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enraged_camel posted:I had actually completely forgotten that it was Valentine's Day. I usually do a pretty good job of tuning that stuff out. You're a total joy.
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Oh look, the TV/IV police is once again dictating how shows must be watched and what elements have to be enjoyed. Why am I not surprised...
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Feb 22, 2017 19:49
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enraged_camel posted:I had actually completely forgotten that it was Valentine's Day. I usually do a pretty good job of tuning that stuff out. lol enraged_camel posted:Oh look, the TV/IV police is once again dictating how shows must be watched and what elements have to be enjoyed. Why am I not surprised... Nope. Enjoy it however you want. Just don't expect Something Awful to quietly respect your views. I think it's pretty funny that you are doubling down on this. Like, Alex and Maggie is a huge, gigantic, massive plot point. Alex realizing who she is, Maggie letting go of her past, the two of them experiencing something wonderful for maybe the first time. I don't know what enjoyment you get out of the show without the relationship drama, to be honest. It's on the CW; that's the point. Oliver is sleeping with the reporter who is digging into his past and has discovered the Bratva connection and just relaized he's actually the Arrow. Barry and Iris have a no-chemistry relationship that is in danger because of some possible future where Savatar murders Iris. And on Legends, bland white guy number two slept with lady-from-the-30s. So. Yeah. Aleph Null fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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Feb 22, 2017 20:23
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Aleph Null posted:Nope. Enjoy it however you want. Just don't expect Something Awful to quietly respect your views. I think it's pretty funny that you are doubling down on this. Like I said, I don't have a problem with romance plots. What I do have a problem is when an entire episode is filled with them. Not sure why this is a controversial opinion. Yeah, it was Valentines Day. But did it ever occur to you that some people watch television as a form of escapism? After the retarded Winn-James-Kara love triangle at the beginning of the first season, the show actually made a lot of improvements in the romance department to the point where it now explores fairly mature subtopics like Alex realizing she is into girls, Kara having to accept that she can't call dibs on Alex's time and attention whenever she wants, Jon developing feelings for someone whose race genocided his own. All that stuff is very interesting to watch. This episode was just awful though, because the main plot point was an extremely cliche romance plot where the "villain" tries really really hard to "win over" Kara's love, and there is once again a love triangle, this time between Myx, Mon El and Kara. The whole "two potential suitors fighting over a girl" thing is just dumb as hell and I had hoped the show had moved beyond that. quote:I don't know what enjoyment you get out of the show without the relationship drama, to be honest. It's on the CW; that's the point. I'm not certain the network has anything to do with anything. Last year it was on the CBS, and had lovely romance there too.
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enraged_camel posted:Like I said, I don't have a problem with romance plots. What I do have a problem is when an entire episode is filled with them. Not sure why this is a controversial opinion. Yeah, it was Valentines Day. But did it ever occur to you that some people watch television as a form of escapism? 
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Feb 22, 2017 21:05
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enraged_camel posted:This episode was just awful though, because the main plot point was an extremely cliche romance plot where the "villain" tries really really hard to "win over" Kara's love, and there is once again a love triangle, this time between Myx, Mon El and Kara. The whole "two potential suitors fighting over a girl" thing is just dumb as hell and I had hoped the show had moved beyond that. Counterpoint: it was adorable.
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Feb 22, 2017 22:11
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Yeah. Mon-El's antics were some of the best parts about that episode. Chris Wood has a surprising gift for comedy and I can't wait to see what he's gonna do in the musical crossover next month.
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Feb 22, 2017 22:33
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enraged_camel posted:Oh look, the TV/IV police is once again dictating how shows must be watched and what elements have to be enjoyed. Why am I not surprised... 
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Feb 22, 2017 22:34
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nine-gear crow posted:Yeah. Mon-El's antics were some of the best parts about that episode. Chris Wood has a surprising gift for comedy and I can't wait to see what he's gonna do in the musical crossover next month. Indeed. The argument scene between him and Kara was like screwball comedy done well. Their whole relationship has been like that, to be honest. I might watch the episode again.
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Feb 22, 2017 22:43
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I hope next episode opens up with tiny superman arriving unannounced in Kara's apartment to ask what the hell happened to the fortress
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Feb 22, 2017 22:54
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lolin at the guy whos super mad a CW show had an episode devoted to valentines day. like wtf??? hahahahahahahahahahaha
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Feb 22, 2017 22:55
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Azhais posted:I hope next episode opens up with tiny superman arriving unannounced in Kara's apartment to ask what the hell happened to the fortress Nothing happened to it. When Mxy vanished all the damage was undone.
