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straight up brolic posted:I do Jaylen Brown, 1 Nets pick If I'm the Celtics, me too, but if I'm the Pacers I demand both and see if they wilt (and if I'm the Celtics I do it eventually. You're cashing in on hope, and if you wait until the draft when the pick turns out to be No. 2 or 3, you've lost a huge amount of leverage. I sell the unknown for the known).
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Yeah. I just can't see it. I wouldn't trade Jimmy or George without both of those Nets picks. I don't even need Jaylen Brown(they clearly don't value him much). Just give me salary fillers and the two Nets picks and I'd be content. Top 10-12 players don't just fall off trees. Unless that tree is in Sacramento.
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chunkles posted:Per Woj, Rockets want a player in the 10-12m salary range. It's interesting that he mentions salary as the primary factor. Wonder if they are trying to do a larger trade or if it just has tax implications for the Rockets Neither, most likely it's just that they have that amount of assets that they can dump off for the player. The Rockets are above the cap so salary needs to match.
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Memnaelar posted:I have no idea who the woman in the picture is. An escort who has been desperately trying to become famous for a few years.
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Dexo posted:Yeah. I just can't see it. I wouldn't trade Jimmy or George without both of those Nets picks.
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Feb 22, 2017 19:43
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I completely recognize it makes sense to move both picks for a legit superstar but I can't shake the uneasy feeling about it. It's like hoarding elixers in Final Fantasy games.
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straight up brolic posted:I do Jaylen Brown, 1 Nets pick That'd be the opening offer but I don't see why Indiana and Chicago would make that trade at all right now. If they knew the Celtics would have the #1 pick that MIGHT change things but I'm not giving up Butler or George for Ball or Jackson. Also the Celtics young players don't really move the needle for me. Memnaelar posted:I have no idea who the woman in the picture is. Professional Instagram model / "escort"
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Eltoasto posted:
If you can get both Nets picks I'd be pretty excited having Myles Turner and two potential studs depending on how the lottery shakes out. I definitely understand being upset about losing a guy like George though no matter how good the return.
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It makes sense to move both picks if the market dictates it, but this years Nets pick is hands down the best asset that is going to be offered for Paul George unless someone is an idiot. Ainge knows that. There are other things Ainge can do to sweeten the deal. The Clippers pick, taking on one of the Pacers bad contracts (Al Jefferson). http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jqemsax This trade is interesting to me. 22 Million in cap relief, a top 4 pick on this draft and a good wing prospect. Paul Zuvella fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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Salvor_Hardin posted:I completely recognize it makes sense to move both picks for a legit superstar but I can't shake the uneasy feeling about it. It's like hoarding elixers in Final Fantasy games. I never use elixers and then I get to the final boss and I have like 25 of them and only need to use a couple
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Eltoasto posted:
And apparently they're gauging the trade market on him now. Motherfuck. I hate Larry Bird so much. If PG goes, I'm done with this loving dumbass team. I'll need a new team to follow. Suggestions?
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Feb 22, 2017 19:52
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I don't give a gently caress who they give up to get Paul George or Jimmy Butler really, draft picks are for geeks
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Feb 22, 2017 19:53
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It's important to note that the Celtics have the additional assets to paper over the cracks in any deal without using both
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pubic works project posted:And apparently they're gauging the trade market on him now. Motherfuck. I hate Larry Bird so much. If PG goes, I'm done with this loving dumbass team. I'll need a new team to follow. Suggestions? You should root for [my team]!!!
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Salvor_Hardin posted:I completely recognize it makes sense to move both picks for a legit superstar but I can't shake the uneasy feeling about it. It's like hoarding elixers in Final Fantasy games. The Boogie trade threw everyone's idea for what everything is worth out of whack.
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pubic works project posted:And apparently they're gauging the trade market on him now. Motherfuck. I hate Larry Bird so much. If PG goes, I'm done with this loving dumbass team. I'll need a new team to follow. Suggestions? poo poo, man, Boston will have dreamy Brad AND PG...we might as well become Celtics fans and pretend it isn't Boston.
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Eltoasto posted:poo poo, man, Boston will have dreamy Brad AND PG...we might as well become Celtics fans and pretend it isn't Boston. I want to root for Brad so much, but I can't. I hate Boston. I hate that town and the fans (no goons on here though, y'all are cool) and sometimes I wish a nuke would hit it.
