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GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that people will still hate Trump at least roughly the same amount in November as they do now. Especially when that turd of a health care bill comes out

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The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


can't wait for that Reichstag fire.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

The Kingfish posted:

can't wait for that Reichstag fire.

as long as joe manchin is locked inside

susan b buffering
Nov 14, 2016

The Kingfish posted:

can't wait for that Reichstag fire.

9/11 was America's reichstag fire

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Grey Fox posted:

oh, word?

Yea, word. Sorry you're having such a hard time accepting reality.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!
Democrats also needs to stop acting like republicans will ever act in good faith or respect the spirit of the law.

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
continually losing those seats over the years was totally outside of their control, you guys -- i mean, what did you expect Democrats to do, actually offer something substantially different than 'gently caress you, got mine?' that's crazy talk how will we ever get moderate Republicans to vote for us that is a totally real demographic that exists somehow

Fiction
Apr 28, 2011

Grey Fox posted:

Can you elaborate which state?

MA, even though we don't control the governorship we hae a supermajority

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Concerned Citizen posted:

ossoff also raised $1.8 million so far, which is an absolutely nuts amount for a special election congressional

hope they don't spend it all before dude comes in like 4th or 5th in the jungle primary

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Grey Fox posted:

*education funding bill dies in GOP-controlled committee*

UGH, loving DEMOCRATS

*GOP governor vetoes funding bill to increase education funding at all levels in state*

WHY ARE THE DEMOCRATS SO BAD

*GOP legislature slashes education across the board, immediately signed by GOP governor*

WHY WONT THE DEMS DO SOMETHING

hey, here's a thing they can do: win elections instead of pulling a dread abuela and expecting the votes to be handed to them

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

https://twitter.com/seanmcelwee/status/835153906955141125

Tom Price's old seat

He regularly won with 60%+, but Trump only won he district by like 1%

This is...encouraging.

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i mean, these loving rubes can't tell us apart from republicans and we couldn't be hosed to do anything to differentiate ourselves from them. so let's just let them die and completely pave over any area with a population density smaller than 1,000/mi2

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

i mean, these loving rubes can't tell us apart from republicans and we couldn't be hosed to do anything to differentiate ourselves from them. so let's just let them die and completely pave over any area with a population density smaller than 1,000/mi2

i guarantee you this is what somebody in dnc leadership actually believes

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
purge orthopedic surgeons

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Alter Ego posted:

This is...encouraging.

as a reminder that's newt gingrich's old district, and it was less gerrymandered to favor republicans back then

Fiction
Apr 28, 2011

The Muppets On PCP posted:

as a reminder that's newt gingrich's old district, and it was less gerrymandered to favor republicans back then

it's also suburban North Atlanta

what I'm saying is if the DCCC doesn't hire the migos to do rallies for the candidate then they are truly lost

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

These centrists aren't as populated as you might think though. Bad dems are there mostly because that's all who ever applies for office.
I think this is childish thinking, that there just happens to be more dumb bad sellouts who are putting in work than good people, ratyher than that there are material forces that empower bad dems, campaign donors and lobbyists and such that buy access and prop up the sellouts and probably even get to vote the for DNC chairperson for example

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

The Muppets On PCP posted:

as a reminder that's newt gingrich's old district, and it was less gerrymandered to favor republicans back then

We're gonna lose some of these battles, but it's the ones we don't even bother suiting up for that piss me off.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxNl0hPEyuU

livestream of something

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Is this supposed to be them practicing their speeches for the national convention?

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Alter Ego posted:

We're gonna lose some of these battles, but it's the ones we don't even bother suiting up for that piss me off.

oh yeah it's good they're sending field staff, but they should've done that 20 years ago


assuming that guy even makes it to the general at best he's looking at a 55-45 defeat

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Guy from Bastan just said it's the democrats fault for not reaching the working class with their message.

He's 💯 % right

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Guy from Bastan just said it's the democrats fault for not reaching the working class with their message.

He's 💯 % right

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

The Muppets On PCP posted:

as a reminder that's newt gingrich's old district, and it was less gerrymandered to favor republicans back then

Here's the Atlanta map.