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Feb 22, 2017 22:56
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I'm not super into the Kara/Mon El relationship but I'll change my mind if they turn out to be one of those couples who always break into public bickering. Then I'll be shipping them forever, because they're hilarious when they do that. bull3964 posted:I'm a little confused how we went from super underground alien bar to Winn being able to go to a normal restaurant with an alien. I assume that there's been a kind of behind the scenes general movement towards alien acceptance. The show has hit it broadly with the Cadmus stuff and Presidential rights bill episode. Between Supergirl becoming the beloved hero of National City and the general political movements I assume that National City has become one of the more tolerant cities to aliens. Which is to say that I thought the obvious (not even) subtext of the Wynn storyline was that his date expected he was just looking for a thrill and wouldn't risk the social stigmas of dating her publicly, and there's probably quite a few people in that restaurant who were staring at her in disgust but Wynn simply didn't care about them.
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Feb 22, 2017 23:02
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I enjoy romances on TV, I just don't like Kara and Mon-El here. Maggie and Alex's plot was good precisely because it was understated, it was forthright, it knew what it wanted to do and did it; setup, conflict, resolution. Wham, bam, thank you ma'ams. Kara and Mon-El are getting too convoluted for me. Sometimes they like each other. Sometimes they don't like each other. Sometimes he likes her but she doesn't like him. Sometimes she likes him but he doesn't like her. Sometimes all this get swapped in a matter of minutes. Waah, feelings are so confusing! On and on with inflating the relationship then deflating it and then purple-prosing it on her apartment couch at the end of like three episodes straight now. It's starting to remind me of the way they handled James' relationship with her last year in how needlessly twisted and drawn-out it was for a whole season, and don't think even that was ever as tangled as this.
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Feb 22, 2017 23:32
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Azhais posted:I hope next episode opens up with tiny superman arriving unannounced in Kara's apartment to ask what the hell happened to the fortress It will never cease to amaze me how the internet thinks 6ft tall Tyler Hoechlin is "tiny" somehow 
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Feb 22, 2017 23:32
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I have watched these DC-CW shows from the beginning and this Kara- Mon'el relationship is almost Oliver felicity levels of groan inducing. Which is a shame because I actually like mon'el and Kara as characters and I don't mind the relationship stuff in the other shows. I think it's even more egregious since we know that something will happen when those aliens arrive. I liked the luthors episode a lot but this relationship stuff is really dragging this 2nd half of the season down and makes it feel like 90% of the show.
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Feb 23, 2017 00:22
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Comparison with Olicity is Godwin's Law for TV relationships. I'm not a fan of KaraMel either, but come on.
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Feb 23, 2017 00:39
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I'm not "into" Kara/Mon but I'm not sure I ever thought it (or Oliver/Felicity) was "egregious." Like, its just two perfectly likable characters in a relationship that I'm not personally invested in.
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I'm not that bothered by it and I exaggerated but I think it's more representative of I just don't like this season as much as the first one. Hopefully with Cadmus back things will get better or I'm just getting sick of cw romance stuff I guess.
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I think Benoist and Wood have pretty good chemistry. The romance is a bit meh though, at least thus far. I think the reason a lot of people aren't excited by it is because it removes a lot of the romantic tension from their friendship. That tension is why the whole Felicity & Oliver thing worked so well before it actually became a thing. Felicity had a crush on him, Oliver knew it because she was always so awkward and bumbly about it, and it was great comic relief (especially because Rickards played the part remarkably well). Then they hooked up and things went downhill fast, ending up as one of the worst, most cringe-worthy romances in CW history. While I don't think Supergirl and Mon El will be anywhere near as bad, it's also full of pitfalls the writers can find themselves in if they aren't careful.
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Yeah, I think the only reason we're all so cold on Kara/Mon is that the second he showed up it was pretty obvious he was there to be a love interest and he's never really established much character beyond that. But he's still a nice enough guy.
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STAC Goat posted:But he's still a nice enough guy. Yeah, I'm really glad they didn't make him the stereotypical frat guy douchebag like it was hinted at some point. He clearly has his differences with Kara, but that's a good thing.
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Feb 23, 2017 01:49
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It'll all come to a head in a handful of episodes, when she finds out he's now king of dead planet, that's not really dead.
