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Pryor on Fire posted:Great choice on the thread title, who says BFC doesn't know how to loving party? Good news: diamond in Q2 Bad news: won't want to see a loving airport for the next few years after this
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Dreadite posted:Good news: diamond in Q2 But how will you use your global upgrade certs then?
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I love to lurk this thread but holy poo poo does that (Arzakon title post) sound awful.
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EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:I love to lurk this thread but holy poo poo does that (Arzakon title post) sound awful. If its in first class then no big deal. Especially if its paid first class and not a mileage or certificate upgrade to get that sweet, sweet 1.5 multiplier on MQMs. If you do a dumb thing like I did and fly to Singapore and back in coach with a 6 hour turnaround you will hate yourself for a little bit. My GUCs have come in pretty handy though.
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I'm taking my wife to Paris for her birthday because there was a $400 r/t fare LAX-CDG-LAX. Needless to say, it is in economy. And just Thursday-Sunday.
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Well, it was fun while it lasted. New private equity overlords are implementing the same lovely travel policies that are taking over the corporate world.
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How do you guys get these upgrades and stuff? And like can someone link or provide an explanation of MQMS and all this poo poo? Also, are the alliances based off credit cards? E: I may move to Austin in the future for clients around the midwest.... What airline will be my most common
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Mandalay posted:I'm taking my wife to Paris for her birthday because there was a $400 r/t fare LAX-CDG-LAX. Needless to say, it is in economy. And just Thursday-Sunday.
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i fly airplanes posted:These transatlantic fares have been absolutely insane as of late. I saw NYC to Paris for around $400 a few weeks ago. These are just for travel now, right? Summer fares seem to be the standard prices.
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Residency Evil posted:These are just for travel now, right? Summer fares seem to be the standard prices. Around Thanksgiving the prices for Jan-Apr were amazing for Europe and Asia but its over now. Summer was the usual.
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Residency Evil posted:These are just for travel now, right? Summer fares seem to be the standard prices. Summer is always a bit more expensive, but I also saw them for about $500-600 roundtrip as well a few weeks back, from LAX to Europe on UA and some other airlines. It's still available for other months, I think. SWISS is a great airline: https://www.google.com/flights/?gl=...267-ZRHLAX0LX40 EDIT: nope it's still available: On Virgin Atlantic, which is absolutely fantastic. https://www.google.com/flights/?gl=...5-SEALAX0DL1151 For the poor bastards that need to fly American Airlines: https://www.google.com/flights/?gl=...78,LHRLAX0BA283 $558 for Air New Zealand nonstop LAX-LHR is pretty much a steal: https://www.google.com/flights/?gl=US#search;f=LAX;t=LHR,LGW,STN,LCY,LTN,SEN,QQS;d=2017-09-11;r=2017-09-18;a=NZ $1358 for Premium Economy for early August, which is basically only $300 more than economy for these dates: https://www.google.com/flights/?gl=...X0NZ1;sc=p;a=NZ i fly airplanes fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Feb 23, 2017 |
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14 hours in business class is still lovely, sorry. It beats the gently caress out of economy, but it still sucks. Waroduce posted:How do you guys get these upgrades and stuff? And like can someone link or provide an explanation of MQMS and all this poo poo? Diamond Medallions on Delta get the option of selecting a number of choice benefits each year, including 4 global upgrade certificates. The same/similar is true for most top level status on the major US airlines. All airlines have three kinds of things: 1. Miles. These are what you redeem for tickets, upgrades, etc. 2. Qualifying Miles. These are what help determine your status, and is basically how much you actually fly. RDMs, EQMs, MQMs depending on airlines. For Delta, MQMs is short for Medallion Qualifying Miles. This prevents jackasses with the credit card from actually earning status. There are certain tiers to hit status levels. 3. Qualifying Dollars. These also help determine your status and is based on dollar spend with the airline. There are certain tiers to hit status levels. This prevents FT jagoffs from buying a thousand transpacific tickets at four dollars each and getting status. Alliances are not based on credit cards. There are three big ones: Skyteam, Star Alliance, and OneWorld. The degree of cooperation between alliance partners is highly variable. Skyteam - Delta, KLM, AF, China Eastern, China Southern, Gol, Korean Air, Virgin(?), Alitalia, Aeromexico, and a bunch of garbage airlines. Star Alliance - United, Lufthansa Group, ANA, SAS, Turkish, Singapore, AirCanada and a bunch of garbage airlines. OneWorld - AA, British, Aer Lingus, Iberia, JAL, Cathay Pacific, Qantas, LATAM and a bunch of garbage airlines. Austin is vaguely Southwest territory, I think.
