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FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Wikkheiser posted:

he might be right about this, but he hasn't thought about it very deeply. and it might also be that because the First Amendment has such strong protections from govt interference, the social prohibitions are stronger as a means to compensate.

milo would often gloat about how much he understood america better than americans do, but he is living in an abstract version of america where people don't get punched in the goddamned mouth for yapping too much.

Let's not kid ourselves by pretending we've not heard people say this sort of stuff privately. I realize someone will then accuse me of "Guilt by association", but this is how a lot of society is (it's not immune to :911:, Red States or out right racists. It exists anywhere and everywhere). But the difference is...when away from "safe spaces"? You can get your rear end whooped. So you'll rarely hear someone go full Archie Bunker in the middle of an Applebees because again, an rear end whooping could be eminent.

Milo reminds me of Rush Limbaugh pre-Pat Sajak, and in case of what you want to know what I'm talking about? Give this a peek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNK4byQkn7w

After this? Limbaugh became much more insular, and softened quite a few stances. He was insanely homophobic (even cracking aids jokes...), and had some real over the top comments about abortion, etc. After being humilated on National Television? Yeah, that changed. Limbaugh, mind you still is quite conservative, says a lot of horrible poo poo from time to time, but he's not a "social pariah" in the same sort of terms any more.

I don't know where the gently caress this is going to lead Milo though. I don't know if someone overcomes this sort of thing (Defending Pedastry I mean).

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

FuzzySkinner posted:

Let's not kid ourselves by pretending we've not heard people say this sort of stuff privately.
Oh yah

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
I was thinking, Milo probably couldn't even do much touring in Britain (at least with his current act) because the universities would never even allow him in the first place. He could be fined, and so on.

To be sure, a lot of Brits get KTFO'd in pubs every night for saying the wrong thing to the wrong people at the wrong time. And Brits shoot each other too. But I was just chatting with my brother about this, and he made the comment how he was walking his girlfriend's dog in the rural Texas town near here where she lives, and he had to make a mental note about where he walked because of... rednecks with guns and strict definitions of property lines, basically. So the threat of RIP no-joke gun violence is pretty pervasive even if we don't consciously think about it.

A Milo fan shot an Antifa guy outside one of his events, right? I have a feeling Milo might be right about America being socially more restrictive about speech, but he doesn't understand why that is. The state restrictions are weaker but there's all these unwritten rules and social norms that break down when johnny foreigner decides to get disruptive.

What Milo also does is this fetishism and creation of a perfect abstract system, belief or theory about American speech. It's very very gay (I'm gay too and recognize it) and very Catholic. I remember Andrew Sullivan basically describing Pope Benedict XVI's penchant for super liturgical, perfectly abstract dogma as coming from a particular type of repressed gay syndrome. And it's all uber-accessorized with over-the-top clothing; overcompensating. You can't live with yourself as it is, so you create a perfect abstract version of the world and your role in it.

Ok I'm done.

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 09:35 on Feb 23, 2017

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Wikkheiser posted:

I was thinking, Milo probably couldn't even do much touring in Britain (at least with his current act) because the universities would never even allow him in the first place. He could be fined, and so on.

To be sure, a lot of Brits get KTFO'd in pubs every night for saying the wrong thing to the wrong people at the wrong time. And Brits shoot each other too. But I was just chatting with my brother about this, and he made the comment how he was walking his girlfriend's dog in the rural Texas town near here where she lives, and he had to make a mental note about where he walked because of... rednecks with guns and strict definitions of property lines, basically. So the threat of RIP no-joke gun violence is pretty pervasive even if we don't consciously think about it.

I mean, a Milo fan shot an Antifa guy outside one of his events, right? I have a feeling Milo might be right about America being socially more restrictive about speech, but he doesn't understand why that is. The state restrictions are weaker but there's all these unwritten rules and social norms that break down when johnny foreigner decides to get disruptive.

A lot of :911:'s generally like to keep to themselves, and only let their guard down when they feel they can talk about politics with someone without alienating them.

I think often times they feel a bit more "safe" when it's behind a radio, internet, tv screen or some guy espousing the views on stage. You'd likely find a guy who says the same sort of things Milo says on stage in a bar in rural Oklahoma or something, but he'd probably be very private in person, etc.

