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Honda believes they will arrive in Melbourne with an engine as good as Mercedes ended last season with. If they hit that mark and yet aren't near the front then something will have gone horribly wrong.
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Feb 24, 2017 16:42
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I don't think Honda is the issue. It's that McLaren don't have the resources to fight to a Mercedes and Red Bull level.
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Feb 24, 2017 16:45
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1500quidporsche posted:I don't think Honda is the issue. It's that McLaren don't have the resources to fight to a Mercedes and Red Bull level. They certainly do, though.
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Feb 24, 2017 16:47
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I think Honda was very clearly the issue with recent cars so it is hard to say how competitive the rest of the car is. I mean, it obviously probably isn't but it is hard to see the other warts when the engine was so bad.
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Feb 24, 2017 16:48
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wicka posted:This is fake. Thank loving god
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Feb 24, 2017 16:52
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GramCracker posted:Thank loving god http://media.cdn.mclaren.com/images/galleries/Fernando_Alonso__Stoffel_Vandoorne_2017_1.jpg Alonso's helmet is insanely good this year, btw.
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:I think Honda was very clearly the issue with recent cars so it is hard to say how competitive the rest of the car is. I mean, it obviously probably isn't but it is hard to see the other warts when the engine was so bad. To me there were a couple of signs last year that the aero and chassis wasn't as great as they were claiming it was. I think if Honda is being honest with their gains than if they are out of the box on par with Ferrari at the start of the season it is a good sign, anything less will be concerning.
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That is a good helmet and Stoffel is a good looking guy so congrats all around McLaren
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Feb 24, 2017 16:56
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Relax, it'll look better in motion:
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1500quidporsche posted:To me there were a couple of signs last year that the aero and chassis wasn't as great as they were claiming it was. I think if Honda is being honest with their gains than if they are out of the box on par with Ferrari at the start of the season it is a good sign, anything less will be concerning. They weren't claiming it was great. They were quite open about the fact that they had to strip a bunch of downforce off the car in order to reach any kind of reasonable top speed.
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wicka posted:http://media.cdn.mclaren.com/images/galleries/Fernando_Alonso__Stoffel_Vandoorne_2017_1.jpg He's got HAMs 2008 helmet with a bit more blue pretty much. El Lobo is trying everything to get that third WDC.
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Feb 24, 2017 17:04
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Didn't Alonso say that he was definitely retiring if the 2017 car isn't "fun to drive"?
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I like the Ferrari. They made the right choice to  up the fin.I look forward to seb losing his loving mind in it.
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Feb 24, 2017 17:11
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wicka posted:They weren't claiming it was great. They were quite open about the fact that they had to strip a bunch of downforce off the car in order to reach any kind of reasonable top speed. My issue with that was that on tracks where power shouldn't have been a significant factor where they could've bolted on downforce and the car really didn't look to be going anywhere. Singapore should've been a mega track for them and they were nowhere.
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Feb 24, 2017 17:12
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Holy poo poo that McLaren livery is hideous! The way they half assed mashed it up looks awful!
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Feb 24, 2017 17:19
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The McLaren engine and chassis had issues last year. Nothing they could have done with the development restrictions was going to do poo poo for the car. I just hope they got good data and they aren't just a lovely mid pack. And I'll probably cry if they are back markers again.
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Feb 24, 2017 17:26
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the sidepods on that ferrari are ridic
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keevo posted:Orange I guess? The real reason why Are Jense retired finally comes to light
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I can't wait for Sniff Petrol's article.
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Feb 24, 2017 17:43
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That stupid livery is the only drat thing this thread has ever agreed on.
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Feb 24, 2017 17:43
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I think the livery designer is autistic
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Feb 24, 2017 17:47
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The McLaren livery looks like rear end.
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Feb 24, 2017 17:49
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Just saw the Ferrari. Wow. What a car.
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Feb 24, 2017 17:50
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Somebody overlay a BSG fighter over the orange shape on the airbox on the 3/4 shot
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Feb 24, 2017 17:53
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Vando posted:Relax, it'll look better in motion: Spyker had one of the best liveries ever. Ungh
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Feb 24, 2017 18:00
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Alain Post posted:Just saw the Ferrari. Wow. What a car.
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Feb 24, 2017 18:14
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Vando posted:Relax, it'll look better in motion  You're right!
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I can't get enough of are Dan
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Feb 24, 2017 18:16
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Alain Post posted:Just saw the Ferrari. Wow. What a car. The sidepods are very cool.
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Feb 24, 2017 18:27
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McLaren's livery reminds me of Walkinshaw Arrows. Dead team.
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Feb 24, 2017 18:34
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1500quidporsche posted:My issue with that was that on tracks where power shouldn't have been a significant factor where they could've bolted on downforce and the car really didn't look to be going anywhere. Singapore should've been a mega track for them and they were nowhere. I think their performance on slower courses was hampered by the cars low drag philosophy. Weak engine means they are not impressive on power circuits, Aero deficiencies would mean they would not be effective on slow courses either. In fact the 31's performance last year was a bit of mystery, sometimes it would do well where you wouldn't expect it to (Austria) and on tracks where you think it would have the advantage like Singapore it was nowhere like you said.
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Feb 24, 2017 18:39
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 Alright, I'm off my phone and looking at it. Let's try and just look at the car itself without puking.... 
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Feb 24, 2017 18:45
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Aside from the paint it looks fine. Benz and Ferrari still look the best though.
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I'd like to see any of these free of black paint.
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Feb 24, 2017 18:51
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Vando posted:oh hey this looks nice If you are a dog
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Alain Post posted:Just saw the Ferrari. Wow. What a car. Anticipating Big Things from your Scud Studs this year?
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