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Clawtopsy posted:going to be melting down folks to feed to effie Unfortunately I'm pretty sure that it's going to be better to melt down Effies to make protein shakes for other people. Wary fighter would make, for example, Julia virtually impossible to deal with evenly.
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Tired Moritz posted:I'm starting to think F!Robin might not be worth it. Should I rank up my Felicia to a 4*? No. F!Robin is a really bad unit, and if you just want her for collection purposes the 2* version should be fine. And even if she somehow turns out to be good later (blue horse-mage meta?), spending 200 feathers to upgrade Robin from 2 to 3 is still cheaper than spending 2000 feathers to upgrade Felicia. Clarste fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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Frobin is very likely a bonus unit in the next arena round though so it might be a good idea to level her up a bit.
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Tired Moritz posted:Should I rank up my Felicia to a 4*? Yes, Glacies at 4* is brutal.
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Reiterpallasch posted:I actually think skill inheritance will break this and am salty about it beforehand, but in its current state f2p players can easily place in the top 5k worldwide, which is actually kind of insane. On the one hand, we don't know much yet, and they've avoided the previous few times the game almost got wrecked, so I'm not entirely without hope... On the other, yeah. I can see a lot of disaster coming down the pipe from this.
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akulanization posted:Unfortunately I'm pretty sure that it's going to be better to melt down Effies to make protein shakes for other people. Wary fighter would make, for example, Julia virtually impossible to deal with evenly. unfortunately, those people are dummies who don't like effie I got a Sully and I have a team with Effie and Sully now, which I will name team HELL YEAH disappointed one of the robins didnt have a levin sword
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chiasaur11 posted:On the one hand, we don't know much yet, and they've avoided the previous few times the game almost got wrecked, so I'm not entirely without hope... A lot of the best skills are on trash units. Fury is great and Hinata's useless rear end has it. Quick Riposte is on Subaki. If they don't make the process too onerous or random it wouldn't have to overly advantage whales; but I'm virtually sure it would break the game.
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I wonder what all skills will be transferable; if it will only be specific ones or any skill carried by a character. Just being able to stick an action or support skill on a character that doesn't normally have one is insane; plus, the characters that lack B skills can get something too. Weapons are technically skills also  I have a Lon'qu and I'm super excited to melt him to put Vantage on Lyn. Between Defiant ATK and Sol Katti giving her Brash Assault that poo poo is going to be bonkers.
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Heaven Spacey posted:I wonder what all skills will be transferable; if it will only be specific ones or any skill carried by a character. Just being able to stick an action or support skill on a character that doesn't normally have one is insane; plus, the characters that lack B skills can get something too. Weapons are technically skills also Unless they heavily restrict transferring, poo poo is going to be really broken. Like if supports skills were freely transferable all the whales would just put dance on every single team member.
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Andrast posted:Unless they heavily restrict transferring, poo poo is going to be really broken. You can't dance someone with dance or sing. 2 dancers and 2 units with draw back seems optimal.
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Feb 24, 2017 11:48
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Andrast posted:Unless they heavily restrict transferring, poo poo is going to be really broken. You can't Dance other Dance units
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Feb 24, 2017 11:50
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gently caress, I forgot about that
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Well, DeNA's pretty restrained with whalebait, usually; I wouldn't be surprised if each character only has one skill in particular they can transfer, and furthermore I wouldn't be all too shocked if only lower ranks of skills could transfer (So I'd only be able to stick Vantage 2 on Lyn instead of Vantage 3 after melting Lon'qu, for example). In FF Record Keeper, another DeNA game, a mechanic called record diving was implemented a while back. It opened up new skills for characters; when it was announced people were thinking about all kinds of wacky builds they could do but the reality was much tamer than that and few characters got anything that drastically changed the way you used them. After getting over my initial surprise at the announcement I genuinely don't see this going any differently.
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Andrast posted:Unless they heavily restrict transferring, poo poo is going to be really broken. I hope someone does this and doesn't read the "fine"print about dance. The meltdown upon realisation would be pretty great.
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I'm guessing skills can only be transferred between characters of the same color or the same weapon type. So you can give Lyn's Astra to Marth, but not to Effie, for example. Also you probably cant transfer the skill if you already have a skill in the same slot.
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I would imagine you can only give units skill in the a-b-c slot that's normally empty i.e. Subaki can only gain a C skill.
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It's probably ABC skills between same colors/weapon types, yeah. Which would mean things like Brash Assault Lyn (guaranteed Sol Katti doubles on anyone) are fair game.
