VileLL posted:Where did that whole thing where Jonah Jameson's a really good journalist/ news magnate up until Spider-Man gets involved come from? Like the whole part from Born Again where he's furious that Urich's backing off from reporting the truth, or his depiction throughout Alias, that kind of thing It's not quite like that. It's more that Jameson's a very obvious Charles Foster Kane pastiche. He used to be a man of integrity, but he's lost some of it along the way, and now lets his biases and business/political ambitions cloud his judgement, with his crusade against Spider-man being the most obvious example. Basically, he's a slimy, two-faced, suck-up, blustering fool on the surface, but if you back him up against the wall, the reporter with integrity rises to the surface again. It's why he has Robbie Robertson on the payroll. Dude always disagrees with Jonah, but Jonah usually concedes that he's right (except when it comes to Spider-man). Joe keeps him honest. And yeah, he's more or less always been that way.  
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I think he starts to really change or develop after Ditko leaves, because I think there was an element of Ditko's philosophy in his characterisation.
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I don't know exactly when, but I'd wager in the 80s if you are looking for some kind of concrete "i have principles!" or "check out my origin as reporter!" examples. That's when you have his Scorpion funding past come back to bite him in the rear end so that he steps down as EIC and that's when Robertson goes through his Tombstone saga (though I don't recall if Jameson ever busts his chops over it or not).
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Feb 20, 2017 20:54
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That's all really cool + helpful, thanks, had definitely just assumed it was more of a "recent" thing than that.
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Feb 20, 2017 21:21
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I did a cursory Google and Amazon search and didn't turn up anything, does anyone know where I could get a poster of the page from Birthright where Superman is holding up the kid and the giant S?
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Wheat Loaf posted:I think he starts to really change or develop after Ditko leaves, because I think there was an element of Ditko's philosophy in his characterisation. Agreed. Ditko's influence really makes Jonah out to almost be a villain and the only character that Peter actively and continues to be mean too (usually as Spidey), and plays it off as okay to be mean because Jonah is profiting off of other people's (IE Peter and other Bugle employees) work. Jonah doesn't beome a fuller character until after Ditko leaves. In the original run, the only time Jonah does any good is when it serves him.
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To be fair, Spider-Man was kind of a shithead to everyone back then. It's kind of confusing an objectivist would be in the superhero gig at all, but Ditko always has been an incredibly moral and principle person, unlike Every Other Objectivist.
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The best thing that happened to Jonah was the introduction of Robbie. That Robbie was allowed to be who he was at the Bugle instantly humanizes Jonah and make him more sane.
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Lobok posted:The best thing that happened to Jonah was the introduction of Robbie. That Robbie was allowed to be who he was at the Bugle instantly humanizes Jonah and make him more sane. 
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Trojan Kaiju posted:I did a cursory Google and Amazon search and didn't turn up anything, does anyone know where I could get a poster of the page from Birthright where Superman is holding up the kid and the giant S? Take the book to a print shop, have them do a hi res scan of the page and blow it up to the size you want. As long as it's a one off they should be fine doing this. Offer to pay cash and throw $5 at the counter kid if they say it's against policy.
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Rhyno posted:Take the book to a print shop, have them do a hi res scan of the page and blow it up to the size you want. As long as it's a one off they should be fine doing this. Offer to pay cash and throw $5 at the counter kid if they say it's against policy. I had a feeling that's about what I'd be doing. Thanks for the advice!
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I could give you a clean HD scan from my Comixology copy, if you could give me the issue number.
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Teenage Fansub posted:I could give you a clean HD scan from my Comixology copy, if you could give me the issue number. It would be either issues 11 or 12, the trade doesn't have any clear dividers. In the trade it's page 255.
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Here ya go. https://i.imgur.com/0y86fAj.jpg e: Anyone know of a host that doesn't automatically convert PNGs to JPGs? Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Feb 23, 2017 |
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Feb 23, 2017 00:06
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That child ain't got legs.
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He was like that when Superman got there.
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Teenage Fansub posted:Here ya go. All the image hosts that retain quality tend to shut down because people don't care enough about that. Google Drive/Dropbox/etc. would be the best way, I guess? It should retain everything that way.
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I didn't even know imgur started doing that, I guess I never upload files big enough for it to happen.
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It doesn't under a certain file size.
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Here is a question to test your nerd knowledge: what are the favourite food of random superheroes? What does Superman, Batman, Spiderman etc like to eat?
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Madkal posted:Here is a question to test your nerd knowledge: what are the favourite food of random superheroes? What does Superman, Batman, Spiderman etc like to eat? I know Bendis writing Spider-Man, in both Ultimate and in his Avengers stuff, has often had Spidey reference various NYC joints.
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Superman - A milkshake that's so thick Martian Manhunter - Chocos Deadpool - Chimichangas but more as a word than a food I think? Batman - Lobster Thermidor Spider-Man - Wheatcakes Sharon Carter - Cheeseburgers Iron Man - Shawarma you need to eat it with a spoon.
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Madkal posted:Here is a question to test your nerd knowledge: what are the favourite food of random superheroes? What does Superman, Batman, Spiderman etc like to eat?
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Ultimate Colossus loving loves sandwiches Wolverine's is beer
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Aphrodite posted:
I will accept this and I hope it gets referenced in every Batman comic now.
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Aphrodite posted:Iron Man - Shawarma Do they make that with booze in it?
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prefect posted:Do they make that with booze in it? *grabs you by the shoulders and shakes you madly* my man have u watched Sandra Lee
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Aphrodite posted:Spider-Man - Wheatcakes Favourite breakfast. I don't know if he has a fave food for lunch/dinner, though like any New Yorker he's been shown to enjoy pizza and hot dogs.
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Madkal posted:Here is a question to test your nerd knowledge: what are the favourite food of random superheroes? What does Superman, Batman, Spiderman etc like to eat? Wolverine, Breakfast - Beer Wolverine, Lunch - Beer Wolverine, Dinner - Beer
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Superman - Beef Boogeryawn with ketchup.
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Madkal posted:I will accept this and I hope it gets referenced in every Batman comic now. It has to be specifically microwaved lobster Thermidor.
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Spidey and Loki love hot dogs.
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According to the best Secret Invasion tie-in, Hank Pym really likes coffee with some chocolate in it, at a place that exploded.
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Aphrodite posted:Superman - A milkshake that's so thick Wow that was one hell of a deep cut superman joke. I appreciated that, even if nobody else got it.
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Spider-Man's is obviously Hostess Fruit Pies.
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Skwirl posted:Spider-Man's is obviously Hostess Fruit Pies. That's everyone but Joker.
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I know Lex Luthor likes 40 cakes.
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Green Arrow used to love chili, and was infamous for making it really spicy.
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purple death ray posted:Wow that was one hell of a deep cut superman joke. I appreciated that, even if nobody else got it. I giggled in most unmanful fashion.
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Rhyno posted:Superman - Beef Boogeryawn with ketchup. Remember when Morrison tried to make him a vegetarian.
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