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SOME PIG posted:How many Soldiers/Marines/Airmen/Sailors are really going to be able to pull the trigger against their own countrymen, family members, friends, etc.? Lol like, all of them - don't worry the military knows how to wipe that pesky morality and hesitation squeaky clean from our soldiers.
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I was in jrotc through all of high school so a lot of my friends signed up after graduating. I'd say that over 75% of them stopped thinking for themselves and are now loving crazy. The other 25% got out after their first contract
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Yeah, most career soldiers I've known have learned to compartmentalize that poo poo to the point where I don't think they'd have much trouble pulling the trigger to put down "subversives." Not to mention that a lot of this poo poo will be done by drone assassination if it comes down to it, and that's an even further layer of remove. Armed insurrection would only be possible in the U.S. if it was such a large proportion of the population that it turned into an actual civil war, and I just don't see that happening.
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SOME PIG posted:I haven't read Che's book on guerrilla warfare, but it seems that a dedicated volunteer army almost always wins against a professional/conscript army, no matter the size (barring outside intervention). The key question is of popular support. The volunteer army can only succeed if popular support is largely in favour of the Guerrillas. Furthermore, America has been practicing counterinsurgency for a very long time by now, and would have an exceptionally strong home ground advantage unless the country was not behind it's military. That would require a very VERY dramatic cultural shift.
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Spangly A posted:It does not allow for good journalism. ...then how come there is good journalism?
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Stinky_Pete posted:...then how come there is good journalism? Every system has glitches here and there.
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jackpot posted:Like this, but in Richmond, Virginia and wanting to get involved. Don't have much money, don't have a ton of time, but wondering how I can get the most bang for the buck in making the world a little less of a shithole. Should I just cold-call (email) the Henrico county Democratic party and offer to help, or is there some smarter, more effective way to spend my time?
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Reading back a few pages now, but in the mean time is there any value to this Jon Ossoff character that the Daily Kos spam asked me to donate to? How can we turn that district blue?
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Feb 16, 2017 01:44
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Can anyone recommend an organization to donate to that promotes workers' rights? I'm guessing that unions can't just take financial contributions, and a lot of things like Fair Labor Association seem to also be only for members / industry exclusive.
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Does anyone here have any good ideas on how to track down a rep in hiding? Steven Palazzo has gone completely MIA lately, and has seemingly completely disconnected from even his constituents. All we wanna do is ask him why he's supporting a bill to end the EPA when our coastal waters are literally full of flesh-eating bacteria for reasons no one can fathom* *It's the BP oil spill. It wasn't fully cleaned up and everyone knows it.
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Veyrall posted:Does anyone here have any good ideas on how to track down a rep in hiding? Steven Palazzo has gone completely MIA lately, and has seemingly completely disconnected from even his constituents. How does an oil spill cause flesh-eating bacteria?  Have you tried calling a regional office? Like, are you saying he hasn't appeared in public, or that literally his entire staff is MIA and they aren't taking calls/letters? If it's the latter that's kind of bad, and I'm not really sure what you could do. If he and his staff have disappeared and completely refuse to talk to anyone, I'd try and get in contact with a local paper or news organization and urge them to look into it. Maybe they'll run a story and try and get him to show back up.
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Lightning Knight posted:How does an oil spill cause flesh-eating bacteria? Lightning Knight posted:If he and his staff have disappeared and completely refuse to talk to anyone, I'd try and get in contact with a local paper or news organization and urge them to look into it. Maybe they'll run a story and try and get him to show back up.
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Feb 19, 2017 10:09
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or find out where he lives and get enough people to make noise outside his house
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Hey all. Crossposting from the DSA thread in C-SPAM. I'm getting the ball rolling in NH.  OhFunny posted:Hey everyone the NH DSA had another meeting. 24 people showed up. It was a bit of a cluster because the bar wasn't prepared for all of us (they told me they a separate room for us when I made the reservation, but that wasn't true), but we had a good discussion in smaller groups. One person might be able to get us space at NCC or maybe the Hooksett Library. A lot of people want to do something, but seem unsure what they can do. I hope to lockdown a larger venue and channel this into something that will make a positive difference in NH. OhFunny posted:Sure thing.
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Here are some more things to fill your email box with and show up to: https://www.indivisibleguide.com/ - Explicitly copying Tea Party tactics to great effect. Lots of press coverage, and a great way to start invading town hall meetings. https://justicedemocrats.com/ - For DNC reform by primarying any fucker who supports Trump even a little bit. https://brandnewcongress.org/ - Grassroots House invasion tactics. https://www.resistancerecess.com/ - More Town Hall action, mostly led by the Indivisible folks. https://swingleft.org/ - It's been posted a bunch but still. Keep an eye on your local swing district, find out how you can help.