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

a helpful bear posted:

i knew bill maher was an rear end in a top hat but holy poo poo he's a real piece of poo poo

A Pale Horse
Jul 29, 2007

Not to make excuses for him but on this topic Maher talks like a lot of guys who didn't get laid until they were in their 20s (as he's admitted). They remember their own adolescent desire for sex, see that the perpetrator is a pretty woman and think if only it'd been me, not realizing that they're now filtering that through the mind of an adult and that if it had been them they might not have been so keen on it at the time. Its lack of empathy mixed with remembered wish fulfillment.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
sorry you suck at talking to the ladies bill. and while its sad both in an unfortunate way and a :sad: way he's become such a toxic rear end in a top hat that he undercuts every progressive thing he attempts by making it about "look at how smart I am"

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

Wikkheiser posted:

he might be right about this, but he hasn't thought about it very deeply. and it might also be that because the First Amendment has such strong protections from govt interference, the social prohibitions are stronger as a means to compensate.

milo would often gloat about how much he understood america better than americans do, but he is living in an abstract version of america where people don't get punched in the goddamned mouth for yapping too much.

Social restrictions aren't real though. You want to be an rear end in a top hat, be an rear end in a top hat. Just don't expect the rest of us to applaud you for it. Milo has never understood that free speech works because words have meaning, not because they're meaningless. You spend your life spouting bullshit, don't be surprised when people call you bullshit.

*edit*Basically British people misunderstand American culture because it looks similar to theirs on the surface so they think that's all there is to it. It's weird the way some Americans will hear a British accent and assume the person has something intelligent to say.

Relevant Tangent has issued a correction as of 13:31 on Feb 23, 2017

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

🤔

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/834783204884230144

Bruteman
Apr 15, 2003

Can I ask ya somethin', Padre? When I was kickin' your ass back there... you get a little wood?


The ol' Fox News "tag the misbehaving Republican rep with a D" strat.

separately - please lord, I haven't asked for much, but if you could deliver humilation to Cernovich next, that would be awesome, thanks.

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

I am not on your side

Bruteman posted:

separately - please lord, I haven't asked for much, but if you could deliver humilation to Cernovich next, that would be awesome, thanks.

Unfortunately Cernovich is only on record suggesting his followers rape adult women, and not children... and everyone seems pretty OK with that, so :shrug:

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

Relevant Tangent posted:

It's weird the way some Americans will hear a British accent and assume the person has something intelligent to say.

We misunderstand them just as much as they misunderstand us, I think is the takeaway here. Brits are seen as smarter because their country is older & has the "right" kind of culture (in popular American culture pretty much all of northern Europe is seen to varying degrees as being kind of dweeby & insufferable- like an atheist Ned Flanders to our Simpsons- the French exist to smell bad while arguing during sex, the Russians are terrifying and everyone else doesn't have any good movies made about them, so who gives a poo poo anyways?) and they really, really like to tell us we're stupid. There also isn't much of a identity for white people in America who don't buy into the rah rah murica popular mindset, so cleaving to a group of white people who have a fixed, strong identity is what a lot of us do. Sometimes that means Nazis, sometimes that means trying to fake a Transatlantic accent and\or giving some trembly-rear end pale people way too much credit, because we mistake the degree to which they loathe existing for insight.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Gravy Jones posted:

Unfortunately Cernovich is only on record suggesting his followers rape adult women, and not children... and everyone seems pretty OK with that, so :shrug:

I think it would interesting to push the question on when conservatives believe a woman goes from innocent child to rapeable whore, could lead to more of them losing their heads.

DeepDickPizza
Oct 11, 2012

THREE TIME! THREE TIME!

Bruteman posted:

separately - please lord, I haven't asked for much, but if you could deliver humilation to Cernovich next, that would be awesome, thanks.

:yeah:

This is Cernovich's pinned tweet right now, by the way. loving lol.

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/834505340699807744

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

DeepDickPizza posted:

:yeah:

This is Cernovich's pinned tweet right now, by the way. loving lol.

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/834505340699807744

for some reason this image just brings to mind bitcoiners and how they try to ape existing capitalist institutions like banks and stock markets (poorly); this is like some kind of aping of news sources

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

DeepDickPizza posted:

:yeah:

This is Cernovich's pinned tweet right now, by the way. loving lol.

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/834505340699807744

Oh my sweet and merciful lord, I have lived too long and now I fear I shall never die.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
https://twitter.com/Slade/status/834802177843527683

don longjohns
Mar 2, 2012


Oh god I think I might be having a stroke

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

wow discrimination much?

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

failing forward posted:

Oh god I think I might be having a stroke

me too...













