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"Barry! Pull a Reverse Flash!" "You mean a speed duplicate?" "No, vibro-fist, like what he killed me with, the memory of which being why I have PTSD." "Roger!"
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I hope that since Jessie is staying on Earth-1, than means Harry will too, at least for a while anyway. I want to see him become a foil for HR just so that I can get my fix of Tom Cavanaugh being a hilarious dick to Tom Cavanaugh 
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Feb 22, 2017 22:58
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I didn't catch if anyone has brought this up yet but, the thing with the darts bothered me a bit. I assumed that with his super metabolism, he wouldn't be vulnerable to any drug on the darts. I mean, he can't get drunk.
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Feb 22, 2017 23:15
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Gorilla darts. Grodd planned ahead. Now,why they didn't overdose everyone else...
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Feb 22, 2017 23:18
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And for that matter, how the hell did Grodd get Gypsy? Why was she on Earth 2?
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Feb 22, 2017 23:23
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Shaddak posted:And for that matter, how the hell did Grodd get Gypsy? Why was she on Earth 2? Earth-2 version of Gypsy?
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Feb 22, 2017 23:41
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Tarquinn posted:Forget about bullets and energy projectiles shot out of modern firearms. Slow-rear end darts from primitive blowguns are the Flash's one weakness. Able to dodge lightning bolts as they are within a couple feet of their destination Able to dodge a bullet as soon as he feels the pressure on his skin from it Defeated by blow darts
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Feb 22, 2017 23:44
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JohnnyCanuck posted:Tonight I watched a show where one actor portrayed three wildly different characters - one of whom was a homicidal psychic gorilla. But enough about Harry
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Feb 23, 2017 01:09
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Phylodox posted:Earth-2 version of Gypsy? Probably just caught her while she was searching for bounty on Earth 2 and was like, sup, u Grodd now
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Feb 23, 2017 01:10
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6-year plan man posted:Tom cavanagh makes this show great how many different characters has he been now after tonight? This was a ways back, but I wanna say around 8 different Wells. 1. Real Harrison Wells 2. Fake Harrison Wells 3. Harry 4. HR 5. Grodd Wells 6. 7. 8. Other Earth Wells that they interviewed? I could be wrong, but he is undoubtedly the best part of this show and I can't wait to see what weird versions of him they have down the line. I wish Ollie and HR could interact because that would be the best thing this show's done.
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Feb 23, 2017 01:28
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There was also Harry pretending to be Fake Wells/Reverse Flash for the better part of an episode in Season 2. And didn't HR also pretend to be Eobard to scar the poo poo out of Cisco to try and boost his vibe powers through adrenaline, or was that also Harry? I never thought I'd say this, but the number of Wellses on this show is too drat high 
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Feb 23, 2017 02:02
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Blasphemy.
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Feb 23, 2017 02:13
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They should have put him in drag as Henrietta from Earth 74 who also cracked the code.
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Feb 23, 2017 02:14
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I'm really enjoying the assumption that any events changed in the present would completely alter the short-term future so that other major events never happen Like, this criminal was caught and arrested at the exact same place and time, but a second guy he was with took credit for it. Therefore, The main character and main villain would never end up in the same public square that has nothing to do with that other event aside from some text on a news ticker. As opposed to some poo poo like "Hey Iris, take a really long vacation next month, just hang out in Greece or something. If the main bad guy cares enough about killing loved ones in front of me he'll go fetch you and bring you here anyway, meaning that changing events would have been a waste of time"
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Feb 23, 2017 04:38
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I can't wait to see Harry and HR get some (more) screen time together. It's going to be amazing. Honestly I just a full on Wellsception up in this.
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Space Crabs posted:Able to dodge lightning bolts as they are within a couple feet of their destination Also, remember that time Arrow tried to use a poison dart on him and Barry just vibrated the poison out? Neither do the writers.
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Feb 23, 2017 06:34
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Or the time Barry felt a much-faster bullet being fired and grabbed it off his neck before it penetrated? It just feels lazy. If it's that hard to figure out how to incapacitate your hero, then just don't. It would have been a better story if Barry and company had kept a position of autonomy and had gotten duped into doing Grodd's dirty work anyway. They didn't need to get captured for the general plot to occur in the first place.
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Feb 23, 2017 06:50
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Man Gorilla City is one sad excuse for a city. A jungle, a basement, and an arena. Not impressed.
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Feb 23, 2017 06:53
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WarLocke posted:I can't wait to see Harry and HR get some (more) screen time together. It's going to be amazing. he's gonna be piiiiiiiiissed
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LentThem posted:I'm really enjoying the assumption that any events changed in the present would completely alter the short-term future so that other major events never happen Or they could just kill her preemptively. Then the main bad guy would have to go back in time and create FlashSpot alternate timeline to make sure that she exists to kill as prophesied.
