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It's entirely because of the whole carp->dragon myth thing, I think. I imagine there wasn't quite as intentional or interesting an origin for most of uranium's brood
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GeneX posted:It's entirely because of the whole carp->dragon myth thing, I think. Someone has never heard of the "weird dumb brown ball with a face wearing a helmet with ears that has a spring sticking out of the top that might supposed to be a bomb but who the gently caress can tell let alone why" myth before.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 02:38 |
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GeneX posted:It's entirely because of the whole carp->dragon myth thing, I think. I think it's a little that and a little "hey this is a bit of a pain in the rear end but if you level up this literally helpless fish critter you get a totally cool dragon"
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 03:15 |
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Zore posted:It looks like a roided clown on the brink of death. Its one of the only pokemon I find really repulsive (along with Stantler, Tympole, Mr. Mime and loving Diggersby) I always thought of the Conkeldurr family as overly muscular dogfaces (the kind of non-human humanoid species Goofy is supposed to be). Also what do you have against Stantler? I mean its boring as all sin, but "repulsive" isn't the first word that comes to mind. Also if I had to redesign that iron ball thing, I'd make it a pure Steel type and have it resemble an actual iron ball and chain, spikes are optional. We have so few pure Steel types as it is so having that would make it stand out in that aspect.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 03:22 |
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I just looked up the tympole line on bulbapedia Jesus christ what an awful design
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 05:04 |
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Fomantis and Lurantis' types make perfect sense because they're just flower mantises in reverse; instead of an insect mimicking a plant they're a plant mimicking an insect. Also there is only one line of real pokemon whose designs I actively dislike, and their names are swirlix and slurpuff.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 05:26 |
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CoffeeAvenger posted:I actually don't mind most canon pokemon designs, but there's no excuse for Bruxish. It's like Lisa Frank exploded on a humuhumu and gave it nightmarish teeth. I fail to understand how this is a bad thing. Bruxish is FABULOUS. It's a garishly colored psychic fish with sharp teeth. It's deliberately ugly. It isn't my favorite Gen VII design, but it's solidly in the middle of the pack.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 05:31 |
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I like Altaria. Fluffy bird looks like the definition of Normal/Flying, nope SURPRISE DRAGON.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 05:38 |
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Cattail Prophet posted:Fomantis and Lurantis' types make perfect sense because they're just flower mantises in reverse; instead of an insect mimicking a plant they're a plant mimicking an insect. Fomantis and Lurantis are also loving adorable. Instead of being orchid mantises, they're mantis orchids! PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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Spatula City posted:I fail to understand how this is a bad thing. Bruxish is FABULOUS. It's a garishly colored psychic fish with sharp teeth. It's deliberately ugly. It isn't my favorite Gen VII design, but it's solidly in the middle of the pack. Same, I love Bruxish. He looks like he came straight out of a psychedelic 60s cartoon.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 09:56 |
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Wait, is owten an owl kitten thing? Because that's adorable. I bet they gently caress up the evolution though. As far as difficulty in pokemon games goes, I discovered that playing as a gimmick team of all one type is a pretty interesting way to make the games more challenging without being bullshit. Sure, it's not too hard to get through the game if you have a well-balanced team set up to deal with any given type, but trying to make an all-steel (or steel/whatever) team work was difficult but really fun. I haven't played any of the games in ages, but next time I pick one up I figure I'll pick a type that isn't already taken by a gym/boss.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 10:48 |
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PoptartsNinja posted:Fomantis and Lurantis are also loving adorable. I love how Fomantis is basically krumping in its idle animation, it's fantastic.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 12:54 |
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Crazy Achmed posted:Wait, is owten an owl kitten thing? Because that's adorable. I bet they gently caress up the evolution though. Just don't play S&M with mono-ghost or mono-psychic. Lots of things end up packing Crunch or Sucker Punch.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 15:27 |
