe too though.
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Feb 22, 2017 17:27
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Kjoery posted:this post raises so many questions for me Remaining in the middle and ignoring the supporters to your left is a huge compromise
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Feb 22, 2017 17:36
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORWM0ukT-Xw This poo poo is the worst
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SpaceGoatFarts posted:I don't know how far this polarization has reached in the US, or how further it will continue, but Trump and his clique certainly sound like assholes who like to pour more oil on this fire and then playing the victim card when things are heating up. This is a lovely hot take, considering that the Dems polarized the everliving gently caress out of the US in the last few decades.
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Feb 22, 2017 17:41
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Kjoery posted:this post raises so many questions for me Hillary's economic centrism and stupid pandering to identity leftism was a double death sentence for her. You have to remember: she though putting up Lena Dunham at the convention was a good idea and was going to attract all the right type of voters. It's like someone said "Find us someone like Paris Hilton, but more woke and insufferable". The compromise turbo leftists and identity cultists need to make is with the white working class who happily voted for Obama twice. There are only so many sad-sack white people you can browbeat into hating themselves and voting as you instruct them to against their own interests.
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Fog Tripper posted:This is a lovely hot take, considering that the Dems polarized the everliving gently caress out of the US in the last few decades. These people arguing live in Europe. They have no idea what America is even like. They should look inwards, to Brexit, which essentially rallied the Trump movement to victory
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Fog Tripper posted:This is a lovely hot take, considering that the Dems polarized the everliving gently caress out of the US in the last few decades. I'm aware this opinion is common among those who usually consider the democrats as their political enemy. Honestly, seen from the outside, the responsibility is AT LEAST shared between both extremes of the spectrum. Democrats look like they mostly take a defensive stances VS what they perceive as attack against people's rights. But I agree some of the battles they fight really are stupid
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:These people arguing live in Europe. They have no idea what America is even like. They should look inwards, to Brexit, which essentially rallied the Trump movement to victory It's kind of a similar situation. A bunch of lazy people considered that their rights were granted, didn't go to vote, and now wake up with a hangover realizing that you have to constantly fight for what you consider worthy. Truly a lesson for all of us.
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Feb 22, 2017 17:51
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SpaceGoatFarts posted:I'm aware this opinion is common among those who usually consider the democrats as their political enemy. Well, seeing as the democrats have labeled all white males to be literally hitler, what do you expect from us? To imagine them other than political enemies?
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Fog Tripper posted:Well, seeing as the democrats have labeled all white males to be literally hitler, what do you expect from us? To imagine them other than political enemies? That's why I said the country is way too polarized, maybe even beyond repair. When Trump says Mexicans are job stealing, drug trafficking rapists I don't feel like the other camp is trying to make a step in the correct direction neither  I don't know where this madness will lead to? Is one of the sides ready to appear as weaker and cease the demonization? Do we need more deaths to realize where this leads to? I have no answers.
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