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Sir Potato posted:This was a ways back, but I wanna say around 8 different Wells. He's like Olivia from Fringe at this point 1. Oliva 2. Fauxlivia 3. Olivia playing Fauxlivia 4. Fauxlivia playing Olivia 5. Alt-timeline Olivia 6. Still alt-timeline but restored memory Olivia 7. Spock
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Feb 23, 2017 09:50
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It's kind of dumb that being held in rusty cages was seen as a problem when they got one guy who can phase through objects, another who can open rifts, and might be wrong on this part but just freezing then breaking the bars might also work?
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They pretty specifically addressed that. They did handwave it away and totally ignore Caitlyn but they did address it.
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Yeah it was kind of annoying that whatever Grodd had seemed to completely neutralise Cisco's powers, but only seemed to prevent Barry from phasing. I guess it was a problem where they wanted to have Barry fight Solovar with powers, but it still seems kind of dumb. Also the whole "Caitlin, your powers probably work! You should use them to kill Cisco!" was just completely 
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irlZaphod posted:Yeah it was kind of annoying that whatever Grodd had seemed to completely neutralise Cisco's powers, but only seemed to prevent Barry from phasing. I guess it was a problem where they wanted to have Barry fight Solovar with powers, but it still seems kind of dumb. Grodd wanted Flash to defeat Solovar, so presumably he stopped suppressing them for the fight, and then again when he thought Flash was dead.
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I think he had his powers in the cage though? iirc he was vibrating but just couldn't phase through it.
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Feb 23, 2017 18:32
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Grodd just made an energy dampener like they used in the prisoner convoy episode. He made them out of coconuts, I've seen it done before by a Profession, a Skipper, and his little buddy.
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Feb 23, 2017 18:35
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Shaddak posted:I didn't catch if anyone has brought this up yet but, the thing with the darts bothered me a bit. I assumed that with his super metabolism, he wouldn't be vulnerable to any drug on the darts. I mean, he can't get drunk. It was a slow poison 
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They never bothered to explain WHY the cage stopped Barry so its pointless to try and figure out why it stopped Cisco and Caitlyn. Its a cheap move to just handwave it away but the handwave works for all of them.
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Feb 24, 2017 01:29
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Sir Potato posted:
Honestly, I was just super stoked that they actually showed Gorilla City. Never thought I'd see a live action version when I was a kid watching cartoons.
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STAC Goat posted:They never bothered to explain WHY the cage stopped Barry so its pointless to try and figure out why it stopped Cisco and Caitlyn. Its a cheap move to just handwave it away but the handwave works for all of them. The bars stop superpowers, but Caitlin just stuck her arm between them so all her cold powers were already inside Barry's cell whenever she used them. 
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Feb 24, 2017 04:50
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on top of all the other awful contrivances "Grod kidnapped Wells as he is the only one over here who can open a rift, if we rescue him there is no other way to open a rift". Jesse comes to Earth 1 through a rift. Grodd has leather pyramid boob lady anyway I guess the Sisko doesn't have (or need) his Vibe gear any more.
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STAC Goat posted:They never bothered to explain WHY the cage stopped Barry so its pointless to try and figure out why it stopped Cisco and Caitlyn. Its a cheap move to just handwave it away but the handwave works for all of them. They said Grodd was suppressing their powers.
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Mr Beens posted:on top of all the other awful contrivances Speedsters can naturally travel between dimensions using the speed force - Barry did it several times last season. He just uses Cisco because it's easier. As for Cisco, I think the gear just amplifies his ability and helps give him greater control. He can do the basic stuff without it.
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Mr Beens posted:Grodd has leather pyramid boob lady anyway Pretty sure he caught her after they left as a backup plan. I assume it's a lot harder to go get someone that powerful on their Earth than lure someone onto your home turf, so that plan was a hail mary that worked. See, writers? This stuff isn't hard! You can explain it in like two sentences in-character!
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The Lord Bude posted:Speedsters can naturally travel between dimensions using the speed force - Barry did it several times last season. He just uses Cisco because it's easier. Barry also doesn't have the pinpoint control Cisco does.
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Feb 24, 2017 15:26
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Barry is also a massive gently caress-up and is likely to somehow destroy the multiverse while simply attempting to go to another Earth.
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Feb 24, 2017 15:44
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To be fair, this time, no one told Barry to run faster. So, of course, he couldn't do it.
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It wasn't as bad as the time Zoom trapped Barry in a glass cupboard and he couldn't work out how to escape until Zoom phased through it to beat him up.
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