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Ace of Baes posted:I don't know why you guys are bummed out on it, the Dem party has a ton of really bad politicians and it makes them continually lose, the bad Dems have no vision of a better future, only grasping onto a failing economy, a terrible healthcare system, a national drug, prison, homelessness, and housing crisis with incremental ineffectual change and compromising with people who literally want to destroy the government and replace it with Evil Corp. Sir your free Jamocha (tm) shake keychain is only valid for one use a day
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docbeard posted:If I still lived there I'd seriously consider running for something, and I am literally the last person who should be in any kind of elected office. Here's who I'm volunteering for, a personal friend of mine that knows her poo poo and wants to dump a bathroom bill rear end in a top hat that can't anything out of his GOP-controlled committee: https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/danica-for-delegate
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Lastgirl posted:They seem to be actually debating the issues What issues are there to debate? It's pretty clear that the old way of doing things failed. It's time we try new things. No debate needed.
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Trash-eating mollusks: too good for our poors
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holy poo poo that guy is so loving close to the point
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Grey Fox posted:That's the magic of financial support. Cool. Next time I have some money to spare, I'll send her some. I used to live in Harrisonburg and I can't tell if anyone's even running against the Republican incumbent there. Guessing not.
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docbeard posted:Cool. Next time I have some money to spare, I'll send her some. I'm still mentally recovering from all the money I  ed to Clinton. Giving money to Star Citizen or Doobie would have felt better.
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:for close to eleven months i have been going from phone call to phone call, emails, facebook messages, saying i want to help but i also want to make sure i know what i'm doing -- asking, begging, pleading to be let known of any information sessions or conference calls or anything that would help me get a handle on procedural details within the party. the state parties in deep red states are not in good shape. they've been losing for a long time, and they don't get any money or resources or expertise because the national party has written them off as guaranteed losers and talented/educated democrats tend to brain-drain out toward the coasts. the top-level party officials are usually current or former elected officials who've actually run for office, so they care at least a little, but there's no guarantees about county-level folks. that's why I think going to the top might help at least a little. they're people who are state senators and stuff, so theyre less likely to blow you off than a lovely local government nobody fortunately, basically every dnc candidate has promised a fifty-state strategy, which is supposed to build up these parties enough so that they at least challenge all the seats and make the Republicans respond to them Ace of Baes posted:The fact that democratic parties that have been entrenched for years are getting hijacked so easily by bernie bros with no political experience prior to the 2016 primary shows both how incompetent centrists are, and also that they're a minority that has previously benefited by peoples apathy/lack of faith in the system. imo it shows how lovely and worthless progressives have been up to now these state and local parties have always been easy to hijack. unlike national politics, it doesn't really take that many motivated people to make a difference, because hardly anyone gives enough of a poo poo to get involved in races at that level (except in solid blue states run by impenetrable political machines). these progressive takeovers could have happened a decade ago if anyone had cared I think that's what really pisses me off about the Bernie movement: there's been all this populist anger swirling around for years, but it's steadfastly rejected all opportunities to organize or get involved, and accomplished precisely nothing until a charismatic politician started telling them what to do to. I've got no problem with Bernie himself - I think he's an honest guy who's honestly doing his best to try to bring about leftist policies that help people, and since he's failed to accomplish anything in the legislature he's pushing out of his comfort zone in hopes of making some progress before his political career ends. the thing is, I have basically zero faith in the movement that's built up around him. it's too centered on individuals rather than ideology. I deeply hope that the "Bernie movement" will last more than a few years, but the entire 21st century so far has conditioned me to have zero faith in progressives' ability to remain motivated and useful without a charismatic figurehead to rally around. the progressive enthusiasm right now is heartening, but every time I close my eyes I see those stupid loving Occupy drum circles and know that if it weren't for Bernie Sanders, we'd be seeing reenactments of that rather than socialist takeovers of state parties
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:Luckily we are juuuuuuust about there. In my scenario, Democrats would need to lose ground in 2018, to the point where we're not talking about who gets control, but whether Republicans will get a supermajority in both the House and the Senate. Then, Democrats would need to tank in 2020 where Trump wins reelection easily and either gets or maintains that supermajority. That'd set up the final, despair election in the midterms of 2022, where Democrats would need to not break that supermajority. Then, and only then, would we see each half of the Democrats put up their own candidate in 2024, effectively sealing the split. One side would maintain control of the existing Democratic Party apparatus, while the other set up an essentially parallel organization. Right now, I think that we see a continued downward slide according to my scenario into 2018. That election was always gonna be favorable for Republicans, with a lot more Democrats in red states than Republicans in blue states up for reelection in the Senate. A victory for Democrats there would be to keep Republicans under 55 seats total in the Senate, while picking up a few in the House or at least holding even. The kind of loss I'm talking about in my scenario is that Democrats continue to slide further, and that continues not just in 2018 but into 2020 and beyond. Democrats aren't in a good place right now, but we're nowhere near the conditions necessary for the party to break itself apart.
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docbeard posted:Cool. Next time I have some money to spare, I'll send her some. Grey Fox has issued a correction as of 16:48 on Feb 23, 2017 |
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SirPhoebos posted:I'm still mentally recovering from all the money I this may be the first convincing argument ever written concerning Star Citizen 
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I know, right? I can't believe it took 13 years to get a red title, but I knew folks would come around eventually.
