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logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

can't wipe(out) the buttigieg

# ? Feb 22, 2017 19:42

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# ? May 24, 2024 21:52

Concerned Citizen: Jul 22, 2007; Ramrod XTreme

Rastor posted:

You need 224 (out of 447) to win

So if Perez has 205, Ellison has 153 and Pete Buttigieg And His Butt Gang have the remaining 89, nobody wins on the first round. So then you just have to consolidate the non-establishment support faster than Perez manages to find 19 votes. As that The Hill article speculates, it's possible the consolidation will be into Buttigieg instead of Ellison.

If Perez manages to grease enough palms before the first round of voting, welp

if perez is that close, it's hard to see how he doesn't win in the first round. if he were a very divisive pick, i could see that. but i think he is well-liked and at the very least will win the second round

# ? Feb 22, 2017 19:42

Gene Hackman Fan: Dec 27, 2002; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Condiv posted:

but could anyone ever make a tweet so stupid it kills the democratic party?

phrase your answer in three emojis or less.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 19:42

logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

i'm angry! angry about "retweets" on "twitter"

# ? Feb 22, 2017 19:43

anime was right: Jun 27, 2008; death is certain
keep yr cool

Rastor posted:

You need 224 (out of 447) to win

So if Perez has 205, Ellison has 153 and Pete Buttigieg And His Butt Gang have the remaining 89, nobody wins on the first round. So then you just have to consolidate the non-establishment support faster than Perez manages to find 19 votes. As that The Hill article speculates, it's possible the consolidation will be into Buttigieg instead of Ellison.

If Perez manages to grease enough palms before the first round of voting, welp

the problem is those palms have already been greased for him.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 19:44

MaxxBot: Oct 6, 2003; you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!

The Pod Save America guys are totally on the Buttigieg train, they didn't talk about him for DNC but they kept dropping his name as a promising up and coming Dem.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 19:54

Marie Furie: Nov 11, 2016

MaxxBot posted:

The Pod Save America guys are totally on the Buttigieg train, they didn't talk about him for DNC but they kept dropping his name as a promising up and coming Dem.

yeah, they said a while back that they were supporting Perez, or at least some of them were, but after Buttigieg came on the podcast they seemed really impressed with him, probably because he speaks like an actual human being

# ? Feb 22, 2017 19:57

Concerned Citizen: Jul 22, 2007; Ramrod XTreme

quote:

Last week, New Hampshire Democratic chairman Ray Buckley dropped out of the race, throwing his support to Ellison.

According to people close to Buckley who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations, he had asked his rivals for control of day-to-day operations of the organization, as well as the next presidential convention, in return for his support.

In a statement announcing Buckley's backing, Ellison said he's asked the longtime Democratic party official to "lead our effort to provide the support and resources the state parties need in a new and innovative 57 state strategy."

God damnit Ellison

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:11

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

MaxxBot posted:

The Pod Save America guys are totally on the Buttigieg train, they didn't talk about him for DNC but they kept dropping his name as a promising up and coming Dem.

honestly I'd like if people talked about him more as that than in the race because lol he's not gonna win, but he probably should be on the shortlist of up and comers in the party

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:11

Condiv: May 7, 2008; Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod

https://theintercept.com/2017/02/22/dnc-chair-candidate-tom-perezs-bank-friendly-record-could-kneecap-the-democratic-party/

quote:

In February 2010, a JP Morgan vice president, Stephanie Mudick, told the House Committee on Veterans� Affairs on behalf of her bank, �I would like to express to the men and women serving our country, and to the members of this committee, Chase�s deepest regret over the mistakes we made in applying these protections.�

Mudick confirmed allegations that J.P. Morgan had foreclosed on active duty soldiers in violation of the Servicemembers Civil Relief Act (SCRA). The SCRA was first enacted during the Civil War and is designed to cap interest rates and prevent foreclosures for active duty troops. Violations can potentially be charged as misdemeanors, punishable by up to a year in prison.