13 = SW Atlanta - mostly African Americans
11 = NW Atlanta, West Marietta and moving into the rural NW suburbs - mostly white folks
6 = North Central and NW Atlanta (the unlabeled yellow district between 11 and 7) slight amount of integration but the Democratic vote in these counties was split up between the 6th district and 7th
7 = NE Suburbs - Lots of suburban middle class white neighborhoods. I'm guessing there's a ton of economic inequality between white and black residents of these counties just based on experience
9 = Rural white people. They may live within an hour of Atlanta but they come from a totally different set of values and perceptions about politics
4 - Decatur and SE Dekalb county - Democratic stronghold like the 5th and the 13th

IMO, ceding the 4th, 13th, and 5th to Democrats allows the Republicans to split up Dem-leaning areas in North Atlanta counties between the 6th and 7th districts and tilt these districts to Republicans by way of the white suburbs farther away from the city. If Democrats are going to make gains in the US House from Georgia, it will have to be in these 2 districts. In a few years, Democrats could possibly put the 11th in play but it will be tough.

The other trick the Republicans did was balance the heavier industrial/commercial park areas along Northern Atlanta between the 6th and 7th districts. If there isn't any lower middle class housing there, people can't move there and vote against you.



Alter Ego posted:

We're gonna lose some of these battles, but it's the ones we don't even bother suiting up for that piss me off.

The DNC absolutely has to find viable candidates in every available race in order to spread out Republicans. You never know when a small scandal will break or a candidate will say something really dumb and you can't capitalize if you aren't in the race at all.

tadashi has issued a correction as of 18:16 on Feb 24, 2017

Fiction
Apr 28, 2011
Lol Hillary's on video at the DNC meeting and there's a serious audio echo issue with it.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
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gently caress off hillary

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

Fiction posted:

Lol Hillary's on video at the DNC meeting and there's a serious audio echo issue with it.

Quite a metaphor for the DNC.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
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hilary said she'll be with us every step of the way

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
Donna Brazile needs to gently caress off forever

Shut
Up
About
Russians

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Fast Luck posted:

I think this is childish thinking, that there just happens to be more dumb bad sellouts who are putting in work than good people, ratyher than that there are material forces that empower bad dems, campaign donors and lobbyists and such that buy access and prop up the sellouts and probably even get to vote the for DNC chairperson for example
the catch-22 of that particular thing is why would they get corporate funding to begin with if they can't even win elections

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


we're gonna fix the problems in the primary? then why are you still dnc chair

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

tadashi posted:

IMO, ceding the 4th, 13th, and 5th to Democrats allows the Republicans to split up Dem-leaning areas in North Atlanta counties between the 6th and 7th districts and tilt these districts to Republicans by way of the white suburbs farther away from the city. If Democrats are going to make gains in the US House from Georgia, it will have to be in these 2 districts. In a few years, Democrats could possibly put the 11th in play but it will be tough.

...

The DNC absolutely has to find viable candidates in every available race in order to spread out Republicans. You never know when a small scandal will break or a candidate will say something really dumb and you can't capitalize if you aren't in the race at all.

i agree. i'm just saying to people getting all hyped because trump underperformed in the district thinking that means it's in play this year that they need to be realistic

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

Donna Brazile needs to gently caress off forever

Shut
Up
About
Russians

They need to blow up the leadership (not literally). The problem is the leadership is clinging to power.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Condiv posted:

we're gonna fix the problems in the primary? then why are you still dnc chair

24 hours remain

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich
They don't get it and they will never get it.

They're old elitist power-and-money hungry politicians. They think the old way of doing things will work as it did in the past.

They gotta be swept out like the garbage they are.

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

They don't get it and they will never get it.

They're old elitist power-and-money hungry politicians. They think the old way of doing things will work as it did in the past.

They gotta be swept out like the garbage they are.

They assumed that young people and their technology could win an election for them the way boomers always assume there is just a button you can tell them to push to do their job for them. It's really loving annoying.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

They don't get it and they will never get it.

They're old elitist power-and-money hungry politicians. They think the old way of doing things will work as it did in the past.

They gotta be swept out like the garbage they are.

party's dead baby, party's dead

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Grey Fox posted:

*education funding bill dies in GOP-controlled committee*

UGH, loving DEMOCRATS

*GOP governor vetoes funding bill to increase education funding at all levels in state*

WHY ARE THE DEMOCRATS SO BAD

*GOP legislature slashes education across the board, immediately signed by GOP governor*

WHY WONT THE DEMS DO SOMETHING

while it's true the dems are spineless the GOP also tends to come down hard on them when they aren't

it's not great for anyone involved

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

the catch-22 of that particular thing is why would they get corporate funding to begin with if they can't even win elections
They dont need to win because Republicans are even more in the bag for the rich, they just need to be on your side if they win and to keep the socialists out

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Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Yinlock posted:

while it's true the dems are spineless the GOP also tends to come down hard on them when they aren't

it's not great for anyone involved
um have you seen what's been happening almost a decade? they do that either way

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