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Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Lakbay posted:

I know platinum games are infamously hard and I couldn't beat Sam in Reveangeance on normal and I've been scarred for life

"Show me a good time Jack..." :negative:

They've toned things down considerably for Nier: Automata because they know a lot of the audience is coming from the RPG side, not the action side. From what I've read from people who have the game already, people who are already fans of Platinum Games should start on Hard (which is the equivalent of Normal for a Platinum game) or Very Hard (equivalent to Hard in a Platinum game). Normal is tuned for people who are in it for the RPG stuff and story and don't mind having to pay some attention to action combat. And there's also an Easy mode for "gently caress this, let me button-mash my way to victory."

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lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

Lol in what platinum game is hard difficulty "everything kills you in one hit" because that's what very hard is in automata

Phantasium
Dec 27, 2012

Nier Automata literally has a mode where the game plays itself for you.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

lets hang out posted:

Lol in what platinum game is hard difficulty "everything kills you in one hit" because that's what very hard is in automata

Haha, I didn't realize that. In that case, Hard = Normal, Very Hard = Revengeance except you're the only one who's made of glass

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
:getin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2AHoQ9et-s&hd=1

fridge corn posted:

That sounds cool and all but I just googled it and it looks like dumb anime bullshit??? 🤔
you're really striving to be as low-effort a poster as possible aren't you

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

I wish there was something above hard that wasnt all attacks are OHKO because that just doesnt sound fun at all

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

On Nier: Automata's Very Hard, is it that attacks take all your health but you can auto-use healing items so your healing item stash is your real health meter, or is it "gently caress your healing, get hit and you die"?

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Yeah that sounds more like a Dante Must Die bonus mode, but Taro gotta troll. Beating it probably gives you one bronze trophy or something.

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

Nier's an RPG right? You probably have to grind before you can beat that.

MMF Freeway
Sep 15, 2010

Later!

Harrow posted:

On Nier: Automata's Very Hard, is it that attacks take all your health but you can auto-use healing items so your healing item stash is your real health meter, or is it "gently caress your healing, get hit and you die"?

I saw someone in the nier thread say that the auto-chip doesn't work like it did in the demo in that it won't use a healing item for you when you would have died.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
All this Platinum talk is making me want to play Bayonetta again, assuming the Wii U still works under all that dust.

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



it's caused a lot of personal reflection on my part that playing as a literally nude robot with high heels in revengeance didn't cause me to bat an eye but seeing what to me otherwise looks like revengeance 2 and something i'd really like involves practically the same robot wearing a cocktail dress stockings with garter belts and a thong has completely removed my desire to play it at all because i consider my very low standard of personal dignity to be above that kind of videogame

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

Harrow posted:

On Nier: Automata's Very Hard, is it that attacks take all your health but you can auto-use healing items so your healing item stash is your real health meter, or is it "gently caress your healing, get hit and you die"?

That auto-healing to save you from dying was only in the demo. The auto item chip in the full game will use an item if you drop below 30% but won't do anything to save you if you take a hit that just kills you outright.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Cowcaster posted:

it's caused a lot of personal reflection on my part that playing as a literally nude robot with high heels in revengeance didn't cause me to bat an eye but seeing what to me otherwise looks like revengeance 2 and something i'd really like involves practically the same robot wearing a cocktail dress stockings with garter belts and a thong has completely removed my desire to play it at all because i consider my very low standard of personal dignity to be above that kind of videogame
Whatta prude!

MMF Freeway
Sep 15, 2010

Later!

Cowcaster posted:

it's caused a lot of personal reflection on my part that playing as a literally nude robot with high heels in revengeance didn't cause me to bat an eye but seeing what to me otherwise looks like revengeance 2 and something i'd really like involves practically the same robot wearing a cocktail dress stockings with garter belts and a thong has completely removed my desire to play it at all because i consider my very low standard of personal dignity to be above that kind of videogame

They got you covered bud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8DwSrHJtGE

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Cowcaster posted:

playing as a literally nude robot with high heels in revengeance

You played Revengeance wrong because you weren't wearing the mariachi costume for the remainder of the game after unlocking it.

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



haveblue posted:

You played Revengeance wrong because you weren't wearing the mariachi costume for the remainder of the game after unlocking it.

edit: playing a nonzero portion of revengeance as a literally nude robot with high heels

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



it's also probably worth mentioning i don't think i'd have the same problem if i got a chance to play bayonetta? i think because as far as i know at least that game is at no point trying to take itself seriously where on the other hand nier looks like it's going to contain at least 99% navel gazing teens moaning to each other while wearing fetish outfits

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

Help Im Alive posted:

What games do you like fridge corn

Im playing xcom2 right now and enjoying it

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.



I don't like crouching in mega mans, you should have to slide or dash under things, imo.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Cowcaster posted:

it's also probably worth mentioning i don't think i'd have the same problem if i got a chance to play bayonetta? i think because as far as i know at least that game is at no point trying to take itself seriously where on the other hand nier looks like it's going to contain at least 99% navel gazing teens moaning to each other while wearing fetish outfits

Did you watch/play the first level? It may be "serious", but in a totally ridiculous way.

Like, she's fighting wind-up toy robots for most of it and then fights what amounts to Devastator with bucket wheel excavator arms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvvIi6uqJbM&hd=1

edit:

Lurdiak posted:

I don't like crouching in mega mans, you should have to slide or dash under things, imo.
you don't like a lot of things.