Both Democrats and Republicans at the hearing lambasted Mudick, with Rep. Bob Filner suggesting the bank was responsible for �homicide� against soldiers who killed themselves after being foreclosed on. �Shouldn�t someone go to jail for that?� he asked. �And who should? Who is responsible? Are you, as the executive VP who was given us from the bank to answer for this stuff, should you go to jail?�

Mudick pledged to find out who at her bank was responsible and would be held accountable. But her performance didn�t impress attorneys defending soldiers against illegal foreclosures. Richard Harpootlian, a foreclosure defense attorney, echoed Filner at the hearing. �Put somebody in jail, then banks will stop doing it,� he said.

The SCRA is rarely used for jail time, and other parts of the government were more well-suited for pursuing criminal charges against bank executives. Yet the foreclosure crisis, with the ensuing mortgage documentation fraud, was also unprecedented. The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency documented 1,622 SCRA violations, including over 1,000 completed foreclosures of active duty troops.

No one ever did get convicted of a crime. And the person who was running the division of the Department of Justice with jurisdiction over the SCRA at the time was Tom Perez. From 2009 to 2013, he was assistant attorney general for civil rights.

Perez himself continually touted his division�s work on the SCRA. But in 2011, Congressmen Brad Miller and Walter Jones wrote to the Justice Department about these violations, noting: �The continued failure to pursue criminal charges in the face of flagrant violations of the criminal law is destroying Americans� faith in their government and democracy.�

The Justice Department later reached a settlement with banks over these violations, including J.P. Morgan, offering monetary payouts to soldiers. But no individuals were held accountable.

ah, the clinton wing wants perez cause he's cuddly with big banks

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:15

Agean90: Jun 28, 2008

Condiv posted:

https://theintercept.com/2017/02/22/dnc-chair-candidate-tom-perezs-bank-friendly-record-could-kneecap-the-democratic-party/

ah, the clinton wing wants perez cause he's cuddly with big banks

I for one am stunned

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:17

GlyphGryph: Jun 23, 2013; Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

Concerned Citizen posted:

if perez is that close, it's hard to see how he doesn't win in the first round. if he were a very divisive pick, i could see that. but i think he is well-liked and at the very least will win the second round

Perez is a very divisive pick though

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:21

logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

laffo if you don't know about the 7 phantom states. go back to school morans

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:22

GlyphGryph: Jun 23, 2013; Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

logikv9 posted:

laffo if you don't know about the 7 phantom states. go back to school morans

Guam, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Mariana Islands, Canada, Mexico

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:24

Concerned Citizen: Jul 22, 2007; Ramrod XTreme

GlyphGryph posted:

Perez is a very divisive pick though

Not for DNC electors

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:25

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

what about the 420 state strategy

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:26

white sauce: Apr 29, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Concerned Citizen posted:

if perez is that close, it's hard to see how he doesn't win in the first round. if he were a very divisive pick, i could see that. but i think he is well-liked and at the very least will win the second round

He's only well liked by centrist fiends

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:33

GalacticAcid: Apr 8, 2013; NEW YORK VALUES

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

He's only well liked by centrist fiends

that's not true, I like him a good deal and I also think Castro was good as hell

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:35

G-Hawk: Dec 15, 2003

i don't like perez and would strongly prefer buttigieg, but if ellison is giving actual power to ray buckley and other people like him i will support perez over him 24/7 because that is the worst of all worlds.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:36

GalacticAcid: Apr 8, 2013; NEW YORK VALUES

necessary disclaimer, my preference for DNC chair is for Ellison

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:36

white sauce: Apr 29, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Condiv posted:

https://theintercept.com/2017/02/22/dnc-chair-candidate-tom-perezs-bank-friendly-record-could-kneecap-the-democratic-party/

ah, the clinton wing wants perez cause he's cuddly with big banks

Wtf the reason why no bankers were put in jail for destroying people's lives was Perez and now people want him in charge of the DNC

This is outrageous. Holy gently caress. There is no way out.

