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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Uranium has a Pokemon with five STABs. I am now really curious about how that happens. I'm going to guess that they haven't given a single Pokemon five types. I'm going to hope that they haven't given a single Pokemon five types.
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Feb 22, 2017 22:22
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Uranium has a Pokemon with five STABs. That's like half a Greninja! 
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Feb 22, 2017 22:22
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I have extremely fond memories in HG/SS of getting a Rattata, training it until it learned Crunch, letting it evolve, and then completely no-selling the entire Ghost gym. Good times, even though looking back I have no clue why I didn't stop at any of the other Dark-type attacks. Probably would have been easier to just power through with my existing pokemon but not nearly as cool.
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Feb 23, 2017 00:34
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Pinechild posted:I have extremely fond memories in HG/SS of getting a Rattata, training it until it learned Crunch, letting it evolve, and then completely no-selling the entire Ghost gym. Good times, even though looking back I have no clue why I didn't stop at any of the other Dark-type attacks. Probably would have been easier to just power through with my existing pokemon but not nearly as cool. You can do that with just bite. One of Mortys Gengar is literally incapable of hitting normal types and like half the mons in the gym can only hurt them with curse.
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Feb 23, 2017 01:36
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Zore posted:You can do that with just bite. One of Mortys Gengar is literally incapable of hitting normal types and like half the mons in the gym can only hurt them with curse. I'm sorry, Morty. It's a bummer. In reality you're as dumb as they come.
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Feb 23, 2017 02:19
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Uranium has a Pokemon with five STABs. You see, this sounds silly but then I remember that Protean exists.
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Feb 23, 2017 02:54
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alcharagia posted:
This still gets me. Although I'd also like to talk some more about how gosh-darned cute Owlten is, despite a dumb name. Flying kitten? Sign me up! Just don't tell me what horrors Uranium is going to inflict on its evolutions.
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Feb 23, 2017 03:48
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there are trade evolutions in this fangame
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ZeroCount posted:You see, this sounds silly but then I remember that Protean exists. I never really saw the appeal of type-changing abilities like Protean. Can someone explain it to me, preferably in small words? VVV Huh, got it. Still doesn't much appeal to me personally, I make 'rainbow teams' for as many types as I can cover with only 6 pokemon, but I can see why other people would like it. Malachite_Dragon fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Feb 23, 2017 |
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Feb 23, 2017 05:01
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Malachite_Dragon posted:I never really saw the appeal of type-changing abilities like Protean. Can someone explain it to me, preferably in small words? Protean changes your type before your attack, so you always have STAB.
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Feb 23, 2017 05:05
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Malachite_Dragon posted:I never really saw the appeal of type-changing abilities like Protean. Can someone explain it to me, preferably in small words? When the user is the same type as the move they chose, it gets a 1.5x damage boost. Protean activates before you make your move. Meaning that you have 4 different moves you will always have a damage boost on. Not only that, since it changes your type, it can be used defensively to gain a resistance or an immunity to an incoming move. It makes it very hard for your opponent to read the situation.
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Feb 23, 2017 05:06
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Hunter Noventa posted:Protean changes your type before your attack, so you always have STAB. It can (and often is) used defensively by doing things like using a Normal Move (to avoid Ghost-type moves), a Ghost Move (to avoid Normal/Fighting-type moves), a Dark Move (to avoid Psychic moves) and so on. I forget if Greninja can learn Earthquake, but if it can then that makes it functionally immune to Electric stuff, too. Aerial Ace protects it from Earthquake, and so on. e:f;b
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Feb 23, 2017 05:07
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KataraniSword posted:I forget if Greninja can learn Earthquake, but if it can then that makes it functionally immune to Electric stuff, too. Aerial Ace protects it from Earthquake, and so on. Bulbapedia says no, but it learns Spikes by leveling up* and can learn Mud Sport via breeding. Non-damaging moves, but still Ground Type. *At level 28, when it evolves at 36, and Frogadier can't learn it... What the hell, Game Freak? Malachite_Dragon fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Feb 23, 2017 |
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Feb 23, 2017 05:08
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Malachite_Dragon posted:Bulbapedia says no, but it learns Spikes by leveling up* and can learn Mud Sport via breeding. Non-damaging moves, but still Ground Type. Heart Scales are always a thing, but at least you have access to the move tutor relatively early in the XY games. In Sun and Moon, you don't have access until the Pokémon league and Alolan Marowak learns a move called Shadow Bone at level 27. Literally one level before Cubone can actually evolve into Alolan Marowak at level 28. Speaking of which, I'm willing to bet that Uranium also has that kind of dickery in their Pokémon movepools as well and the move tutor is in a post-game area or something.