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comparing dems to star citizen is unfair to star citizen
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The Star Citizen dev team has gotten much more accomplished
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Rastor posted:The Star Citizen dev team has gotten much more accomplished just paid $26 for a virtual spaceship MATCH ME
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Grey Fox posted:I know, right? I can't believe it took 13 years to get a red title, but I knew folks would come around eventually. Who would keep buying those for people? The ones in that specific format are all over the place. Who spends hundreds of dollars on passive-aggressive bullshit like that?
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CrumFUNist! posted:Who would keep buying those for people? The ones in that specific format are all over the place. Who spends hundreds of dollars on passive-aggressive bullshit like that? It's only a matter of time until an obsessive goon figures out each thread one of these titles was bought in, cross references posters in each, and finds the man behind the curtains I hope not though, because him, Dare, and Gurf are probably funding this dead gay forum by themselves
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Grey Fox posted:PLEASE HELP VIRGINIA, DAMMIT Keeping the VA governorship, beating Christie's lackey Guadagno for the NJ governorship, and making the VA House of Delegates less lopsided would go a long way towards encouraging Democrats in 2018.
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:Luckily we are juuuuuuust about there. The number of neo-libs who will vote GoP is vanishly small compared to the number of people who will vote for economic progressive policies that will directly help them, imo.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:What issues are there to debate? It's pretty clear that the old way of doing things failed. It's time we try new things. No debate needed. you're swinging a little high for the authoritarian fence with the my way or the highway shtick i was seeing it as a way for each candidate to make their cases, more so especially the others that aren't Perez or Ellison. If you could take a moment to not meltdown for a moment about the old guard because I don't even have them in my rearview, I thought it was nice that I could hear candidates talk sense with some degree of civility for once. Jeez, guy really. Way I see it, if it isn't DWS or Perez, it cant get any worse.
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:The number of neo-libs who will vote GoP is vanishly small compared to the number of people who will vote for economic progressive policies that will directly help them, imo. Consider that a democrat switching to the republicans is twice as bad as a democrat staying home or voting third party.
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JeffersonClay posted:Consider that a democrat switching to the republicans is twice as bad as a democrat staying home or voting third party. Yea could you imagine? The Republicans might get a majority in all the states and the federal government if we talk about hurting the neo-libs pocket-books too much.
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Bootycheck.
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JeffersonClay posted:Consider that a democrat switching to the republicans is twice as bad as a democrat staying home or voting third party. I actually consider it healthy, they're finally accepting who they truly are inside.
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logikv9 posted:Bootycheck. he still walks among us, a living god
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JeffersonClay posted:Consider that a democrat switching to the republicans is twice as bad as a democrat staying home or voting third party. Good thing that people switching their political party basically never happens, which is the reason elections are decided by turnout
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Grey Fox posted:Greatly appreciated. There probably might be, but I don't know for sure because the filing deadline hasn't happened yet. We have a record number of candidates running, I believe, in the state as a whole, so I wouldn't write them off. 26th district; Tony Wilt is the guy right now? I think so. I haven't lived there for almost 9 years, and most of the people I knew locally have also moved on so I don't know much about him, but I sure didn't see signs of a campaign when I did a cursory search. I'd love to be wrong since Harrisonburg, bring a college town, could actually be competitive for Democrats.
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If you push too hard for progress, the democrat politician you cannot trust will vacate the primary and become the republican politician you cannot trust, which would be a bad thing maybe
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Civilized Fishbot posted:Good thing that people switching their political party basically never happens, which is the reason elections are decided by turnout Oh OK I was worried that trump was able to get some rust belt union members to cross over, nothing to worry about obviously.
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Lastgirl posted:you're swinging a little high for the authoritarian fence with the my way or the highway shtick Right, this is the moment to carefully deliberate about policy minutiae and civically discuss ideas. /s Also lol at the idea that pointing out the anger and energy in the electorate should be harnessed is "authoritarian" All this hemming and hawing is bullshit, especially after Hillary and the rest of the folks that were "with her" failed so spectacularly white sauce has issued a correction as of 19:17 on Feb 23, 2017 |
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JeffersonClay posted:Oh OK I was worried that trump was able to get some rust belt union members to cross over, nothing to worry about obviously.
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i hope hillary runs as a republican in 2020. that way she can be friends with bankers to her hearts content and we have some non-psychotic republicans as opposition
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Condiv posted:i hope hillary runs as a republican in 2020. that way she can be friends with bankers to her hearts content and we have some non-psychotic republicans as opposition They'd be true conservatives then 
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if Buttigieg loses this time it does not matter, for he shall achieve an even greater victory when he leads his army of followers and fanatics into Washington DC at the conclusion of the second american civil war in 2028
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Grey Fox posted:The Dems can absolutely gently caress up holding New England. Do not underestimate the Dem's ability to gently caress up hard. Seconding this and holding up a big ol' picture of Martha Coakley
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CrumFUNist! posted:Who would keep buying those for people? The ones in that specific format are all over the place. Who spends hundreds of dollars on passive-aggressive bullshit like that? A couple weeks ago I dared make a thread in QCS asking if we could ban a guy who was bragging about being a prominent neo Nazi and someone made an avatar for me calling me a Nazi. They replaced it three times in two days before giving up. 45 bucks for Lowtax I guess
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:boot-edge-edge To escape the boot we must edge the boot, buttgeige for a bootless butt future
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