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ChaosArgate posted:Just don't play S&M with mono-ghost or mono-psychic. Lots of things end up packing Crunch or Sucker Punch. Mono-ghost has been tough for a while. Ghost types just pay so hard for their two immunities because so many of the Pokemon you'd use them on to take advantage of that get Crunch or other dark type moves.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 18:28 |
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Playing Sun and Moon with a mono-ghost team is literally the only time an Ariados will ever be threatening. I learned that the hard way.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 18:33 |
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Crazy Achmed posted:Wait, is owten an owl kitten thing? Because that's adorable. I bet they gently caress up the evolution though. try all dark in Gen 2, weep when the first dark type isn't until just before the final gym
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 18:37 |
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well OKAY technically the eevee you get can become umbreon but that's still a good ways in
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 18:39 |
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I tried to do mono-poison in gen 1 Take a wild guess where I got stonewalled
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 18:43 |
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thefailtrain posted:Mono-ghost has been tough for a while. Ghost types just pay so hard for their two immunities because so many of the Pokemon you'd use them on to take advantage of that get Crunch or other dark type moves. Maybe it's just me, but despite Ghost being my favorite type, I've never been a fan of pure Ghosts. Their movesets usually leave something to be desired, and the only one with a particularly appealing visual design, at least for me, is Cofagrigus. The Ghost/Darks haven't really wowed me, either. But every other Ghost subtype results in pretty rad-looking Pokemon with really nice, satisfying move pools (it helps that Shadow Ball is a standard TM, also Sludge Bomb/Wave for my boy Gengar).
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 18:44 |
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inthesto posted:I tried to do mono-poison in gen 1 Brock's gym bc all you had was beedril unless this was yellow where Nidoran can get Double Kick fairly quickly
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 18:55 |
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Probably one of the more surprising and unpleasant (to run into) additions to S&M that you'll encounter early is the Machop line getting Knock Off at lvl 21. Knock Off of course being a physical Dark-type move, where previously the only moves the line learned were either Fighting or Normal. The line also gets a physical Dragon move now as well.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 18:56 |
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mandatory lesbian posted:Brock's gym bc all you had was beedril Even if it wasn't yellow you could still just use Nidoran. Or powerlevel up to Nidoking if you really have to (you shouldn't).
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 19:53 |
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Hammurabi posted:Even if it wasn't yellow you could still just use Nidoran. Or powerlevel up to Nidoking if you really have to (you shouldn't). Nidoran gets Double Kick at 43 in Red and Blue. You can power through with resisted Horn Attacks but you would have to do a shitload of grinding first.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 19:58 |
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WrightOfWay posted:Nidoran gets Double Kick at 43 in Red and Blue. You can power through with resisted Horn Attacks but you would have to do a shitload of grinding first. Reminds me of playing Yellow. My first time fighting Brock I levelled Pikachu until it learned (I think) Quick Attack and just chiselled away at Onyx for ages.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:06 |
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A tiny electric mouse headbutting a stone snake, forever
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:12 |
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Hammurabi posted:Even if it wasn't yellow you could still just use Nidoran. Or powerlevel up to Nidoking if you really have to (you shouldn't). the key words in my post were fairly quickly, leveling to 43 in red or blue is not gonna go fast before the first gym BioEnchanted posted:Reminds me of playing Yellow. My first time fighting Brock I levelled Pikachu until it learned (I think) Quick Attack and just chiselled away at Onyx for ages. thats what i did my first time playing...good times
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:12 |
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Malachite_Dragon posted:A tiny electric mouse headbutting a stone snake, forever If only Onix had a horn Pikachu could aim for.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:13 |
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I always had a butterfry for onix when I was using charmander
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:14 |