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The game is up guys, he figured you out
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Feb 22, 2017 03:13
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Also, NASA is funded by the government.
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Feb 22, 2017 03:37
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I heard COINTELPRO was a government conspiracy.
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Feb 22, 2017 03:58
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Activism planned by actiivists, where does it end. 
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Kekekela posted:Activism planned by actiivists, where does it end. people getting together to express their views on the manner in which they are governed the temerity* of it is breathtaking perhaps we should now be saying "impertinence"
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Just got back from our local dems meeting where the county supervisor of elections was speaking. Really impressed with the continued turnout and enthusiasm. There's a planned protest about to be going down outside our congressman's office in addition to continued strong attendance at town halls etc. Also specifically directed people to 5calls.org, and an upcoming meeting of indivisible (which leadership has already been attending).
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Annual Prophet posted:people getting together to express their views on the manner in which they are governed Untimely demise to the forces of opression [urinating dog!!!]
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Tias posted:Untimely demise to the forces of opression [urinating dog!!!] Echo gnomics?
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Gonna be attending my first city hall meeting tonight. Palazzo is trying to avoid it, so we'll see what happens.
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Kekekela posted:Just got back from our local dems meeting where the county supervisor of elections was speaking. Local NPR reported that that death panels guy was forced to resign, good job 
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ate all the Oreos posted:Local NPR reported that that death panels guy was forced to resign, good job You mean the senator who brought up death panels to say why he voted against the ACA has resigned? Or was it just some staff guy who doesn't matter?
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Jack Gladney posted:You mean the senator who brought up death panels to say why he voted against the ACA has resigned? Or was it just some staff guy who doesn't matter? He's referring to this rear end in a top hat: https://thinkprogress.org/bilirakis-town-hall-aca-death-panels-71c85ae831f8#.ne6bebn6n I also really liked this bit from the one in Wesley Chapel this week: quote:"I just would really like to hear you say publicly that there is no such thing as death panels in the ACA," Bunch said.
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Kekekela posted:He's referring to this rear end in a top hat: https://thinkprogress.org/bilirakis-town-hall-aca-death-panels-71c85ae831f8#.ne6bebn6n Yeah they played a clip of that bit and he sounded really loving pissed to have to say it it was great
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Oh also my mom sent me some pictures, she apparently went to a protest last weekend. She's 68 and old enough to have attended protests against Nixon and Vietnam (where she got tear gassed on the whitehouse lawn) and was friends with some of the founders of the Students for a Democratic Society, so I think it's real neat that she's still going 
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:no you see Perez getting elected is a good thing because Larger and more organized DSA chapters?
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Perez was one of the best possible VP choices back months ago, and he's working with Ellison. Give him a chance. Or, you know, just shout about how the next candidate and Trump are equally bad, whatever.
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dwarf74 posted:Perez was one of the best possible VP choices back months ago, and he's working with Ellison. Give him a chance. Given what happened with the last candidate and Trump I'm surprised you can be so dumb-as-poo poo
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Feral Integral posted:Given what happened with the last candidate and Trump I'm surprised you can be so dumb-as-poo poo It's kind of premature to get the knives out.
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Not in this thread please. The DNC chair doesn't matter. What matters is town halls, bench building and constant protest. The Tea Party didn't transform the Republican party in a month, nor will we transform the Democrats in a month.
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:Not in this thread please. The DNC chair doesn't matter. What matters is town halls, bench building and constant protest. The Tea Party didn't transform the Republican party in a month, nor will we transform the Democrats in a month. I agree with this, and also note that effective leftism does not equal party engagement, exclusively. If you don't want to engage with the party and still want to fight, join narrower groups like Fight for 15, BLM, the various pipeline protestor groups, and show up to vote for candidates in unsafe districts that might support your groups on the side. Edit: Oh and if you're mad about Ellison losing, write your congresspeople, your governor, etc. Don't bitch about Ellison losing, just tell them that if Perez sucks you're gonna bail and tell all of your friends to bail too. You probably shouldn't actually bail, but you can let them think you would. 
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"Evil wins because Leftists are stupid."
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xcheopis posted:"Evil wins because Leftists are stupid." I wouldn't say stupid but certainly picky. Decades of refusing to assert any kind of influence at any time means the system grows in a fashion consistent with your non-existence. It's pretty rich to say you're being ignored when you are staying silent. That's why it's so informative to see things moving along now, even if it's under these circumstances. Engagement is good, because it shows what power it has - Perez might not have the career history of defending civil and labor rights that Ellison had, or the broad organizational leadership experience, or the leftist credentials from 6 months ago, but he's a step in the right direction over the likes of Kaine. FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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FAUXTON posted:I wouldn't say stupid but certainly picky. Decades of refusing to assert any kind of influence at any time Do you know literally anything about the left movement in the US or are you intentionally dense.
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