Solemn Sloth posted:

Any recession would clearly be the fault of the labor waste we inherited (half a loving decade ago)

Solemn Sloth posted:

To whoever said not even bill shorten could gently caress this up(an opinion so stupid I guess it must be Anidav)

The young guy shorten invited up on stage is:
An SDA delegate
An ALP campaign volunteer
Seen posing with Bill Shorten last election
Under an EBA rather than the award conditions

quote:

According to his Facebook page, Mr Hunter in November received the "Young Achiever Award" from the Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees' Association, known as the shoppies.

ModernMajorGeneral posted:

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-po...223-gujvvr.html


Here is the article about this if anyone hasn't seen it.



Can anyone in the thread explain how the SDA became so useless and bad?

ModernMajorGeneral posted:

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-po...223-gujvvr.html


Here is the article about this if anyone hasn't seen it.



Can anyone in the thread explain how the SDA became so useless and bad?

ModernMajorGeneral posted:

Can anyone in the thread explain how the SDA became so useless and bad?

G-Spot Run posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/feb/23/tony-abbott-takes-aim-at-turnbull-and-lays-out-conservative-manifesto

quote:

Tony Abbott has used a book launch to unveil a sweeping conservative manifesto for the next federal election, declaring the Coalition needs to cut immigration, slash the renewable energy target, abolish the Human Rights Commission, and gut the capacity of the Senate to be a roadblock to the government’s agenda.

You Am I posted:

Pack of right wing Catholics who would've been in the DLP if the DLP liked the unions.

The SDA was ruled by a ruthless the Dutchman Joe de Bruyn who opposed anything progressive, like same sex marriage. As Whitlam once joked about De Bruyn "Joe de Bruyn is a Dutchman who hates dykes."

Considering the age and views of the people who would join (or forced) to join that union, its leadership was well out of step. The SDA was the only union not to be investigated by Abbott's witch hunt Union Royal Commission.

Graic Gabtar posted:

Is it just me or does anyone else feel an epic post of rage inbound from Cartoon?

G-Spot Run posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/feb/23/tony-abbott-takes-aim-at-turnbull-and-lays-out-conservative-manifesto

Lid posted:

Tony Abbott has used a book launch to unveil a sweeping conservative manifesto for the next federal election, declaring the Coalition needs to cut immigration, slash the renewable energy target, abolish the Human Rights Commission, and gut the capacity of the Senate to be a roadblock to the government’s agenda.

Its a short bow but...

Lid posted:

As for tge book

MAKING AUSTRALIA RIGHT
Where to from here?

Edited by James Allan

with contributions from:
Judith Sloan, Brendan O’Neill, Gary Johns, Jim Molan, Roger Franklin, Rebecca Weisser, Graeme Haycroft, James Allan, Kerryn Pholi, Jeremy Sammut, Lorraine Finlay, Peter Kurti, Steven Kates, Alan Moran

Judith Sloan considers the economy; Brendan O’Neill tackles political correctness; Gary Johns writes on inequality; Jim Molan surveys defence; Roger Franklin goes more big picture and explains the causes for his anger at the Liberal Party; Rebecca Weisser examines the media in this country; Graeme Haycroft does the same with industrial relations; James Allan at the state of play in our universities; Kerryn Pholi writes on Aboriginal Australia; Jeremy Sammut discusses health; Lorraine Finlay takes on law-making; Peter Kurti delves into religion and the new sectarianism; Steve Kates scrutinizes interest rate policy; and Alan Moran finishes the collection off by looking at energy policy. So fourteen chapters in all, and each one approached in a different way.

Solemn Sloth posted:

My fiancé got a fine for not voting on whether to allow a liquor license for a restaurant in a designated dry zone because her council is the most nimby rear end bunch of loving wasps ever

Lid posted:

Tony Abbott has used a book launch to unveil a sweeping conservative manifesto for the next federal election, declaring the Coalition needs to cut immigration, slash the renewable energy target, abolish the Human Rights Commission, and gut the capacity of the Senate to be a roadblock to the government’s agenda.

Its a short bow but...

quote:

Abbott not giving up on leadership return

Tony Abbott told Liberal defector Cory Bernardi last year that he hoped to return to leadership, but would not force a leadership spill for Malcolm Turnbull's job.

It's understood that Senator Bernardi then moved to directly warn the prime minister of the leadership threat on February 7, during a private conversation earlier this month when he quit the Liberal Party.

Sky News understands that Mr Abbott told Senator Bernardi he would not challenge for leadership as the public would never accept another round of 'political cannibalism'.

But he left the door open to returning to the top job if Mr Turnbull quit before the next election.

The conversation between Mr Abbott and the Senator Bernardi about the leadership took place late last year, before the conservative MP quit the Liberal Party.