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Mr. Vile posted:To be fair, one of my real pet peeves about the later pokemon games is that they really dropped the ball on making it instantly apparent what type a given pokemon is. Take a glance at, say, Golem and you can tell that it's rock type. There are exceptions, but for the most part you can tell the typing from a glance at the sprite. In the later gens there are some sprites that I have absolutely no idea on, with Florges, Dhlemise and Fomantis/Lurantis being particularly bad offenders. And as for the ultra beasts, how is this grass type, this flying type and this a goddamn rock/poison type? Flygon is my favorite Flying/Bug/Grass/Dragon type.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:46 |
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Dr. Dos posted:Flygon is my favorite Flying/Bug/Grass/Dragon type. I forgot about Flygon and how much it annoys me . I really like bug types so it annoys me endlessly that two of the coolest looking ones are secretly not bug types at all.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 21:13 |
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EclecticTastes posted:Maybe it's just me, but despite Ghost being my favorite type, I've never been a fan of pure Ghosts. Their movesets usually leave something to be desired, and the only one with a particularly appealing visual design, at least for me, is Cofagrigus. The Ghost/Darks haven't really wowed me, either. But every other Ghost subtype results in pretty rad-looking Pokemon with really nice, satisfying move pools (it helps that Shadow Ball is a standard TM, also Sludge Bomb/Wave for my boy Gengar). I'm largely in the same boat, TBH. Though I do like Mismagius, most of my favorite ghosts are double typed, like Mimikyu, Delmhise, Chandelure, etc..
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 21:14 |
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KataraniSword posted:If only Onix had a horn Pikachu could aim for. Or could zap a sprinkler system to get Onix a little moist, turning it into a water type. I'm 99% sure that's why the move 'soak' exists.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 21:18 |
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It does feel like in some cases a Pokemon should have more than 2 types, but due to technical and design limitations, that can't happen. Of course at this point, rebalancing and reprogramming the game to account for more than 2 types on a Pokemon would be an utter nightmare.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 21:21 |
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If they keep the Regional Forms concept beyond Sun & Moon then we could eventually see a bug type Flygon. Here's hoping they don't more or less drop it like they did with Mega Evolution.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 21:26 |
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Dr. Fetus posted:It does feel like in some cases a Pokemon should have more than 2 types, but due to technical and design limitations, that can't happen. Of course at this point, rebalancing and reprogramming the game to account for more than 2 types on a Pokemon would be an utter nightmare. Since Gen 6 there's been engine support for triple-typed mons due to type modifying moves, but I think the conceptual overhead of having to filter everything through 3-4 layers of typing would probably be worse than just arbitrarily picking 2 types for something that looks like it should have a 3rd. Also, abilities like Steelworker or Levitate can already give a mon a simplified version of a 3rd type, which is probably a better solution for most situations. Alacron posted:Here's hoping they don't more or less drop it like they every single feature since the dawn of time fixed it the holy poopacy fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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Straight White Shark posted:
Hey now! They kept Pokemon Amie and infinite-use TMs. And... uh... contests, for whatever reason, though only sometimes.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 21:37 |
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Dr. Fetus posted:It does feel like in some cases a Pokemon should have more than 2 types, but due to technical and design limitations, that can't happen. Of course at this point, rebalancing and reprogramming the game to account for more than 2 types on a Pokemon would be an utter nightmare. There have been small overtures to triple-types here and there, with things like Steelworker granting Steel-STAB to a non-Steel type and Dry Skin granting an additional weakness (opening up the potential for a x6 damage modifier in certain cases). I imagine they'll continue somewhat in that vein, where abilities are used to substitute for elements of a third type.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 21:53 |
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Uranium has a Pokemon with five STABs.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 22:04 |
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Uranium has a Pokemon with five STABs. Wait what? How is that.......what??? That's just ridiculous.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 22:12 |
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I wanna see a trainer with nothing but magikarps and a small paddling pool. Before a bout he'd fill the pool, get Magikarp to splash so that the rock-type opponent is soaking wet, then just walk up and punch out the onyx. Hell, it worked with Meowth in the anime - took out a rock type using two buckets of water that he threw at it. "WATER SPIN! "
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