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I am angry on the internet about a show! nah not really, this was a great take on Mxyzsptlk
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enraged_camel posted:Yeah, I'm really glad they didn't make him the stereotypical frat guy douchebag like it was hinted at some point. He clearly has his differences with Kara, but that's a good thing. But he is the stereotypical frat guy who's changing ~for love~.
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Chokes McGee posted:I am angry on the internet about a show! nah not really, this was a great take on Mxyzsptlk Also I finally found out exactly how you're supposed to pronounce that name.
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STAC Goat posted:I assume that there's been a kind of behind the scenes general movement towards alien acceptance. The show has hit it broadly with the Cadmus stuff and Presidential rights bill episode. Between Supergirl becoming the beloved hero of National City and the general political movements I assume that National City has become one of the more tolerant cities to aliens.
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WarLocke posted:Also I finally found out exactly how you're supposed to pronounce that name. Gilbert Gottfried already showed you how to pronounce it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWuVMmL8Q_8
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WarLocke posted:Also I finally found out exactly how you're supposed to pronounce that name. They actually did both versions: DCAU (mix-yes-spit-lick) and the "official" version (mix-yes-spittle-ick). I do like how the writers took one look at his unsummon and went "nah we're writing that."
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Chokes McGee posted:They actually did both versions: DCAU (mix-yes-spit-lick) and the "official" version (mix-yes-spittle-ick). It was like how Arrow used both pronunciations of Ra's
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Senerio posted:Gilbert Gottfried already showed you how to pronounce it. I haven't seen S:TAS in years and that Yes album joke made me crack up.
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After seeing Mr. Mxyzsptlk portrayed as a suave suitor trying to woo Supergirl, I told my roommate how cool it would be if the show got Joe Mangienello to play Lobo as the bad boy equivalent.
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howe_sam posted:It was like how Arrow used both pronunciations of Ra's *Barrowman smashes through ceilings of the forums* I'M PROUNCED RAH'S-Al-GOOL
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Chokes McGee posted:*Barrowman smashes through ceilings of the forums* I'M PROUNCED RAH'S-Al-GOOL "I used to be pronounced RAYSH-al-Ghul"
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I want some guy then to come in and go "I'm Roger Gool".
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GreenNight posted:I want some guy then to come in and go "I'm Roger Gool". "I take it we never got around to getting the security fixed?"
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McSpanky posted:"I used to be pronounced RAYSH-al-Ghul" Raja Ghoul?
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Chortles posted:I kind of wish the show further delved into the obvious difference between Kryptonians and other alien races -- namely, that the Kryptonians (and Mon-El) can pass for human -- even if only in some background character on camera admitting that that's why they like Superman and Supergirl so much. Beyond that though a lot of the "serves the plot of the week" tidbits seem like they'd be hella interesting were they taken seriously and elaborated on, otherwise it just feels like a bunch of goodies left on the table. They touched on it very lightly with J'onn struggling with showing his Martian form after decades of hiding as a human. But yeah, it would be interesting to have them really touch on the probably obvious bigotry towards aliens who look like aliens and how Kara and Mon have it comparatively easy. And it was nice that Wynn never seemed to hesitate at dating the alien who looked different since he had already had a crush on an alien who looked human. He got past whatever bias he might have had nice and easy, but the way they did that restaurant scene I could see it coming up later with this relationship.
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STAC Goat posted:But yeah, it would be interesting to have them really touch on the probably obvious bigotry towards aliens who look like aliens and how Kara and Mon have it comparatively easy. Alternately or in conjunction, if it were publicly known/claimed that Superman had lived on Earth practically his whole life whereas Supergirl had arrived later in life, I could also see someone admitting that they relate to Superman over Supergirl because it's easier to mentally frame the former as "a human with powers" than "alien" and thus "one of us" despite the obvious contradiction with the nature of their powers. One definite thing that stood out to me about the show's worldbuilding over both seasons (aka why I want Supergirl to never be rolled over into Earth-1) is that the lopsided prevalance of aliens over metahumans* in Earth-38 National City probably makes a lot easier for the latter to be mistaken for the latter than on Earth-1... wouldn't be the first time that happened. * Similarly the first third of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. had Ghost Rider being assumed an Inhuman twice. STAC Goat posted:And it was nice that Wynn never seemed to hesitate at dating the alien who looked different since he had already had a crush on an alien who looked human. He got past whatever bias he might have had nice and easy, but the way they did that restaurant scene I could see it coming up later with this relationship.
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