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Koopa Kid posted:Not gritty enough Even with the current braintrust? They seem less focused on dumb stuff.
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Feb 23, 2017 05:22
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shyduck posted:Can the Flyers just forfeit on Saturday or let someone else play Hey we're playing without 3 defensemen and 2 top 6 forwards, you guys may have a chance 
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Feb 23, 2017 05:23
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Even with the current braintrust? They seem less focused on dumb stuff. Lou and Babs are a lot more old school, Dubas spends most of his time with the Marlies and if the analytics guys got their due then the team never would have picked up guys like Martin, Smith, Polak, etc. There's a lot of good staff around and they're definitely doing better than they did under Nonis/Carlyle, but there's no convincing the old school guys that they don't need some grit or intangibles or whatever, which is how you get Peter Holland getting traded to make room for the worst PK center in the league.
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Feb 23, 2017 05:27
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peter holland is the worst player on the coyotes though
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Feb 23, 2017 05:36
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hifi posted:peter holland is the worst player on the coyotes though And still twice the player Ben Smith is!
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Feb 23, 2017 05:36
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I'll put it this way, Ben Smith was added to the team, in the words of the coach who played him last year, to win faceoffs and help on the penalty kill: https://twitter.com/mirtle/status/833129397796343808 (NHL average is 90) https://twitter.com/mirtle/status/794540764915232769 So yeah, if Babcock was giving the analytics team any heed he probably wouldn't expect faceoff wins and PK play from this guy.
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Feb 23, 2017 05:41
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Antoine Vermette did nothing wrong.
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Feb 23, 2017 06:17
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hifi posted:peter holland is the worst player on the coyotes though Is burmistrov still bad?
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Feb 23, 2017 06:44
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take me you ANIMAL posted:If there's anyone that can work out an AV of the Coaches Corner transcribed Elliot video where it shows trotz saying "call it on the same way" through "OK lets go" i'll buy you something on the forums or whatever, just needs to have the phone in it. If not I'll just do a pic of it. I want that pizza at the end in my mouth hole. Give me huge rear end slices of pizza, bitches 
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Feb 23, 2017 06:46
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A Typical Goon posted:Is burmistrov still bad? He looks pretty good. I guess jets fans were bitching that he couldn't score and held on to the puck but he's miles better than the last year of ribeiro and he's probably better creating offense than hanzal. Also it helps that we had zero expectations for him
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Feb 23, 2017 07:04
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Koopa Kid posted:And still twice the player Ben Smith is! Yeah Ben Smith is in contention to be the worst NHLer still playing. I wish I was joking. Roman Polak is in contention to be the worst NHL defender still playing. The current Leafs leadership if it acts the way it has the past year is in serious trouble of sabotaging any Leafs Cup bid over the next few years. The reliance on scrubs like Matt Martin/Ben Smith/Frederik Gauthier/Matt Hunwick/Roman Polak over proven better alternatives this year is scary. There were very positive signs of improvement when Dubas/Hunter/Shanny were seemingly running the show, now it seems like the Lou/Babcock show and they're hemorrhaging talent for no reason whatsoever in order to play vastly inferior players. They have all the pieces this year to put together a contender within a couple years but there's a ton of warning signs they're going to waste it signing and playing terrible players for Intangibles, Grittiness and Faceoffs.
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Feb 23, 2017 07:28
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Technetium posted:Roman Polak is in contention to be the worst NHL defender still playing. man it must really suck to have a bunch of good young dynamic players i can't begin to imagine your plight condolences sorry about your one bad defenseman, is he also getting over 4 million for the next 5 years or
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Feb 23, 2017 07:44
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If I had a gun with unlimited bullets and I was locked in a room with all of man and nature's evils, I would shoot all refs forever.
