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Cowcaster posted:i think what i'm asking is for both the videogames i play and the people i interact with not to assume i'm just 100% horned up and jacking it every single second of every single day Edit: I forgot that she smacks away the camera if you try to look at her rear end, that's a great gag.
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In Training posted:That's pretty funny. Is it for getting 2B to smack the camera away? I believe so you have to do it 10 times to get the credit
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Feb 24, 2017 18:50
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I hated Quiet's character design and spent so much time and money to researching and developing pants for her. Witcher 3 has nudity, sure, and of course there's a justification for why all sorceresses have their cleavage hanging out all the time but it was closer to the center on a spectrum of respectability Nier: Automata's main character is dressed up in some gothic lolita fetish outfit which also makes her look 14, but it looks like as long as you the player are not gross about it, the game will not be gross about it, which I think is a fine position to take
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Captain Invictus posted:I think you may have some self confidence issues if that is a huge deal for you. Her outfit isn't nearly as bad as you're implying, man. it probably doesn't help i perpetually smell of cum
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Feb 24, 2017 18:51
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quiet's xof outfit rules
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Closer on the spectrum of respectability: making women a literal collectible
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In Training posted:Closer on the spectrum of respectability: making women a literal collectible Hey that was only the first Witcher....
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Hey, Danny O'Dwyer's new NoClip trailer is out. The Witness, Spelunky, Frog Fractions and Frog Fractions 2 in 4+ videos in March, it seems! Can't wait! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gudtNRTzsE4&hd=1
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In Training posted:Closer on the spectrum of respectability: making women a literal collectible That was Witcher 1. Witcher 3's nudity takes place mainly in the context of loving long-term relationships which are central to the characters, hope that helps
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ImpAtom posted:Nier takes itself about as seriously as Revengence does, which is to say barely at all. I got the Platinum trophy in Nier and saw all endings and this definitely isn't the case at all. It's a goofy game with plenty of depressive anime moments, closer to an anime tragicomedy than anything.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:That was Witcher 1. Witcher 3's nudity takes place mainly in the context of loving long-term relationships which are central to the characters, hope that helps also some loving and sucking on the side
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:That was Witcher 1. Witcher 3's nudity takes place mainly in the context of loving long-term relationships which are central to the characters, hope that helps Also the titty monsters and random women you can have sex with. In fact the latter outnumbers the former about 4-1 considering there are exactly 2 of the former.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:That was Witcher 1. Witcher 3's nudity takes place mainly in the context of loving long-term relationships which are central to the characters, hope that helps Lies I totally screwed that witch lady near the start of the game and then killed her 
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Witcher 3 should've shown pale, awkward Geralt dong
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MMF Freeway posted:There's a cheeve for that lol Lollipop Chainsaw did that too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9pYaiMoqAw
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Feb 24, 2017 18:58
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I know the real reason for the sorceresses being sexy is for the male gaze but in-universe they're world famous and reviled by most, I love that they just kind of own it and wear what they like
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ImpAtom posted:I don't know, Fridge corn, is it okay for a game that features excessive absurd violent that is completely irrelevant to the narrative or gameplay because it's not taking itself seriously? This is a false equivalency because it's widely accepted that violence is bad and so it's harder to normalise. Depicting women in sexually exploitative ways is already normalised ImpAtom posted:fridge corn, why do you think a game that features tasteless near-nudity that is completely irrelevant to the narrative or gameplay is a good game? I did not like the sex scenes in The Witcher 3 and thought they could have been handled better. I will argue that they were somewhat relevant to narrative however it was unnecessary for them to be so explicit Also, Cowcaster posted:pretty sure if geralt went around the game wearing nothing but a miniskirt and manthong with the rest of the game's setting and narrative wholly unchanged i'd have a pretty hard time explaining that to friends too
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If the sex in 3 is anything like 2 it's some real late night cable level stuff.
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Having no qualms playing a sexually exploitative game while also admitting that you'd be embarrassed to share that information with people you know is like the gamer equivalent of "I'm not racist, but..."
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the bone zone scenes aren't as good as the pg scenes, like when geralt finds out triss wants to live in a gingerbread house with him, or the geralt + yen djinn quest. in my opinion
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fridge corn posted:This is a false equivalency because it's widely accepted that violence is bad and so it's harder to normalise. Depicting women in sexually exploitative ways is already normalised If you think that violence is normalized as bad then you're wrong. We literally have politicians arguing in favor of torture, something frequently shown in games to be Good and Works. fridge corn posted:I did not like the sex scenes in The Witcher 3 and thought they could have been handled better. I will argue that they were somewhat relevant to narrative however it was unnecessary for them to be so explicit What about the sexual elements not in sex scenes? You seem okay with those, or at least not enough that you don't call it a bad game. There are plenty of ridiculous costumes in Witcher 3. Or is it only a problem if it's the playable character and you're okay with extreme sexualization as long as you're playing a man? The problem isn't that you're criticizing this. I would agree with that. It's that rather than a genuine desire to discuss it you just want to complain, but only to complain about things you dislike while giving passes to things you like. You're a coward who is only willing to take a critical standpoint when it doesn't actually apply to things you like, and then try to use that to whine at other people instead of actually caring about the issue you claim to care about. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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I also agree that the witcher 3's sex scenes feel really forced and bad. "how do we make our game more mature, I know make a sex scene" "how do we let the player know these characters care about each other, i know have them do a sex" edit: The witcher 3's writing and characterization is generally very good until it occasionally gets on the subject of boning at which point they drop the ball immediately imo CJacobs fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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Feb 24, 2017 19:10
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CJacobs posted:I also agree that the witcher 3's sex scenes feel really forced and bad. "how do we make our game more mature, I know make a sex scene" "how do we let the player know these characters care about each other, i know have them do a sex" Yeah. The second cutscene in Witcher 2 starts with close ups of boobs of bush. Well its one of the possible cutscenes I guess, it has kind of a neat opening with that.