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PVG - ORD on a 787 for $600 that was still so empty I had a choice of which empty middle row or window row I wanted to lay down in. 
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:14 hours in business class is still lovely, sorry. It beats the gently caress out of economy, but it still sucks. If I'm out of Austin and responsible for the midwest, what would you recommend as far as alliances go? E: I can pick what and when I fly pretty much. It's all on my card and the company reimburses Waroduce fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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Waroduce posted:If I'm out of Austin and responsible for the midwest, what would you recommend as far as alliances go? A lot of people would kill for your travel policy. You will have to be picking flights within reason, but airlines have set it up so that they want people to fly the most expensive flights at the moment to earn the most miles for themselves. This puts your own self interest at odds with your company, since they're the ones paying. Assuming you're flying from Austin to the Midwest to and from every week, that's about 2000 miles roundtrip. Connecting may add 500 miles to a nearby airport, so let's say 3000 miles roundtrip. If you're flying 40 weeks a year, that's 120000 miles or enough to get top-tier status on any airline. If you're flying only or mostly domestic flights, I would suggest Delta: they're the best in terms of on-time performance and customer service. You'll likely connect via MSP, DTW, or JFK. If you're flying international at all, some fliers like to fly American and United, even if they are inferior domestically, because they have a lot of good international airline partners.
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Waroduce posted:If I'm out of Austin and responsible for the midwest, what would you recommend as far as alliances go? You're going to connect in Houston, Dallas, or Chicago which means AA, UA, or WN. All have shitloads of service out of AUS so I think it depends on schedule wherever you're going.
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Waroduce posted:If I'm out of Austin and responsible for the midwest, what would you recommend as far as alliances go? Yeesh Austin is kind of tough - depending on which midwest cities you need to go to I'd either go AA or Southwest. You'll almost always need to connect through DFW or ORD on AA if you cover a non-hub city, but the connections are plentiful. My friend from Austin hit plat on segments alone last year. HOWEVER, if southwest flies direct to the city you need to cover (say, Kansas City), just do that. quote:SEA-HKG-SEA-DTW-GRU-ATL-NRT-SIN-NRT-SEA in 20 days 
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Waroduce posted:If I'm out of Austin and responsible for the midwest, what would you recommend as far as alliances go? If you need to go to like twelfth tier garbage cities, AA. If you don't, WN.
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Contrary to some other posters I would not suggest Southwest for corporate travel. Their on-time record is abysmal, their network is extremely weak if you are connecting, and their destinations out of Austin are very limited if you want to go the Midwest. Connecting on Southwest is a recipe for disaster. The lack of decent awards/frequent flyer perks are also not great. I think the legacies are only option, with AA and DL the most realistic. UA is kind of backtracking if you are flying via IAH, and IAH/EWR are dumps of airports to connect through. That leaves AA and DL, and I prefer DL over the hot mess that is AA right now from the merger. i fly airplanes fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:14 hours in business class is still lovely, sorry. It beats the gently caress out of economy, but it still sucks. This is 100% accurate. Also, American's international product is completely fine. The 773 is a wonderful hard product and the 787 is as well. I would choose them with zero hesitation unless you're looking for premium economy. Out of Austin I would fly American just because I don't care for Southwest. but being in Austin you'll struggle for enough miles to get status. I would take a platinum challenge if they still exist to get status and be able to use it while building your eqm
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sellouts posted:This is 100% accurate.