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Feb 23, 2017 07:55
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Teemu Pokemon posted:man it must really suck to have a bunch of good young dynamic players i can't begin to imagine your plight condolences Flipside: They're fans of a team that has been garbage for the overwhelming majority of the last 50 years, not just 25 of them. A team that has had no hope for over a decade until this season, and what hope they do have comes with major strings attached. This is "Oh I'm sorry you have a poo poo coach, why don't you cry into your 'Atlantic Division Leaders' T-Shirt" all over again. Just because your team is doing well, or has the potential for a bright future doesn't mean you should blatantly ignore the glaring problems with your team. Yes the Leafs have a good young core but they also give a D-pairing of Roman Polak and Matt Hunwick like 15-20 minutes a game and they chose to go after players like Matt Martin and Ben Smith instead of players who are going to be actual contributors to their next cup run.
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Feb 23, 2017 08:13
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Aphrodite posted:If I had a gun with unlimited bullets and I was locked in a room with all of man and nature's evils, I would shoot all refs forever. Go on, I want to hear more about why someone's actions in relation to a sport deserve physical violence
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Feb 23, 2017 08:55
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Tim Peel is a terrible hill to die on, mr. ref apologist.  (And his lovely linesman)
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Feb 23, 2017 11:21
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xzzy posted:I would like to see a sikh NHL player somehow incorporating a turban into a hockey helmet. 
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Feb 23, 2017 11:42
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Look Around You posted:Hey we're playing without 3 defensemen and 2 top 6 forwards, you guys may have a chance Hakstol: "Hold my beer"
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Feb 23, 2017 12:04
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I'm not calling the franchise lost or anything but the Leafs are definitely making more questionable moves as time goes on. It's to be expected kinda, it's way harder to build up a team of good players than it is to blow up a team of bad ones, but it's worrying long-term. Really Lou just needs to give up the ghost and retire, his track record in the modern era sucks and he seems to encourage Babs' bad tendencies.
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Feb 23, 2017 13:21
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When Michael Raffl and Matt Read are getting fewer minutes than Bellemare and Vandevelde, something is wrong with the game plan. And it's the coach that comes up with the game plan. Fire Hakstol.
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Feb 23, 2017 13:34
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Cartoon Man posted:Feel better about the Caps after that win. Flyers played hard for 3.5 periods, it felt like playoff hockey. Then they poo poo the bed and gave up. gently caress the Flyers, go Caps! I started feeling an ominous twinge in my neck when Niskanen went down, but I guess he's OK. Makes me wonder if there's any sense in grabbing someone slightly better than Chorney or Tom Gilbert for defensive depth in the playoffs. Those pairings start to look like utter poo poo awful fast. In positive news, I just got obscenely good tickets for the game against CBJ next month. Looking forward to making a close study of Ovi's gap tooth.
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Feb 23, 2017 13:52
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Kalenn Istarion posted:Go on, I want to hear more about why someone's actions in relation to a sport deserve physical violence Because a person can just build a magic infinite bullet gun and invite all of evil to a room. How would you even contact all those people? Most of them existed before e-mail. And like they'd all show up? Hitler's got poo poo to do I'm sure. This situation is obviously setup by an all powerful God, making me his earthly agent. So I'm not going to stand for your blasphemy. You disgust me.
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Feb 23, 2017 14:46
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take me you ANIMAL posted:If there's anyone that can work out an AV of the Coaches Corner transcribed Elliot video where it shows trotz saying "call it on the same way" through "OK lets go" i'll buy you something on the forums or whatever, just needs to have the phone in it. If not I'll just do a pic of it. This work?  I can clean it up when I'm not at work and centre it more on the same way bit if you have some patience.
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Feb 23, 2017 14:54
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Schlesische posted:Flipside: They're fans of a team that has been garbage for the overwhelming majority of the last 50 years, not just 25 of them. A team that has had no hope for over a decade until this season, and what hope they do have comes with major strings attached. I think in pretty sure paragraph A almost immediately nullifies paragraph B. "Enjoy the ride" seems to be dangerously close to turning pretty quickly into "how can we a win a cup with Matt Martin  " Maybe Ben Smith plays because this team actually isn't All That Good Yet and all of the best players are under 21, so they're just filling in the gaps with whatever bullshit is lying around because this season effectively doesn't really matter yet even though they have a shot at the playoffs? Do you mean to tell me that it only took 5 months for "I'm just happy that we've got a glimmer of hope" to turn into "gotta dig my shrunken heads from the closet and start dancing around the fire to exorcise the '67 demons" A Red Wings team with Chris Chelios, Brett Lebda, Andreas Lilja, Darren McCarty, and Dallas Drake getting regular minutes managed to win a Presidents Trophy and a Stanley Cup before Ken Holland steered this bitch into the iceberg and Nearer My God to Thee started blaring so it's really not impossible to become a champion with a great coach, a senile egomaniac in the front office, and a few lovely players on the roster. Why don't we worry about that when we get there, eh?