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:37

white sauce: Apr 29, 2012; by R. Guyovich

GalacticAcid posted:

that's not true, I like him a good deal and I also think Castro was good as hell

You LIKE Perez? Why?

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:37

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

so wait is it turning out that perez and ellison are actually both compromised and the worst thing with buttgag is that he endorsed HRC???????????????????????????

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:39

logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

Al! posted:

so wait is it turning out that perez and ellison are actually both compromised and the worst thing with buttgag is that he endorsed HRC???????????????????????????

when she already won no less

Sad EllisonBros!!

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:41

Gringostar: Nov 12, 2016; Morbid Hound

Al! posted:

so wait is it turning out that perez and ellison are actually both compromised and the worst thing with buttgag is that he endorsed HRC???????????????????????????

was there ever any doubt?

buttigieg is the only choice unless you're a centrist bad dem

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:42

GalacticAcid: Apr 8, 2013; NEW YORK VALUES

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

You LIKE Perez? Why?

he was an excellent labor secretary. the labor reporter Harold Meyerson (a democratic socialist who endorsed Sanders and who has, i believe, endorsed Ellison for DNC chair), always speaks of him with the highest respect.

i really wanted HRC to pick Perez for VP, as i've said before, and i wish he would prep for a run against Hogan instead of running for DNC chair

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:43

UHD: Nov 11, 2006

it's like human beings are flawed or some poo poo

bernie should run for dnc chair for he is untainted (so far)

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:44

G-Hawk: Dec 15, 2003

Al! posted:

so wait is it turning out that perez and ellison are actually both compromised and the worst thing with buttgag is that he endorsed HRC???????????????????????????

surprise

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:47

Karl Barks: Jan 21, 1981

perez is gunna lose to buttigieg or ellison

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:48

Gringostar: Nov 12, 2016; Morbid Hound

Karl Barks posted:

perez is gunna lose to buttigieg or ellison

it better be buttigieg or the chairs will be thrown

ellison is a bad dem that makes backroom deals to get elected

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:51

Venuz Patrol: Mar 27, 2011

if buttigieg wins in the second round of voting that's all the proof we need of his political maneuvering skill

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:52

Agean90: Jun 28, 2008

Karl Barks posted:

perez is gunna lose to buttigieg or ellison

did you move to timeline ever the dem party does good things?

take me with youuuuu

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:53

Comrade Cheggorsky: Aug 20, 2011

if my boy buttigieg doesn't win howard dean will scream the democratic party down

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:53

Karl Barks: Jan 21, 1981

concerned citizen will be flogged in the center of the dnc election room for crimes against humanity and extremely bad takes

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:54

logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

A YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGHHHHHH that will be heard for millennia

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:55

Gringostar: Nov 12, 2016; Morbid Hound

buttigieg will not win

it will be another bad dem that makes backroom deals

republicans will have a supermajority in 2018

trump will win reelection

we will all end up soulless corpses

eat arby's

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:56

white sauce: Apr 29, 2012; by R. Guyovich

GalacticAcid posted:

he was an excellent labor secretary. the labor reporter Harold Meyerson (a democratic socialist who endorsed Sanders and who has, i believe, endorsed Ellison for DNC chair), always speaks of him with the highest respect.

i really wanted HRC to pick Perez for VP, as i've said before, and i wish he would prep for a run against Hogan instead of running for DNC chair

All the good he's ever done (which will be thoroughly undone by the people he lost against) is outweighed by the fact that he gave criminal bankers a free pass to keep destroying lives.

I hope he drops out and goes into the woods with Hillary to eat risotto. Hth

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:56

Comrade Cheggorsky: Aug 20, 2011

Buttigieg 2028

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:56

white sauce: Apr 29, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Gringostar posted:

buttigieg will not win

it will be another bad dem that makes backroom deals

republicans will have a supermajority in 2018

trump will win reelection

we will all end up soulless corpses

eat arby's

This is certain

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:57

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Al!: Apr 2, 2010

G-Hawk posted:

surprise

meme magic is real

# ? Feb 22, 2017 20:58

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