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Ravenfood posted:3) Do you not build walls or what? Why do you have empty settlements at all? Expand less rapidly if you have to, but expansion isn't usually that beneficial for you if you can't secure the area. Yeah it was probably the quick expansion urge, thanks for your answers everybody  Some very impressive patch notes, too. quote:Reduced the accuracy of the Campaign AI assessment of player movement extents to improve game balance on lower difficulty settings. Is that the thing where enemy armies love to stay exactly one pixel out of your range?
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Tiler Kiwi posted:That and the whole "gain a blessing for winning a heroic victory" means you're more willing to fight a battle when the more prudent option for other factions would be to come back with an overwhelming advantage, and also that you don't lose the blessing for losing a fight, but running from an attack, means you'll want to go ahead and put up at least a token fight when outmatched, which is a very face-saving style of action as well. During the Let's Play they did they mentioned that Heroic Victory wins guarantee a blessing, but it's still possible to get a blessing for a lesser win. But yeah, they're fairly true to form. They have a clear path to confederation with penalties for civil war, no major territorial ambitions (not required to win and they provide fewer peasants), and their whole crusader thing is facilitated with decrees that eliminate attrition, meaning they can roll through the badlands or wherever and beat rear end freely. All pretty cool.
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Detailed changelist for spells and abilities here: https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/191508/patch-6-full-ability-balance-change-list/p1?new=1 Mostly good changes though some of them remain a little baffling. Also RIP Gobbo Shaman, yeesh. madmac fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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Feb 24, 2017 13:51
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-Soul-Eater: changed radius from 60m to map-wide. Reduced Miscast change debuff from +50% to +25%. Who has this ability?
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Mukip posted:-Soul-Eater: changed radius from 60m to map-wide. Reduced Miscast change debuff from +50% to +25%. Cygors. Took a bit of headscratching to figure out some of the old LL weapon changes, pretty much it's taking away the increased melee damage on Lords who do 80% AP damage and shifting it over to an AP buff (Or +Large for the Axe of Dargo) which is a net buff. In general most spells are cheaper with a handful getting cost increases, though some definitely seem overpriced to me still. Looking at you, Savage Dominion and Final Transmutation. And of course some spells like flipping Traitor Kin or Bray Scream aren't going to suddenly become viable because of a small price reduction. madmac fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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Southpaugh posted:Orion, The King In The Woods, has issued a proclamation throughout Athel loren denying his resemblance to Mel Gibson. Okay, that's kinda funny. And now I'm imagining a bunch of tree-huggers going "who's Mel Gibson?" I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.
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Ze Pollack posted:The elves figure it's okay to teach this to humans because they don't have the time to achieve either truly PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWER or becoming anywhere near as nuts as an elf before their short-rear end lifespan kills them. I imagine a lot of it also has to do with the fact that the last human to get unfettered access to elf magic was Nagash, and he invented a school of sorcery the elves couldn't even imagine, still don't understand, and that has repeatedly threatened all of creation. I remember Teclis's exact words were 'We will teach them enough to save themselves, but nothing that can blow up the world.'
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Lassitude posted:That plus AI recruitment changes should make for a more enjoyable experience overall I think. Less chasing the AI on both the campaign and battle maps hopefully. Also this: quote:Rule Change: In Campaign, If a faction loses a battle and the only surviving unit is their last general, the general is killed.
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Some other changes missing from the list: Ungrim Ironfist: +30 bonus vs. Large Helblaster Volley Gun: Doubled number of projectiles per volley from 9 to 18. Black Knights with Lances/Verek's Reavers: -100 cost Empire Spearmen (Shields): +2 melee defense Forest Goblin Spider Riders: -50 cost. -- Both Gelt and Kemmler have had a mp cost reduction. For some reason that change just hasn't been listed in the patch notes. Dwarf Warrior units also got a +25 cost increase, which seems to be missing. -- (about flame cannon) It might look like a nerf, but what it means in practice is that the Flame Cannon shots don't disperse their targets as much and thus further shots are more likely to be effective as well.