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i fly airplanes posted:Contrary to some other posters I would not suggest Southwest for corporate travel. Their on-time record is abysmal, their network is extremely weak if you are connecting, and their destinations out of Austin are very limited if you want to go the Midwest. Connecting on Southwest is a recipe for disaster. The lack of decent awards/frequent flyer perks are also not great. Delta you're going to connect through ATL (what), MSP (lots of backtracking), or DTW (again, not a great location). I love Delta more than the next guy but I'd trade some of the service level benefits of DL for actually getting me to my destination faster through DFW and ORD.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Delta you're going to connect through ATL (what), MSP (lots of backtracking), or DTW (again, not a great location). I love Delta more than the next guy but I'd trade some of the service level benefits of DL for actually getting me to my destination faster through... ORD. It's too early in the morning for jokes. Granted there's some great food there, so you'll at least be comfortable.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:2. Qualifying Miles. These are what help determine your status, and is basically how much you actually fly. RDMs, EQMs, MQMs depending on airlines. For Delta, MQMs is short for Medallion Qualifying Miles. This prevents jackasses with the credit card from actually earning status. There are certain tiers to hit status levels. KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Delta you're going to connect through ATL (what), MSP (lots of backtracking), or DTW (again, not a great location). I love Delta more than the next guy but I'd trade some of the service level benefits of DL for actually getting me to my destination faster through DFW and ORD. They may be able to get some SLC flights too, but yeah, I agree with you. I have a co-worker that lives in Austin and trips to either coast are fine on Delta going through ATL, DTW, or SLC. Anything in the middle of the country though, and he usually flies AA because of the easy connection to anywhere from DFW. DJCobol fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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I really appreciate the advice guys. I was checking some of the recent locations I've been this year such as KC, TPA, CLT, Indy, and places I'm booked for like Cleveland, Denver and Phoenix and it seems like AA flights are much better timed and actually get me there while most of Delta departing out of AUS is very early or very late and routes throught ATL with very short layovers.... I really prefer Delta to AA and I feel like it has more options up and down the east and west coasts, but AA seems like it would logistically make my life much easier. I have a CSP (its my first credit card) currently and they don't partner with AA, they use united. I've forced like 5 grand through it in the month i've owned it and I am considering opening another card that will give me lounge access and that would synergize with AA. any opinions? Also are lounges just like nicer areas? is there anything special about them? Free booze? Sorry for all the questions, I haven't ever really traveled so regularly for business before and I have no idea what I'm doing. I just want to maximize my returns. The plan is to give me the midwest and start an office in Austin under me within the next 3 months and I'll be flying all over even more.
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The AA lounge in Austin is poo poo and most of the airports you're flying to won't have one. Save the money.
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Waroduce posted:Also are lounges just like nicer areas? is there anything special about them? Free booze?
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DJCobol posted:Lounges will vary GREATLY depending on where you are and the carrier. Delta's old lounge in the B terminal at ATL was like a bus station, but the Sky Deck, showers, and rest of the lounge available at JFK are very, very nice. The biggest perks is that they are quieter, have free wi-fi (most airports have that now anyways), work areas with desks, free food, and free booze. I've used the lounge a few times in the event a flight is delayed, because it was easier to walk up to the desk agents in the lounge than it was to call in or wait to talk to a gate agent. I certainly wouldn't go out of my way to get lounge access though if you didn't already have it through status or a CC with a reasonable annual fee. During the Delta Hell Meltdown last August, a friend on an itinerary a couple hours ahead of me said he was in a multiple-hour rebooking line in ATL concourse B but "only" waited 90 minutes on the phone after his second flight cancelled. I didn't even have to wait at the closest Sky Club front desk after my second flight cancelled. That plus the nicer chairs is worth it.
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Cocoa Crispies posted:During the Delta Hell Meltdown last August, a friend on an itinerary a couple hours ahead of me said he was in a multiple-hour rebooking line in ATL concourse B but "only" waited 90 minutes on the phone after his second flight cancelled. I didn't even have to wait at the closest Sky Club front desk after my second flight cancelled.
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But why not just buy a day pass in those situations? I fly commercial to/from pretty big airports with no weather so misconnects are rare, maybe more frequent for y'all.
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sellouts posted:Also, American's international product is completely fine. The 773 is a wonderful hard product and the 787 is as well. I would choose them with zero hesitation unless you're looking for premium economy. It's probably limited to one market, but American's trans-Atlantic product out of ORD is total garbage. 767s that haven't been updated since the 80s. No IFEs, broken overhead lights... I'd feel so ripped off I bought a J fare.
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I flew 60 segments on Delta last year but missed the 6k spend by $500. I'm boned for silver versus gold right? They won't have pity on me?
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I upgraded on the NRT-SIN part of GRU-ATL-NRT-SIN for 12500 miles. Feeling a lot better about my big dumb itinerary now.
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Residency Evil posted:I flew 60 segments on Delta last year but missed the 6k spend by $500. I'm boned for silver versus gold right? They won't have pity on me? I sure hope not. Your cost per segment was below $100?
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I sure hope not. Your cost per segment was below $100? rude
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If they let people who spend less than $6,000 before taxes on airfare get status benefits, what's next? Letting people dressed in business casual sit in first class?
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creationist believer posted:If they let people who spend less than $6,000 before taxes on airfare get status benefits, what's next? Letting people dressed in business casual sit in first class? i've become flyertalk
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I sure hope not. Your cost per segment was below $100? Midjack posted:rude creationist believer posted:If they let people who spend less than $6,000 before taxes on airfare get status benefits, what's next? Letting people dressed in business casual sit in first class? KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:i've become flyertalk Man, this long distance relationship is even worse than I thought it'd be. 
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Residency Evil posted:Man, this long distance relationship is even worse than I thought it'd be. it doesn't hurt to ask them but you can probably only ask once
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