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Feb 23, 2017 05:53
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Pokemon Uranium: Everything is in the post-game.
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Feb 23, 2017 06:04
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Dr. Fetus posted:it can be used defensively to gain a resistance or an immunity to an incoming move. It makes it very hard for your opponent to read the situation. That replay is disgusting in the best way. Malachite_Dragon posted:*At level 28, when it evolves at 36, and Frogadier can't learn it... What the hell, Game Freak? Remember that episode of the anime when they tried to justify why Pikachu doesn't evolve? It was always sort of intended for pre-evolutions to get a better movepool than their evolved forms, as a sort of incentive for training their weaker forms longer. Nobody cared, though, so the concept was mostly ditched after the first generation. EDIT: Wait, nevermind, you're saying literally the opposite of what I thought you were. Imagine I responded to someone asking why moves exclusive to pre-evolutions exist.
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Feb 23, 2017 06:10
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The unique Pokemon in Uranium look uninspired, but they've got nothing on the ones in Quartz. The starting three Pokemon are all different colored eggs, and also there is this ugly bear that somehow has the ability to charm the gender opposite of its own. I don't remember the storyline from Quartz, though, and I know it had better design decisions.
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Feb 23, 2017 07:47
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...Why is a yellow palm tree fighting a baby made out of crap?
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Feb 23, 2017 08:04
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get that OUT of my face posted:The unique Pokemon in Uranium look uninspired, but they've got nothing on the ones in Quartz. The starting three Pokemon are all different colored eggs, and also there is this ugly bear that somehow has the ability to charm the gender opposite of its own. there was definitely a sort of charm to Quartz' brand of nonsense. Might just be because of nostalgia? Man that's an old hack now, huh? The plot was not-team magma using quartz to inflate the sun.
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Feb 23, 2017 08:07
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Regalingualius posted:...Why is a yellow palm tree fighting a baby made out of crap? Its clearly a poo-based fertility idol
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Feb 23, 2017 08:16
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Swap.bear is the best pokemon and I will brook no dissent on this matter.
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Feb 23, 2017 08:27
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I seem to recall they got Baro the creator a gift SA account which promptly got autobanned after the first post for using banned meme text.
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Feb 23, 2017 12:19
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CrazySalamander posted:I seem to recall they got Baro the creator a gift SA account which promptly got autobanned after the first post for using banned meme text. This is 100% true. It's also not the only time a creator of a romhack has been gifted an account by LPers and then banned within the same day.
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Feb 23, 2017 22:15
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All I remember is that FF6 romhack author who outed themselves as being a connoisseur of My Little Pony porn.
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Feb 23, 2017 22:37
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Regalingualius posted:All I remember is that FF6 romhack author who outed themselves as being a connoisseur of My Little Pony porn. Pretty sure the FFT 1.3 guy spent most of his time calling the entire forum "filthy casuals" who were playing his masterpiece wrong or something of the sort, too. Regardless, he wasn't around long.
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Feb 23, 2017 22:48
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KataraniSword posted:Pretty sure the FFT 1.3 guy spent most of his time calling the entire forum "filthy casuals" who were playing his masterpiece wrong or something of the sort, too. Regardless, he wasn't around long.
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Feb 23, 2017 23:03
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KataraniSword posted:Pretty sure the FFT 1.3 guy spent most of his time calling the entire forum "filthy casuals" who were playing his masterpiece wrong or something of the sort, too. Regardless, he wasn't around long. Didn't he try to post a LP of a solo Archer run he was doing which was incredibly loving boring?
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Feb 23, 2017 23:39
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Not a surprise, since there is exactly one way you CAN play FFT1.3 and it's the most boring and tedious thing in the world. And doing anything else makes it impossible anyway. He doesn't exactly have a good track record by making entertaining things actually be, y'know, entertaining.
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Feb 23, 2017 23:51
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theshim posted:IIRC he came back later and was actually not a dick? It's been a while. His involvement in the 1.3 LP actually resulted in the creation of 1.3 Content, a spinoff that allowed players to play with the changes without story battles scaling with your level. Basically the original 1.3 requires you to level by smacking your own guys with one character so only that character levels up. You level the other characters using spillover JP only. Then you have to kick out the one leveled character so your overall level drops, thereby keeping the story battles winnable. If you don't do this, it is very easy to end up with an unwinnable game about 5-6 battles in. It's very poorly designed. 1.3 Content is actually reasonable and fun to play.