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In Training posted:boobs... bush... neat opening
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fridge corn posted:Having no qualms playing a sexually exploitative game while also admitting that you'd be embarrassed to share that information with people you know is like the gamer equivalent of "I'm not racist, but..." I'm not saying I'm 100% happy with 2B's outfit in Automata and I wish I could make her wear pants, but at the same time, it's not a dealbreaker for me and I prefer Automata's "this is a fetish-y outfit but ultimately we're not putting this character in sexual situations and will make fun of the player for trying to be a pervert" approach to Kojima's "I swear there's a good reason to put Quiet in a thong all the time and it's not just because I want to look at lady butt, no sir." And hey, Automata's equal-opportunity--the first time we're introduced to one of the male androids, he's totally nude for several scenes. I mean, he's an android and has no genitals, but he's still nude the whole time. Anyway I'm sure I played into some sort of rhetorical trap so I'll just go ahead and accept that I'm a garbage misogynist who should be disregarded entirely and you win so I can save you the trouble
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CJacobs posted:edit: The witcher 3's writing and characterization is generally very good until it occasionally gets on the subject of boning at which point they drop the ball immediately imo I think it's a legacy of the novels which, more or less, were pretty pulpy. The original Witcher wholeheartedly embraced that and while Witcher 3 is the most canon-accurate to the novels it also tries to do more of its own thing and the end result is that it has some extremely strong writing mixed with the pulp remnants of the original.
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oddium posted:the bone zone scenes aren't as good as the pg scenes, like when geralt finds out triss wants to live in a gingerbread house with him, or the geralt + yen djinn quest. in my opinion Agreed, the sex scenes are just kind of awkward and dumb but outside of those the game's relationship writing is a lot better
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The sex parts of TW3 are awkward because hot babes continually throw themselves at Geralt despite him being a really passive dude with no game who defeats his enemies by casting Quen and retreating over and over.
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In Training posted:Closer on the spectrum of respectability: making women a literal collectible
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ImpAtom posted:I think it's a legacy of the novels which, more or less, were pretty pulpy. The original Witcher wholeheartedly embraced that and while Witcher 3 is the most canon-accurate to the novels it also tries to do more of its own thing and the end result is that it has some extremely strong writing mixed with the pulp remnants of the original. Maybe so. I'm one of the people that rolled my eyes at the stuffed unicorn boning thing becoming a real thing that happens, I would have been fine with it just being a funny bit of character at the start of the game. I laughed at it in the intro, CDPR, I don't need to see them actually do it
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Today's NSFW Touch the Skyrim is super relevant to this discussion
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fridge corn posted:Having no qualms playing a sexually exploitative game while also admitting that you'd be embarrassed to share that information with people you know is like the gamer equivalent of "I'm not racist, but..."
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Harrow posted:to Kojima's "I swear there's a good reason to put Quiet in a thong all the time and it's not just because I want to look at lady butt, no sir." But he said outright multiple times that that is the reason
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CJacobs posted:But he said outright multiple times that that is the reason Did he? I must have missed those in the "you'll be ashamed of your words and deeds" stuff.
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the other thing i'm actually reminded of now is the EDI sexbot from mass effect 3. im so sick of all these dolled up anime fuckbots
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Harrow posted:Did he? I must have missed those in the "you'll be ashamed of your words and deeds" stuff. A couple examples: quote:"I've been ordering to Yoji [Shinkawa, the game's art director] to make the character more erotic, and he did it well," said Kojima on his English Twitter account. "Recently I've been making characters this way. I create the setting thoroughly, how he/she spent early life, name, style, favorite phrase, fashion, action, to stand the character out."  Kojimble is an rear end man edit: And personally I still believe that the "you'll be ashamed of your words and deeds" thing referred to big boss' super hostile actions toward quiet in the game and not the controversy that happened in real life (because i mean, he does throw her in a jail cell and support the idea of merc-ing her), but that's neither here nor there
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Cowcaster posted:the other thing i'm actually reminded of now is the EDI sexbot from mass effect 3. im so sick of all these dolled up anime fuckbots That was hilariously bad.
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Harrow posted:Did he? I must have missed those in the "you'll be ashamed of your words and deeds" stuff. It took Konami to be such a tremendous dick that he became a hero by comparison
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Cowcaster posted:the other thing i'm actually reminded of now is the EDI sexbot from mass effect 3. im so sick of all these dolled up anime fuckbots
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