CrashCat
Jan 10, 2003

another shit post


Lakbay posted:

I want to play Nier Automata but I'm afraid even the easiest difficulty will be too hard for me or that some of the content will be locked behind the higher difficulties.

I almost died in the demo on normal difficulty :(

There are a lot of assists available (you can pick and choose) for easy mode, I doubt you'll be unable to complete it. But there will likely be a separate ending or some poo poo for the die hards, I dunno, just youtube that crap when you've finished :shrug:

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Yoko Taro games are serious but often don't take themselves seriously.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




"Teen navel gazing" Might be the biggest underestimation of taro yoko's storytelling ive seen

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Cowcaster posted:

it's also probably worth mentioning i don't think i'd have the same problem if i got a chance to play bayonetta? i think because as far as i know at least that game is at no point trying to take itself seriously where on the other hand nier looks like it's going to contain at least 99% navel gazing teens moaning to each other while wearing fetish outfits

Nier takes itself about as seriously as Revengence does, which is to say barely at all.

LawfulWaffle
Mar 11, 2014

Well, that aligns with the vibes I was getting. Which was, like, "normal" kinda vibes.
I'm pretty sure the android naming convention in Neir 2 signifies their role. 9S is a support character, 6O and 21O are Operators, and there's a 2A character I would classify as Assault or Aggressive. With that in mind, I think Neir 2 stars a character name "To Battle" and I think that's pretty cool. I won't be surprised if there's a Shakespeare reference too but I'd prefer it if the plot was about sending the android To Battle to battle with the objective to battle.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Captain Invictus posted:

you don't like a lot of things.

:saddowns:

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

ImpAtom posted:

Nier takes itself about as seriously as Revengence does, which is to say barely at all.

So it's okay that a game features tasteless near-nudity that is completely irrelevant to the narrative or gameplay because it's not taking itself seriously?

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

LawfulWaffle posted:

I'm pretty sure the android naming convention in Neir 2 signifies their role. 9S is a support character, 6O and 21O are Operators, and there's a 2A character I would classify as Assault or Aggressive. With that in mind, I think Neir 2 stars a character name "To Battle" and I think that's pretty cool. I won't be surprised if there's a Shakespeare reference too but I'd prefer it if the plot was about sending the android To Battle to battle with the objective to battle.

Is 2B's purpose to battle... or to be? makes u think

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



ImpAtom posted:

Nier takes itself about as seriously as Revengence does, which is to say barely at all.

that's heartening if true but all of the internet osmosis plot discussion about this nier and the one before it has been exclusively focused on how super melancholy and dark and joyless the setting is and like you play the game 7 times and each time it gets more doleful and miserable so i'm not really sure if i trust this opinion

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

fridge corn posted:

So it's okay that a game features tasteless near-nudity that is completely irrelevant to the narrative or gameplay because it's not taking itself seriously?

It's okay any time really

CrashCat
Jan 10, 2003

another shit post


lets hang out posted:

That auto-healing to save you from dying was only in the demo. The auto item chip in the full game will use an item if you drop below 30% but won't do anything to save you if you take a hit that just kills you outright.
I can't find a full chip list, there might be something in there to deal with the OHKOs. But if you're playing Very Hard it seems to me like you asked for it

Jay Rust
Sep 27, 2011

What I want to see is an end to female action stars wearing high heels and running, that stuff is just crazy!

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Legit, I do hope there's a costume where 2B gets to wear pants so that I can show this game to my friends without being embarrassed. At least there are a couple other playable characters and neither of them dress like that.

fridge corn posted:

So it's okay that a game features tasteless near-nudity that is completely irrelevant to the narrative or gameplay because it's not taking itself seriously?

I dunno, is it okay in Bayonetta?

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Jay Rust posted:

What I want to see is an end to female action stars wearing high heels and running, that stuff is just crazy!

There should be a bit where they power up by taking their heels (limiters) off

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Nier: Automata does feature full-frontal male nudity. Well, sort of. They're androids so they don't have any genitals, but they still show up totally naked pretty early on.

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



Jay Rust posted:

What I want to see is an end to female action stars wearing high heels and running, that stuff is just crazy!

as revengeance and the metal gear solid series before it proved the actual solution is just to make men do it too

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

fridge corn posted:

So it's okay that a game features tasteless near-nudity that is completely irrelevant to the narrative or gameplay because it's not taking itself seriously?
no, you don't get to skip on in here as a one-liner shitposter and then drop a can of worms like this.

Cowcaster posted:

that's heartening if true but all of the internet osmosis plot discussion about this nier and the one before it has been exclusively focused on how super melancholy and dark and joyless the setting is and like you play the game 7 times and each time it gets more doleful and miserable so i'm not really sure if i trust this opinion
much like revengeance, which has a shitload of plot that is completely, utterly skippable, you don't have to play it multiple times. you can play it just the once.

CrashCat
Jan 10, 2003

another shit post


Harrow posted:

Legit, I do hope there's a costume where 2B gets to wear pants so that I can show this game to my friends without being embarrassed. At least there are a couple other playable characters and neither of them dress like that.
Well I did already see a costume where she gets to wear less pants, so who knows

hahahahaha who am I kidding

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Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
It's Yoko Taro. I'm pretty sure he said "hit me with all ya got" when someone mentioned there was already porn of the characters after the demo came out

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