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Sion posted:Like- that's the street I stayed on when I lived in boro. It looks a lot like how I remember it but then again there's a generic 'grim northern town side street' image in my head. He's in Newcassel, not Middlesbrough.
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Sion posted:Like- that's the street I stayed on when I lived in boro. It looks a lot like how I remember it but then again there's a generic 'grim northern town side street' image in my head. i'm in newcastle bristol is far too hilly
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Feb 23, 2017 12:27
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it does have some of the steepest hills around, and you probably didn't even see the really steep ones in Totterdown.
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Feb 23, 2017 12:28
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i was only there over night and didn't go into the city centre
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Feb 23, 2017 12:28
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oh. well that's more time than I've spent in Newcastle. I lived in Liverpool for two years and in some respects it's similar to Bristol. e/ that is to say good music scene, good quality pills and weed and everyone likes to get wrecked. and lots of hills. and docks.
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Feb 23, 2017 12:31
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Hills are the major negative about living in Bristol And yet somehow 11 years after moving here I'm still a fat out-of-shape gently caress 
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Feb 23, 2017 12:39
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I live in about the flattest part of America, trust me, hills are great, everything is so loving flat here. I've cycled up park street and st michaels hill, they're not that bad. hills give you views. I love seeing the mendips in the distance, or the avon gorge.
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Feb 23, 2017 12:42
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Jose posted:i'm in newcastle to be fair, it's all the same poo poo between Leeds and Carlisle.
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Feb 23, 2017 12:55
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I went to Newcastle once. Well, I changed trains in Newcastle anyway. I quite enjoyed this Long Read on The Graun about the Oxford PPE, not that it really says anything new. And it's a bit annoying how the contemporary criticisms were focused on those from right wing people. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Feb 23, 2017 |
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That John Harris video in Stoke is so loving depressing. It reminds me of his article that says the world is now too complex, that most people just want an answer to whatever their question is and don't want to know about shades of grey. Like during the referendum where people were just shouting on Question Time to get "the facts" all the time instead of having the knowledge to find them personally. How can people not know there's an election in Stoke? How can the turnout be so low? I'd like to blame it just on Blair/Thatcher but I also think it's to do with having FTTP and so many votes being wasted. When people I knew voted Labour last time and their constituency went Tory they'd say "Well why did I even bother?" and it's true, why did they?
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Feb 23, 2017 12:58
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I went to an all you can eat restaurant with all these different buffets/school canteen stations in it in Newcastle and it was very cool so far as taking four children to any restaurant can be.
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Feb 23, 2017 12:59
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...because if enough other people had been persuaded the constituency may have returned a labour mp?
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Feb 23, 2017 13:01
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Taear posted:How can the turnout be so low?
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Feb 23, 2017 13:02
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I'd also say the people saying that labour isn't "patriotic" enough is really worrying. Someone I know who voted leave now calls themselves English exclusively because "Scottish people never say they're british" although I don't know where she's got that from.quote:Because the town is loving wank and has been run by Labour for decades. Do people really think UKIP is going to fix their town? No. Do people think the Tories can be trusted with Stoke? Also probably no. So in a choice between some guy from a town over who says a choice you made is poo poo and anyone else it's like "can I really be arsed to in theory support this guy?".
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Feb 23, 2017 13:03
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wonder how much time tristram hunt actually spent in stoke
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Taear posted:I guess to me all that matters is the national picture
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Taear posted:That John Harris video in Stoke is so loving depressing. It reminds me of his article that says the world is now too complex, that most people just want an answer to whatever their question is and don't want to know about shades of grey. Like during the referendum where people were just shouting on Question Time to get "the facts" all the time instead of having the knowledge to find them personally. People are really not at home with things being social constructs or best current models, even though positivism has been out of favor for a while. I think that links into the rise of the right as a backlash against postmodernism and whatever they think cultural Marxism is, one that claims to be rooted in absolute values even as it splits into pieces.
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Feb 23, 2017 13:07
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Fellow who murdered Helen Bailey and her dog has got 34 years and they are now investigating the sudden death of his first wife because of the massive life insurance he had on her and her hasty cremation. He said he found her dead in the garden, because she had epilepsy they put that down as the most likely cause. Doubt they will ever prove anything unless he confesses but he's still sticking to the "two men came to the house and kidnapped her" story on Bailey so I suspect he won't.