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Feb 24, 2017 00:02
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get that OUT of my face posted:The unique Pokemon in Uranium look uninspired, but they've got nothing on the ones in Quartz. The starting three Pokemon are all different colored eggs, and also there is this ugly bear that somehow has the ability to charm the gender opposite of its own. Turdbear
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Feb 24, 2017 00:51
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Dragonatrix posted:Not a surprise, since there is exactly one way you CAN play FFT1.3 and it's the most boring and tedious thing in the world. And doing anything else makes it impossible anyway. He doesn't exactly have a good track record by making entertaining things actually be, y'know, entertaining. I find that FFT 1.3's battle design suffers from the exact same problem that Pokemon Uranium does: The designer has a very specific solution to the game in mind, and if you can't figure it out, gently caress you.
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Feb 24, 2017 05:17
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inthesto posted:I find that FFT 1.3's battle design suffers from the exact same problem that Pokemon Uranium does: The designer has a very specific solution to the game in mind, and if you can't figure it out, gently caress you. Likewise, both are better if you cheat and cut out the grind. OFS programmed cheap Rare Candy into the first shop so he wouldn't have to grind on random mons, and the old 1.3 thread cheated to make JP grinding a non-issue.
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Feb 24, 2017 05:51
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Can it really be called cheating if the game designer did it first? I mean 1.3 had some cool ideas but it essentially turned a great tactical RPG into a puzzle game
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Feb 24, 2017 06:00
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Alacron posted:Likewise, both are better if you cheat and cut out the grind. OFS programmed cheap Rare Candy into the first shop so he wouldn't have to grind on random mons, and the old 1.3 thread cheated to make JP grinding a non-issue. I remember the specific thing that made FFT 1.3 cross over from "insane but potentially interesting hack" to "active dickery": When somebody discovered a way to circumvent FFT 1.3's batshit insane leveling method (without cheating; it was a bizarre exploit just like the intended FFT 1.3 leveling method), the designer messed with the code to get rid of it. Rather than embracing players figuring stuff out, he demanded that people play the way he wanted them to.
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Feb 24, 2017 06:03
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rannum posted:there was definitely a sort of charm to Quartz' brand of nonsense. Might just be because of nostalgia? Man that's an old hack now, huh?
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Feb 24, 2017 06:05
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Actually the worst thing about FFT 1.3 was the mod author's OC do not steal boss with 999 hp that only ever took a maximum of 1 damage from any attack, and could instantly turn your characters into crystals. Someone figured out that if you positioned yourself very specifically you could get him to walk back and forth onto spike traps which dealt percentage damage, circumventing all his bullshit shields. The modder promptly threw a fit and patched battlefield traps so they did not affect his super dude.
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Feb 24, 2017 06:08
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professor_curly posted:Actually the worst thing about FFT 1.3 was the mod author's OC do not steal boss with 999 hp that only ever took a maximum of 1 damage from any attack, and could instantly turn your characters into crystals. Someone figured out that if you positioned yourself very specifically you could get him to walk back and forth onto spike traps which dealt percentage damage, circumventing all his bullshit shields. So the FFT 1.3 guy was the kind of rear end in a top hat who looked at all the bullshit surrounding Absolute Virtue in FFXI and thought Square-Enix had the right idea. I hate him already, jesus loving christ
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Feb 24, 2017 06:14
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professor_curly posted:Actually the worst thing about FFT 1.3 was the mod author's OC do not steal boss with 999 hp that only ever took a maximum of 1 damage from any attack, and could instantly turn your characters into crystals. Someone figured out that if you positioned yourself very specifically you could get him to walk back and forth onto spike traps which dealt percentage damage, circumventing all his bullshit shields. I mean, I'm surprised Square-Enix didn't find the guy and hire him onto their MMO staff after that. e:f;b
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Feb 24, 2017 06:15
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Malachite_Dragon posted:So the FFT 1.3 guy was the kind of rear end in a top hat who looked at all the bullshit surrounding Absolute Virtue in FFXI and thought Square-Enix had the right idea. If I, someone who has never touched FFXI, know what you're talking about when it comes to that insane boss, then this FFT 1.3 dude really must be a complete dipshit to be compared in such a way. Has anyone yet beaten that stupid boss the way SE intended them to, or did people stop giving a poo poo about it?
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Feb 24, 2017 06:20
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Didn't Archael post here for a while when someone LP'd his game? Did he stick around?
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bman in 2288 posted:If I, someone who has never touched FFXI, know what you're talking about when it comes to that insane boss, then this FFT 1.3 dude really must be a complete dipshit to be compared in such a way. I just looked it up. The level cap was raised and so the boss's big "gently caress you" mode turned into just annoying instead of a party wipe. It's now fairly trivial to kill the boss with 6 people. But no, as far as I can tell no one actually did it the intended way.
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