:fap:

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

id like to think they had to drag him out like a tantruming child, all teh while him screaming NO NO DONT PUT ME OUT THERE WITH THOSE PEOPLE NOOOOOOOOOOO and then he was last seen running down the street with a crowd in hot pursuit, like in a hard day's night




in reality, probably he just got punched in the face

don longjohns
Mar 2, 2012


I want to say I was cumming but I thought it was too personal :sigh:

The level of schadenfreude here is unprecedented. Someone like Spencer spends years of their life bitching online about freeze peach and then gets tossed out of CPAP for what he espouses. Unnnnnnggghhhh I think I understand ASMR videos now.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

failing forward posted:

I want to say I was cumming but I thought it was too personal :sigh:

The level of schadenfreude here is unprecedented. Someone like Spencer spends years of their life bitching online about freeze peach and then gets tossed out of CPAP for what he espouses. Unnnnnnggghhhh I think I understand ASMR videos now.

i just call it karma porn. A box full of bubble wrap and a sultry voice just doesnt move my hateful :corsair: heart anymore.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Bill Maher was trying to take credit for the Milo takedown because his own pedaphile stuff was catching up to him.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/milo-bill-maher-defending-sex-with-minors-video/

It's all over the news now. Hell, I just heard about it on the radio. lol

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
:getin:

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

spacetoaster posted:

Bill Maher was trying to take credit for the Milo takedown because his own pedaphile stuff was catching up to him.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/milo-bill-maher-defending-sex-with-minors-video/

It's all over the news now. Hell, I just heard about it on the radio. lol

super happy this is getting mainstream attention. not that it matters much. he's already so entrenched in the faux intellectual machine that he's going to have a shoe until he dies.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

These next few weeks in the conservative sphere are going to be hella interesting.

Trumps Baby Hands
Mar 27, 2016

Silent white light filled the world. And the righteous and unrighteous alike were consumed in that holy fire.

spacetoaster posted:

Bill Maher was trying to take credit for the Milo takedown because his own pedaphile stuff was catching up to him.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/milo-bill-maher-defending-sex-with-minors-video/

It's all over the news now. Hell, I just heard about it on the radio. lol

Jesus Christ, karma is just having an incredible week. First Milo gets his comeuppance for being a hateful dick, and now Bill gets his for giving that hateful dick a platform in order to boost his own ratings.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
https://mobile.twitter.com/RhondaSasser/status/834905511531282432

This is a twitter bot that followed me :v:

Parts Kit
Jun 9, 2006

durr
i have a hole in my head
durr

A Pale Horse posted:

Not to make excuses for him but on this topic Maher talks like a lot of guys who didn't get laid until they were in their 20s (as he's admitted). They remember their own adolescent desire for sex, see that the perpetrator is a pretty woman and think if only it'd been me, not realizing that they're now filtering that through the mind of an adult and that if it had been them they might not have been so keen on it at the time. Its lack of empathy mixed with remembered wish fulfillment.
So he's an anime nerd?

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
https://mobile.twitter.com/pnehlen/status/834257003275046913

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
~~~Soothing, gentle ear to ear whispers of Mein Kampf + head scratches for racially pure tingles~~~

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

https://gab.ai/pnehlen posted:

Demanding our elected representatives actually represent American interests first is neither racist nor wrong. What is racist and wrong is to suggest otherwise.

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene

Trumps Baby Hands posted:

Jesus Christ, karma is just having an incredible week. First Milo gets his comeuppance for being a hateful dick, and now Bill gets his for giving that hateful dick a platform in order to boost his own ratings.

i think its a bit premature to think he's getting his

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief
:patriot:

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Al-Saqr posted:

Holy poo poo what a loving idiot scumbag he literally shook his hand and called him a young Christopher hitchens holy gently caress what a stupid prick.

a reptilian douchebag who literally cannot loving shut up about himself?

yeah, checks out

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

https://twitter.com/PennyRed/status/834512343576965120

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

spacetoaster posted:

Bill Maher was trying to take credit for the Milo takedown because his own pedaphile stuff was catching up to him.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/milo-bill-maher-defending-sex-with-minors-video/

It's all over the news now. Hell, I just heard about it on the radio. lol


They are also going after George Takei for things he said about his first sexual relationship with a camp councillor on the Howard Stern Show.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006


thanks for the advice noted failed Breitbart puppet that tried to primary Ryan and lost by 30 points

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FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Montasque posted:

They are also going after George Takei for things he said about his first sexual relationship with a camp councillor on the Howard Stern Show.

Am I allowed to think Takei is an annoying dickhead? Because yeah, his tweets have been horrible since Trump won the gop nom.

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