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Feb 23, 2017 15:41
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so i guess we'll find out the truth eventually but there's rumors that trevor daley's injury may have required season ending surgery and if that's true then i think jim rutherford should probably do whatever is necessary at the deadline to take advantage of the opportunity he has to ice a playoff team $7 million+ over the salary cap
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Feb 23, 2017 16:08
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https://twitter.com/renlavoietva/status/834782988403605504
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Pornographic Memory posted:so i guess we'll find out the truth eventually but there's rumors that trevor daley's injury may have required season ending surgery and if that's true then i think jim rutherford should probably do whatever is necessary at the deadline to take advantage of the opportunity he has to ice a playoff team $7 million+ over the salary cap Pens just posted on twitter. Knee surgery... out 6 weeks.
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Feb 23, 2017 16:24
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I'm sure Ron Hainsey will fit in swimmingly with the Penguins up-tempo and puck-moving D.
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Feb 23, 2017 16:26
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The Smith thing matters because it's a failure in player evaluation. He's not a leftover from the previous regime but a guy specifically targeted by staff to address a need, except he's miserable at it and below readily available replacements, including guys that were already on the roster when he was acquired. It's one thing to draft high picks and have them hit, but if you can't fill out your roster with properly evaluated guys you just become the Oilers of the last 10 years. The sky's not falling but the Leafs under Lou have actively acquired Andersen (another failure in evaluation), Polak, Martin, and Smith, guys who are/were not upgrades over their competition. It's not a great trend, and I don't think the 'lost season' defence works when the org is intentionally getting these guys.
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Feb 23, 2017 16:27
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Mind_Taker posted:I'm sure Ron Hainsey will fit in swimmingly with the Penguins up-tempo and puck-moving D. His possession stats don't seem abominable. Also we're playing Steve Olesky and Chad Ruhwedel right now. A 2nd though? Ugh.
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Feb 23, 2017 16:30
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Ron Hainsey is a puck mover though, an old slow puck mover, but a puck mover nevertheless.
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Mind_Taker posted:I'm sure Ron Hainsey will fit in swimmingly with the Penguins up-tempo and puck-moving D. as long as he's competent at what he does he'll probably be ok. i mean this is a team that played ben lovejoy on their second pairing for significant stretches last season and playoffs, the penguins live and die by their forwards and the d as a group just needs to be not terrible, for the most part note: i know nothing about ron hainsey so i don't know, maybe this will actually be bad edit: https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/834785548854259713 
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I mean this is two years ago, but he's not like a pylon or anything: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41V1tIb3tvI -- his skating was all anyone talked about when he was younger.
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Feb 23, 2017 16:45
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Danny Kristo strikes again!
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bub spank posted:http://news.nationalpost.com/sports/nhl/james-wisniewskis-russia-switzerland-ahl-saga-offers-lesson-in-the-harsh-realities-of-the-nhl I was on a flight from Columbus to Atlanta with Wiz right around the time he picked up the KHL deal. Didn't get to talk to him in the terminal, but he was recognizable. If the Jackets had picked him up on a league-minimum deal, I'd have been OK with it. He wouldn't have been any worse than Dalton Prout. T-Bone posted:Ron Hainsey is a puck mover though, an old slow puck mover, but a puck mover nevertheless. I keep forgetting he's still in the league. I'll watch CBJ/Canes games and go "poo poo, how has he lasted this long?". He last played for the CBJ back in the dark ages in 2008. He took a big ticket deal to go to Atlanta. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Feb 23, 2017 |
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Feb 23, 2017 17:07
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Wow, Hainsey has really hung in there.
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