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SoldadoDeTone posted:Holy hell is the faction war going poorly for the knights all of a sudden. We're down to eight territories this morning, fellow tinheads. I saw this an i'm worried about what happens when they hit our HQ, i'm assuming some kind of bonus points thing at the end of the season maybe? During the beta it was the EU guys that were keeping us going strong after hours i think. I mean if you really care about the faction war then i think the only answer is to play nothing but dominion since you can get so many points in that mode that it kinda overshadows everything else, especially if you're counting in the front bonuses. I think there's a reason you really only see the big pushes of territories whenever Dominion switches around on which front it's at. Either they need to have War Assets be maybe a team based effort and not personal or give a bonus when playing a gamemode where you're not going to get 8+ kills every game.
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Nasgate posted:In case any noobs are reading the thread and think this guy isn't an idiot. 1- the problem with ending the combo with omniblock is that only the warlord has a real follow up, and even that is only a light attack hit. Tell a shugoki main your point one and watch him laugh at you. Blocking a light without a gaurenteed follow up is a reset to a neutral, which assassin's have an advantage over you because they are faster in every aspect. 2- this is utter nonsense. How does being slower and permanently on the defensive give you any control over the pace or location. 3- orochi has one, peacekeeper has two. Zerker doesn't, but he also has insane damage and hyper armor on some attacks. 4-also utter nonsense. Every single assassin can GB into heavy, while only the warlord can do that. Not gonna count demon ball because although its the most fun move it also does much less damage than a real heavy.
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Feb 24, 2017 13:47
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I don't agree with most of the arguments made, but yea, as a Shugoki you don't block Assassins. You Parry them for GC into Homerun, or you trade through your armour. The problem with each of those is Parrying is super unreliable versus a lot of Assassin attacks (loving Nobushi lights) and trading sometimes can get you hit twice before your first swing lands. Headbutt is even more frustrating. You take all of their Stamina, and they can still just roll away and recharge it before you can ever reach them. Net outcome is the move being worthless in that circumstance, unless you have them at least semi-cornered - And if you're cornered by Shugoki, you GONNA DIE ANYWAY. E: Not agreeing with Double Monocle elsewhere (I think you have a case, but the arguments so far don't hold up) but just thought I'd call that piece out, specifically for Shugoki.
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Feb 24, 2017 14:03
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Captain Oblivious posted:Wardens vortex, mixup options via top light and zone, and crushing counterstrike ability do not constitute a generic moveset no. It is the best moveset currently in the game. It if was slower it'd be easy to avoid, like the other classes combos. The reason it's so devastating is because it's so hard to react to
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Feb 24, 2017 14:11
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Shockeh posted:I don't agree with most of the arguments made, but yea, as a Shugoki you don't block Assassins. You Parry them for GC into Homerun, or you trade through your armour. The problem with each of those is Parrying is super unreliable versus a lot of Assassin attacks (loving Nobushi lights) and trading sometimes can get you hit twice before your first swing lands. I've found a decent way to put on pressure as a Shugoki against an out-of-stamina opponent is to exit combat mode and just run at them. That creates a mixup: Either they dodge, in which case you can just hit guardbreak and have it guaranteed (the GB has enough range to even hit backwards dodges most of the time), or they go for an attack/counter-GB in which case you can hit charge of the oni and bowl them over for a free sideways heavy.
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Feb 24, 2017 14:14
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Got my Warden a unique weapon look. Name's Gilgamesh.
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Feb 24, 2017 15:40
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Think I'm in love with the Warlord. Love the super armor on his heavy, and some of his moves are deceptively fast. His full shield is stupid quick and you can basically always get a GB after it, plus the shield slam parry chunks their stamina like no other. The fact that you have full control to manhandle people and also look like a badass Viking with an amazing beard is just icing on the cake, why play anything else?
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Feb 24, 2017 15:47
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SoldadoDeTone posted:Holy hell is the faction war going poorly for the knights all of a sudden. We're down to eight territories this morning, fellow tinheads. in the middle of a move, wont be able to help with The Reconquista until next week
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Feb 24, 2017 16:14
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Fuzz posted:Think I'm in love with the Warlord. Love the super armor on his heavy, and some of his moves are deceptively fast. His full shield is stupid quick and you can basically always get a GB after it, plus the shield slam parry chunks their stamina like no other. The fact that you have full control to manhandle people and also look like a badass Viking with an amazing beard is just icing on the cake, why play anything else? Yeah, their leaping strike fucks up runners as well.