It's understood that Senator Bernardi warned the Prime Minister when he quit that his enemies within the Liberal Party were 'coming after him'' for the leadership and that he 'didn't want any part of it:'.

Senator Bernardi has told Sky News that he will not comment on private conversations.

The revelations have prompted the prime minister to declare he will 'not be provoked' by Mr Abbott.

''Tony Abbott knows exactly what he's doing and so do his colleagues,'' Mr Turnbull told Melbourne radio station 3AW.

'I'm not going to be provoked,'

Finance Minister Mathias Cormann, who was Mr Abbott's most loyal supporters warned his leadership hopes were over.

'I can't see any scenario in which there is a return of Tony Abbott to the leadership of the Liberal Party','' Senator Cormann told Sky News.

Conservatives insist Mr Turnbull could launch a 'crash or crash through' fight for gay marriage because he doesn't want to be seen to be a 'do nothing' PM, and this could trigger a leadership change

Mr Abbott's supporters are describing the Turnbull government as 'the Malcolm vanity project', a reference the former PM alluded to in a speech last night.

A Liberal minister has told Sky News Mr Abbott has little support in the party room for any challenge.

'Well, the mad uncle is out of the attic now. But Abbott's got no support,' the minister said.

Finance Minister Mathias Cormann, who was a strong supporter of Mr Abbott throughout his prime ministership, told Sky News he was saddened by his decision to provide 'more and more destructive' commentary.

'He's not helping our cause, he's not helping our country, he's not helping himself, much of what he says is either wrong or inconsistent with what he did,' he said.

Senator Cormann said he was flabbergasted by the former prime minister's comments on Sky News, in which he warned the Coalition was 'drifting to defeat' if it fails to lift its performance.

'There is nothing good that comes from an interview like that, it was deliberately destructive, it was completely unhelpful...it was quite self-indulgent,' he said.

tithin posted:

Does the Cartoon poo poo in the woods?

quote:

<snip>"I rely on Sunday penalty rates. I am rostered on every single Sunday. "I will now lose $109 a week, that is insane. I rely on the penalty rates to make ends meet and to pay for my fuel, my rent and to pay for my food." Supermarket giant Coles contacted the ABC on Thursday afternoon to say Mr Hunter was one of their employees. "Store team members at Coles are employed under an enterprise agreement and therefore are unaffected by today's decision."<snip>

quote:

<snip>The RBA has never been this explicit: people have taken on mountains of debt to ride the property boom and it's now a risk to the economy. Many others have made the observation, but for the RBA to say it, is a big deal. The RBA knows the economy is still fragile. It needs more stimulation; to drive growth, get wages up and push unemployment down. But the RBA doesn't want to cut interest rates further because it will just throw more fuel on property prices which are already growing at eye-watering levels in the pacific rim cities — at a time when wages growth is at record lows.<snip>

quote:

<snip>"Every government proposal of the last 10 years to reform the tax system has failed." The constant political brawl meant considered, long-term recommendations on fiscal, economic growth and environmental challenges were ignored. "The reform narrative of an earlier period has been buried by the language of fear and anger. It doesn't seek to explain; rather, it seeks to confuse and frighten."<snip>

TheIllestVillain posted:

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2017/02/24/abbott-not-giving-up-on-leadership-return.html

BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:

As for the story that Trent isn't affected by the penalty rates change, wow you guys are dense. He is on a rolled up base rate in his EBA to compensate for penalty rates. If penalty rates are lowered, when the pay rates are renegotiated, that rolled up rate will go down because there'll be less to compensate for and pass the better off overall test. He is affected.

BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:

As for the story that Trent isn't affected by the penalty rates change, wow you guys are dense. He is on a rolled up base rate in his EBA to compensate for penalty rates. If penalty rates are lowered, when the pay rates are renegotiated, that rolled up rate will go down because there'll be less to compensate for and pass the better off overall test. He is affected.

TheIllestVillain posted:

BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:

In regards to the question about why the SDA is so bad, it's not just their conservatism but the fact they do a really bad job of representing their workers. They accept EBAs with poor conditions in honour to maintain nice relations with employers. This article is great: http://www.smh.com.au/business/work...518-goycw5.html

As for the story that Trent isn't affected by the penalty rates change, wow you guys are dense. He is on a rolled up base rate in his EBA to compensate for penalty rates. If penalty rates are lowered, when the pay rates are renegotiated, that rolled up rate will go down because there'll be less to compensate for and pass the better off overall test. He is affected.

Solemn Sloth posted:

Yes and I am sure that this will come across and not be drowned out by the screeches of HES A LIAR

It definitely wasn't a massive fuckup by the ALP in picking someone in his position.

Anidav posted:

https://www.crikey.com.au/2017/02/24/abbott-turnbull-its-on-but-theres-a-third-player/

Anyone?