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Philip Rivers posted:It's probably ABC skills between same colors/weapon types, yeah. Which would mean things like Brash Assault Lyn (guaranteed Sol Katti doubles on anyone) are fair game. Also allows for Vantage Takumi from Gordin
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I've been wondering for a while why people thought Camilla was bad, when mine has been brutalising basically everything in Arena. Then I realised I'd rolled a +Attack -Res Camilla and it all became clear to me. Also holy god Vantage takumi is going to be a loving nightmare. My usual tactic of Robin eating a Takumi attack and then counterattacking for the kill won't work any more.
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Andrast posted:Also allows for Vantage Takumi from Gordin Oh god. MRobin will basically be mandatory to enter Arena.
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Feb 24, 2017 12:18
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Brash Assault Lyn will be the true Vantage Takumi counter. Tank a shot and then double him through the Threaten Spd next turn 
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Feb 24, 2017 12:19
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Just one-shot him with Nino, obviously. Nino is the answer to most problems, actually.
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Feb 24, 2017 12:42
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remember when people were sassing Nino before the game was released? good times
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I just realized that checking every single unit for unexpected skills in arena is going to be really tedious, no matter what the restrictions on inheritance are.
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Clarste posted:Just one-shot him with Nino, obviously. Neutral Atk Nino needs +12 Atk (so like Hone Atk 3 plus another buff) to one shot neutral HP/Res Takumi. Not ridiculous but not nearly as clean as Brash Assault Lyn.
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Philip Rivers posted:Neutral Atk Nino needs +12 Atk (so like Hone Atk 3 plus another buff) to one shot neutral HP/Res Takumi. Not ridiculous but not nearly as clean as Brash Assault Lyn. Well, more practically what happens is you get a Spd buff on Nino and double him. She'll live with 6 HP on average, but you probably won't need her to take any more hits. ...Especially if you give her Desperation.
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Clarste posted:Well, more practically what happens is you get a Spd buff on Nino and double him. She'll live with 6 HP on average, but you probably won't need her to take any more hits. ...Especially if you give her Desperation. Oh right, Nino fast Still, Brash Assault Lyn is gonna be strong and my good friend. OHKOing anyone with less than 102 EHP [WTA * (HP + 2*DEF)] means she one shots every major non-blue offensive threat in the game, which importantly includes all the important sword lords, Takumi, and even Linde. Philip Rivers fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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Speaking of, here's another example for the guy upthread who was skeptical of neutral units, a freshly 40'd 5* Nino: Unless I've misread two different sites, that's neutral values down the board.
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Yes it is. I have Nino's stats permanently burned into my eyes.
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Yorkshire Tea posted:I've been wondering for a while why people thought Camilla was bad, when mine has been brutalising basically everything in Arena. I'm pretty sure you can still do this. Takumi will need to be +atk nature with +atk and +spd buffs to do enough damage to kill Robin. And that's only if Robin is -def without +hp.
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if vantage takumi becomes a thing i'm going to be real happy i 5*ed catria instead of sharena, but right now i'm mostly feeling buyers remorse
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Andrast posted:Also allows for Vantage Takumi from Gordin I'm willing to bet they have to be the same rank too so you would have to spend 20k feathers to make gordin 5*.
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Fortunately I usually deal with Takumi in one round with Tharja so even if Vantage becomes a thing I'm mostly safe.Nuebot posted:I'm willing to bet they have to be the same rank too so you would have to spend 20k feathers to make gordin 5*. That would actually be interesting since 4* with good custom abilities would probably often be better than a 5* for non-whales
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Vantage Takumi will be much better on offense than on defense because you can deal with him if you're prepared to ORKO him but expect lots of dumb AIs to mash themselves to bits against him.
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Sadly, my Mrobin will be retired after this since the dumb gently caress has -spd. The extra def he got in return does almost nothing to help him survive. Instead, I've been using Ogma to alpha strike takumi's before they can get a shot off.
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Is there a setting for the arena to allow people to attack you? I've never been attacked once, are people just scared of my sic Linde?
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It only shows defensive wins. So your team has lost every time.
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Vitamin P posted:Is there a setting for the arena to allow people to attack you? I've never been attacked once, are people just scared of my sic Linde? I run a Thraja team, so I'm near the end of a good streak I will likely choose intermediate over an advanced with Linde at the front, so yea maybe try changing your lead to a swordlord or something that anyone will bite on.
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SpaceCadetBob posted:I run a Thraja team, so I'm near the end of a good streak I will likely choose intermediate over an advanced with Linde at the front, so yea maybe try changing your lead to a swordlord or something that anyone will bite on. You can cancel an arena match at easy/mid/advanced selection screen without losing your streak by the way
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