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Feb 22, 2017 19:58
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If Larry Bird was smart he would badmouth PG to the press like he did Hibbert and then PG would play worse and no one would want him.
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Feb 22, 2017 20:04
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Brown has value, but he's at least a year or two away from being a starter on a decent NBA team and his current applicable skill set (athletic perimeter D) is redundant with Smart and Bradley. Amir Johnson, Brown, the Nets 2018, the Celtics 2018, and the Memphis 2019?
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Feb 22, 2017 20:08
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pubic works project posted:I'll need a new team to follow. Suggestions? How much do you like talented big men combo'd with no shooting?
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Feb 22, 2017 20:20
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Wouldn't trade Butler or George for anything less than both Brooklyn picks plus filler
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pubic works project posted:And apparently they're gauging the trade market on him now. Motherfuck. I hate Larry Bird so much. If PG goes, I'm done with this loving dumbass team. I'll need a new team to follow. Suggestions? Wizards
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Feb 22, 2017 20:27
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SHOAH NUFF posted:Wizards Probably the best team to bandwagon this year yeah.
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SHOAH NUFF posted:Wizards I'm genuinely happy for Wizards fans and how their team has turned the season around completely but I still have a sneaking dread that an injury will derail the season in a huge way at the worst possible time. I hope I'm wrong but that kind of seems to be a hazard of being a Wizards fan
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Two Tone Shoes posted:How much do you like talented big men combo'd with no shooting? pre:Player 3P% 3PA/G Holiday 39% 4 Cunningham 39% 3 Moore 39% 3 Casspi 38% 1 Hill 36% 3 Frazier 35% 2 Cousins 35% 5
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Feb 22, 2017 20:32
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Nah gently caress the Wizards and their lovely coaches that stand on the floor in late game situations
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Feb 22, 2017 20:34
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I'm going to buy an Otto Porter jersey but I'm waiting until after Thursday because Ernie can do some dumb poo poo sometimes
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Doltos posted:Nah gently caress the Wizards and their lovely coaches that stand on the floor in late game situations Much like Mike tomlin, it rules when they do it
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Feb 22, 2017 20:35
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How is PGs PER so bad for a guy who does so much?
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Ghetto SuperCzar posted:How is PGs PER so bad for a guy who does so much? PER is a catchall efficiency stat, not a measure of player quality. The Pacers suck and George has to go beyond, which messes up his numbers. Compare his situation and PER to Durant
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PG is the guy who has to take a contested shot after Monta, Stuckey, and Teague pass the ball away from their open 3.
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Ghetto SuperCzar posted:How is PGs PER so bad for a guy who does so much? low FG%, high turnover rate. both things that are partially the product of high usage and would improve on a team with another good scorer.
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Dejan Bimble posted:PER is a catchall efficiency stat, not a measure of player quality. The Pacers suck and George has to go beyond, which messes up his numbers. Compare his situation and PER to Durant I know it isn't the determining factor in how good a player is, but at a glance it's useful for seeing how good a player is. PG hasn't risen above 20 (even when they were good) which is a little worrisome. Usually when a team is bad and a player is doing more you get insane Minny Kevin Love values out of it. I wonder if it's more of a pace thing.
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Cool Buff Man posted:I don't give a gently caress who they give up to get Paul George or Jimmy Butler really, draft picks are for geeks hell yeah
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Ghetto SuperCzar posted:I know it isn't the determining factor in how good a player is, but at a glance it's useful for seeing how good a player is. PG hasn't risen above 20 (even when they were good) which is a little worrisome. Usually when a team is bad and a player is doing more you get insane Minny Kevin Love values out of it. I wonder if it's more of a pace thing. you can glance at their usage % too for a more complete picture (and minutes played since PER is a rate stat so the 'leaders' are often garbage time gods like Boban)
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Feb 22, 2017 20:47
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Right now I'm at Pelicans, Wizards, Rockets, and 76ers (cuz Embiid is awesome).
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Kibner posted:
We're 16th in the league in 3p% as a team, just barely below average. Our midrange aside from AD and Jrue is also pretty abysmal. Dejan Bimble posted:PER is a catchall efficiency stat, not a measure of player quality. The Pacers suck and George has to go beyond, which messes up his numbers. Compare his situation and PER to Durant Then why is AD, well known lovely team haver, PER's prime test subject?
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