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Feb 23, 2017 13:09
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People asking for 'the truth' as if there's some unalloyed set of facts just waiting to be uncovered are the same sort who want politicians to 'stop arguing'.
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Taear posted:I'd also say the people saying that labour isn't "patriotic" enough is really worrying. Someone I know who voted leave now calls themselves English exclusively because "Scottish people never say they're british" although I don't know where she's got that from. Clearly they've never met a Rangers fan.
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Feb 23, 2017 13:10
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Yeah wtf is cultural marxism anyway?
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Guavanaut posted:People are really not at home with things being social constructs or best current models, even though positivism has been out of favor for a while
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By-elections turnouts are usually pants and rarely go over 45% - when its a seat held by Labour since the 50's with one of the lowest turnouts at the last general election you're not going to animate many people to come out and keep labour in as it's a foregone conclusion for many. If the weathers poor I'd be surprised if the turnout goes over the mid-30 mark
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Hope nobody needs to use the Trains today - https://twitter.com/VirginTrains/status/834735246553841664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw London Euston is now shut, think Paddington has issues as well. Lines closed all over the network, and its still 3 hours or so before the worst hits London, etc.
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Feb 23, 2017 13:13
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Saith posted:Yeah wtf is cultural marxism anyway? Rationalwiki has your back
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Saith posted:Yeah wtf is cultural marxism anyway? A massive sign-post that says "The person who said this is a worthless oval office, please ignore" (not you, the people who use it unironically)
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Feb 23, 2017 13:14
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ukle posted:Hope nobody needs to use the Trains today - Trains in Scotland are fine.
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forkboy84 posted:I went to Newcastle once. Well, I changed trains in Newcastle anyway. Thanks for this link, was interesting. A decent potted history of the degree and it's alumni rather than a critique, but yeah.
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Feb 23, 2017 13:21
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I'm right where the storm currently is and it's really high, as in hitting the tops of trees but not really on the ground. I would imagine costal areas and bridges and whatnot are getting hammered but the big issues in London will be hoping skyscrapers are built up to code and cranes.
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Saith posted:Yeah wtf is cultural marxism anyway? Vice just did a thing about it. jBrereton posted:Real wages over the last decade.jpg might explain why.
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This is a good book review on a book about the state of economics teaching. turns out to get an economics degree you just do multiple choice exams and never do any critical thinking https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/feb/09/the-econocracy-review-joe-earle-cahal-moran-zach-ward-perkins
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Feb 23, 2017 13:37
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why is labour apparently running lurch as its candidate?
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LemonDrizzle posted:why is labour apparently running lurch as its candidate? They wanted the CLP to put forward a candidate rather than doing the usual thing of airdropping in a favoured child to an 'easy' safe seat. Problem is that Stoke has been neglected for so long that the best they could offer was this guy.
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What is noteworthy about the 'neglect' that Stoke has suffered? It seems to be the emerging narrative and I'd like to understand it better.
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Jose posted:This is a good book review on a book about the state of economics teaching. turns out to get an economics degree you just do multiple choice exams and never do any critical thinking Two things in The Guardian I've liked in one day. Impressive going.
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Pissflaps posted:What is noteworthy about the 'neglect' that Stoke has suffered? It seems to be the emerging narrative and I'd like to understand it better. like many other Labour safe seats, they got a favoured New Labour disciple with no ties to the town airdropped in. Hunt had tried to get selected in two other safe seats in different parts of the country (one was Liverpool). I can't speak for how well Hunt advocated for the people of Stoke and how often he held surgery but he was able to spend a lot of time trying to raise his own media profile and lecturing at St Mary's where I feel obligated to mention as it always is that he crossed a picket line to deliver a lecture on Marx.
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Guavanaut posted:I saw a depressing number of people asking for 'unbiased sources' during the run-up to the referendum. Even people who I know for a fact were told in History that there's no such thing. Maybe they thought that one had been invented since then. I understand that people want certainty and this in part is due to constantly having lovely jobs where you never know from one day to the next if you're going to be fired. But I work in a job like that and I still manage to find out what's going on. The things people say to you as you go house to house (I've only done Copeland and not Stoke) are pretty loving insane and depressing now too. As our favourite article says the british public seriously are wrong about nearly everything and it's very hard to persuade anyone otherwise.
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