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Feb 24, 2017 16:16
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Perestroika posted:Definitely throw distance. I've got that on my Shugoki, and together with the relevant trait I can bowl people down ledges from half a mile away. The Shugoki "homerun" move is independent of your throw distance stat. It's that long by default.
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Feb 24, 2017 16:30
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Agean90 posted:Yeah, their leaping strike fucks up runners as well. And the dash forward headbutt is quick and hard as poo poo to parry.
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Feb 24, 2017 16:57
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So fun little 50/50 you can force as raider. If they're out of stamina you can toss an unblockable and cancel it. If they try to parry (since they can't feint cancel it when out of stamina), you parry and can get a guaranteed overhead heavy (which hits like a loving mack truck) and do it again.
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Feb 24, 2017 18:15
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Fuzz posted:And the dash forward headbutt is quick and hard as poo poo to parry. Wait, you can parry this? What the heck have I even been doing.
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Feb 24, 2017 18:18
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FunkMonkey posted:Wait, you can parry this? What the heck have I even been doing. ...I don't think you can parry it. What would the animation for that even be?
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Feb 24, 2017 18:21
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Haroshia posted:So fun little 50/50 you can force as raider. If they're out of stamina you can toss an unblockable and cancel it. If they try to parry (since they can't feint cancel it when out of stamina), you parry and can get a guaranteed overhead heavy (which hits like a loving mack truck) and do it again. I've actually found that against the classes with slower heavies it's better to just cancel it directly into a guardbreak. If they fell for it you get the GB because they're early in the swing. If they didn't you still get a GB attempt. I lost a few fights before doing this because the Shugoki slow heavy takes so long it's actually really hard to parry.
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Feb 24, 2017 18:21
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7c Nickel posted:I've actually found that against the classes with slower heavies it better to just cancel it directly into a guardbreak. If they fell for it you get the GB because they're early in the swing. If they didn't you still get a GB attempt. I lost a few fights before doing this because the Shugoki slow heavy takes so long it's actually really hard to parry. Can you overhead heavy from a gb throw when they have no stamina?
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Feb 24, 2017 18:22
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Haroshia posted:Can you overhead heavy from a gb throw when they have no stamina? Yeah just toss to the floor and take 2 steps then overhead. Mind you that's normal throw, not carry and toss.
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Feb 24, 2017 18:24
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Fuzz posted:And the dash forward headbutt is quick and hard as poo poo to parry. its really hard to parry because u cant parry it at all u dork lol!!
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Feb 24, 2017 18:24
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7c Nickel posted:Yeah just toss to the floor and take 2 steps then overhead. Good to know since instead of parrying the lighter classes will try to dodge. Not AS good because the parry keeps them out of stamina, but an option for Orochis and Peacekeepers.
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Feb 24, 2017 18:24
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Haroshia posted:...I don't think you can parry it. What would the animation for that even be? It's an orange unblockable from neutral stance so I wouldn't have figured, which is why him saying it surprised me. I like to think if you could parry it it would be a Three Stooges-esque eye poke, complete with "HONK" sound effect. Buck Wildman fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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That would explain why no one has parried it from me, then! :iamafag: Anyone have suggestions I the NAT issue? Matchmaking is terrible for me.
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Feb 24, 2017 18:36
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Fuzz posted:That would explain why no one has parried it from me, then! :iamafag: Enable UPNP on your router to fix your NAT, or get good and learn technical stuff.
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Feb 24, 2017 18:37
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:why does this AAA $60 game have so many microtransactions A) have you ever played COD or Battlefield? B) It doesn't. Everything can be earned in-game. And there's not much else to spend your steel on anyways.
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Feb 24, 2017 18:52
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 Stunning graphics. My loading screen with the characters? The characters were blurry. Territory screen? Blurry. (a game reset fixed it) I also do love games that refuse to window from time to time when I press the window key. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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Feb 24, 2017 19:52
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Duck and Cover posted:
This is actually a long time filming technique to make very fat people on camera look thinner on the cheap. Get edumacated.
