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Risky Bisquick posted:Rumour: 1800X OC'd on LN2 to 5.14 GHz - 2449 Cinebench WR It seems to mirror Broadwell-E a lot in most aspects, so I'm now expecting 4.2Ghz all core on air and about 4.5Ghz all core on water. Obviously, the Hex's and Qauds should have an easier time reaching this since everything indicates it's a thermal issue. Ryzen also has percore overclocking, so it might be possible to OC one CCX and leave the other one stock or underclocked. Also that's the world record FYI, beating the 6950X on LN2 IIRC. AMD's multithreading is noticeably superior to Intels.
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Preorders work on amazon, you just need to click on the processor in those bundles to get to the individual product page (doesn't show up in searches for some reason). EDIT: apparently I got lucky, says not available now.
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Multiple sources have stated that the CPU availability should be plentiful at launch but decent motherboards will be hard to come by. Manufacturers apparently barely had time to finish the designs and did everything to get them out the door with BIOSes lacking optimizations and features, etc. Guess we'll find out soon enough! I fully agree that there's a good chance that later steppings will have significantly more OC headroom but 3.9/4.1 seems realistic and good enough for the top models at this point.
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Don Lapre posted:Will the chipsets still be shite I don't think it matters much anymore, most of the stuff is in the CPU, it's almost an SOC. gamersnexus posted:As printed in our motherboard article yesterday, most of the I/O is now handled on the CPUs themselves, making for more of an SOC approach rather than relying on a PCH or chipset for high-speed IO. This means that the CPU now carries all the relevant lanes for USB, SATA, NVMe, and PCIe general purpose use, with the chipset offering a few extra lanes and IO devices here and there. eames fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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I'm assuming Gigabyte is still poo poo for motherboards? It looks like Gigabyte and MSI are the only two with mATX at launch, so that'd leave MSI I guess as the choice. Edit - never mind, looks like ASUS and Asrock will too. So Asrock might be the best bet? Canned Sunshine fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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Don Lapre posted:Will the chipsets still be shite If my earlier amd, via and nvidia chipsets are anything to go by, yes Although there's a small chance AMD might finally produce a working chipset? lovely chipsets was one of the biggest reasons for moving to Intel.
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SourKraut posted:I'm assuming Gigabyte is still poo poo for motherboards? It looks like Gigabyte and MSI are the only two with mATX at launch, so that'd leave MSI I guess as the choice. Ive built out hundreds of gigabyte boards and they are fine.
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Last Gigabyte board I had died in a year. But this was a P35-DS3R so
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Ihmemies posted:nvidia chipsets Nforce 2 was epic
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FuturePastNow posted:AMD CPU and Platform Discussion: Hallelujah, He is Ryzen! I think you mean Platfrom
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AMD doing something good sounds too good to be true. I'll wait until there's proper reviews/benchmarks/real world tests out there.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:This opening of preorders ahead of NDA stinks more and more the longer I think about it. Its what all the best video games do....
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SwissArmyDruid posted:This opening of preorders ahead of NDA stinks more and more the longer I think about it. Well, it's AMD's marketing and sales department.  Anyway, I say everyone should wait for reviews from independent sources, better to wait just in case.
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Auron posted:AMD doing something good sounds too good to be true. I'll wait until there's proper reviews/benchmarks/real world tests out there. I expect these to run way hotter than many expect, particularly with XFR and the resulting absence of OC headroom. That's the one missing aspect that never got mentioned in any of the slides or planted leaks, not once. No temps, no details beyond unspecified TDP numbers (possibly at base not including XFR, let alone on all cores), no OC results, nothing. GloFo's gonna GloFo.
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K8.0 posted:We're talking about a GloFo product here, my money is on very significant gains in overclockability for later versions of these chips. I'm still going to sit on my 2500k for now, but I can definitely see it getting replaced in 9-12 months or whatever with a really significant upgrade that probably won't be meaningfully bested for a long time. Its not just the chips themselves that determine overclockability - you need good motherboards too and those will also get better with time.
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eames posted:Core voltage on LN2 It died 2 seconds after the screenshot was taken never to boot again. (just guessing HOLY poo poo VOLTAGE)
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Ihmemies posted:If my earlier amd, via and nvidia chipsets are anything to go by, yes I'm not sure I'd base much on 12 year old via and nvidia chipsets to be honest, different companies and over a decade out of date. And nforce2 was great anyway. Whatever AMD chipset ran my 965be was really good. GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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SwissArmyDruid posted:This opening of preorders ahead of NDA stinks more and more the longer I think about it.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:This opening of preorders ahead of NDA stinks more and more the longer I think about it. They did it for the 480 as well. Kinda a mixed bag. Preorders were useful in that they were the best way to get the thing at launch price, after that the price went up by like $30 for a couple months. Downside was that you got a launch 480. Nvidia had preorders for founders edition cards as well come to think about it. I dunno, preorders are dumb anywhere but at least they make some sense for a physical product that will probably not have enough stock to meet demand. Better than for digital games anyways. Seamonster posted:Its not just the chips themselves that determine overclockability - you need good motherboards too and those will also get better with time.
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Don Lapre posted:Ive built out hundreds of gigabyte boards and they are fine. Me too but recently way way more RMAs and odd poo poo happening. I converted to ASRock and ASUS. But yeah, back in the day Gigabyte mobos were rotten garbage with non-intel chipsets.
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Klyith posted:They did it for the 480 as well. Kinda a mixed bag. Preorders were useful in that they were the best way to get the thing at launch price, after that the price went up by like $30 for a couple months. Downside was that you got a launch 480. OTOH launch RX480 4GB were actually 8GB
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Klyith posted:Nvidia had preorders for founders edition cards as well come to think about it. I'm pretty sure reviews went up a few days before preorders did.
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Risky Bisquick posted:OTOH launch RX480 4GB were actually 8GB Can't wait for the 1700->1700X BIOS modding  Freakazoid_ posted:AMD CPU and Platform Discussion: Ryzen my pants so big, the threads ripped
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It's platfrom you fuckers
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:It's platfrom you fuckers I was thinking it too, but didn't have the energy to reply with it
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HalloKitty posted:I was thinking it too, but didn't have the energy to reply with it 
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