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Feb 24, 2017 20:02
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For Honor: Vaseline on the camera lens to make your Shugoki look svelt. It's a feature!
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Fuzz posted:That would explain why no one has parried it from me, then! :iamafag: Set your computer/console as a DMZ. Alternatively, make sure you're not port forwarding ranges, but rather the individual ports.
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Conq help: is a heavy not guaranteed after the shield bash? I keep hearing that it is, yet every Warden on the planet constantly shuts it down. Really wondering if I should stick with this guy when Warlord feels so much easier to play in the same niche.
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The Iron Rose posted:Set your computer/console as a DMZ. Alternatively, make sure you're not port forwarding ranges, but rather the individual ports. Putting your computer in the DMZ , do port forwarding or UPNP. Most routers treat DMZ as if your computer is external, meaning i can ping your computer and do a port scan on it.
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Rainuwastaken posted:Conq help: is a heavy not guaranteed after the shield bash? I keep hearing that it is, yet every Warden on the planet constantly shuts it down. Nope. Only a light is confirmed after shield bash. Unless you push them into a wall with the bash. Then a side heavy is confirmed I think.
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Update from a UBI developer on Reddit:quote:Today (Feb 24th) we have enabled a change via a seamless maintenance which will improve the experience for players joining a match in progress in 4v4 modes. We are reducing the window of time that a player can be placed into an in-progress match, so the likelihood of being put into a match that's almost over will be greatly reduced. This, in turn, should reduce the number of players dropping before a match ends.
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Feb 24, 2017 21:32
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NO MY EASY XP/STEEL ENDGAME MIDJOINS WHY
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Feb 24, 2017 21:40
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Now change it from 2 minutes to 0 minutes, allow people to join during post-game lobby, and eliminate the auto-launch timer (just make it launch when everyone hits READY) and you'll have a system that isn't a loving joke.
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Chomp8645 posted:Now change it from 2 minutes to 0 minutes, allow people to join during post-game lobby, and eliminate the auto-launch timer (just make it everyone readies up) and you'll have a system that isn't a loving joke. terrible, good, terrible respectively
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Chomp8645 posted:Now change it from 2 minutes to 0 minutes, allow people to join during post-game lobby, and eliminate the auto-launch timer (just make it launch when everyone hits READY) and you'll have a system that isn't a loving joke. And while we are at it remove gear.
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To touch back on an earlier discussion, against an exhausted opponent the best tool the Shugoki has is charge of the oni. What you need to do is mix it up with guard breaks. Sprint at someone and they have to make a choice between holding their ground to counter guardbreak or dodging to avoid the charge. The counter to this is rolling or dodging attacks, but neither of those can be done when out of stamina. Only problem is it can be awkward building up enough sprinting distance and you might just end up rolling into them like an idiot.
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Keegers posted:And while we are at it remove gear. I would actually be ok with this. The ideal scenario is that they make gear stats Cool and Good but that's lottery odds right there so just scraping it is much safer.
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Feb 24, 2017 21:56
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Why remove gear? A lot of people have sunk tonnes of time and effort into getting decent sets of gear. I've spent all this time since launch getting my Orochi to Prestige 3, and then I spent all the steel I earned (9000) on buying armour kits and weapon kits. It'd be a huge slap in the face if Ubisoft removed gear just because. Adjusting gear so it's not overpowered (like insta-revenge gears are) are acceptable. But everything else should stay as is.
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Loopoo posted:Why remove gear? A lot of people have sunk tonnes of time and effort into getting decent sets of gear. I've spent all this time since launch getting my Orochi to Prestige 3, and then I spent all the steel I earned (9000) on buying armour kits and weapon kits. Not to mention all the
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Loopoo posted:Why remove gear? A lot of people have sunk tonnes of time and effort into getting decent sets of gear. I've spent all this time since launch getting my Orochi to Prestige 3, and then I spent all the steel I earned (9000) on buying armour kits and weapon kits. You're right, it won't get removed, because people would freak the gently caress out after spending $$$ on it. It shouldn't have been put there in the first place, though. It's just a pathetic attempt at shoe-horning in some sort of grinding mechanic into the game.
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