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Night10194 posted:I imagine a lot of it also has to do with the fact that the last human to get unfettered access to elf magic was Nagash, and he invented a school of sorcery the elves couldn't even imagine, still don't understand, and that has repeatedly threatened all of creation. To be fair, Nagash learned dark magic, not high magic. How do we guess that the elf campaigns will play? I think they should run like wood elves where Naggaroth/Ulthuan are all one-settlement provinces with max building slots, and high/dark elves should be able to capture each others settlements and colonize everywhere, but for campaign goals or special mechanics I dunno. Their win conditions will definitely involve annihilating each other. vintagepurple fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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vintagepurple posted:To be fair, Nagash learned dark magic, not high magic. Yeah, imagine how much worse things would've been if he hadn't had to settle for lovely off-brand Dark Elf sorcery.
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Another thing worth mentioning: GaryCA posted:Thanks for the question, yes that's definitely going to be in the upcoming patch but only for Bretonnian factions. This change was made primarily due to the makeup of BRT provinces, where we felt that Bretonnia could really be hampered by a lack of building slots. This is the tier 3 = walls thing people noticed. A bummer but understandable i guess. Oh also: quote:Changed Black Coach abilities into passives that will activate after 45, 90 and 135 seconds in melee, allowing them to stack. Tweaked values to balance their new cumulative effect. It may actually be good now?? Gejnor fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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I'm really looking forward to this patch, but the new factions are all so fun and interesting that I really hope the classic factions and LLs get some love at some point as well.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHxV-2gucLk the quest battle video is up edit: at ~1:30 one of the peasants yells they've got the runs bad 
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Well, is this the last big DLC/FLC sort of thing before the expansion? We're not getting any new armies at this point, I think, anyway. Maybe during the gap between the last bit of FLC/DLC for the Old World, and the next TWW title, they'll have the chance to focus on existing LLs, hopefully making more playable factions in the process.
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I really like that all the various Bret knight models have different heraldry, colors, etc.
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Gejnor posted:"Changed Black Coach abilities into passives that will activate after 45, 90 and 135 seconds in melee, allowing them to stack. Tweaked values to balance their new cumulative effect." It's always secretly been good     
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Night10194 posted:I really like that all the various Bret knight models have different heraldry, colors, etc. Same. I also like the dynamic with the Reliaque peasantry carrying around their hometown hero equivalent, like how some backwoods parody town would dwell on that one time their high school team went undefeated.
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Trujillo posted:It's always secretly been good Gimmiick buuilds!!!  Also i asked on the forums and that buff to coaches works like this: CA_Duck posted:The countdown doesn't reset out of melee, rather it just pauses and resumes when you engage again.
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"Increased cost for Raise Dead from 2 to 3. Increased cost of Raise Dead upgraded to 4. Added a 5 second cooldown." If you can still use it 7 times this isn't a big enough change to make people stop spamming it. "Added max 3 uses to Arrow of Kurnous and increased range to 600m." 
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CA has given some youtubers access to the DLC and some Bretonnia gameplay is going up now! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUwWkXBZ9TQ
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Trujillo posted:"Increased cost for Raise Dead from 2 to 3. Increased cost of Raise Dead upgraded to 4. Added a 5 second cooldown." Yeah there should be a longer cool down, a higher winds cost, or a lower limit on how many you can summon. It's really whack now. I don't get why they nerfed sneaky stabbing to a one unit effect. It'll do the same thing that happened to flaming sword of rhuin: no one fuckin uses it anymore. Trujillo posted:It's always secretly been good Did those builds work before zombie spam though
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Yeah, greenskins need those big aoe buffs. With their low leadership they're supposed to be like shock troops but now they've lost a lot of their punch.Ammanas posted:Did those builds work before zombie spam though Only thought of it after raise dead became what it is. I think I tried it without the zombies but I don't remember how it went, stopped using the build a few months ago. You could ditch one of the coaches and take 7 zombies instead and ditch raise dead and it would probably work even better since you'd be saving your winds. It's tough to say how good bringing one or two black coaches now would be without knowing what they adjusted the buffs to but if they're close to what they were then they'd probably be really good in an attritious fight.
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I want to see an annoying mechanic like the MW2 Pope again. Maybe Finubar forcing diplomatic resolutions? Or the Council of Thirteen doing sneaky poo poo.
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Dandywalken posted:Same. I also like the dynamic with the Reliaque peasantry carrying around their hometown hero equivalent, like how some backwoods parody town would dwell on that one time their high school team went undefeated. My town would only have the option of carrying around Jonathan Frakes or one of The Mills Brothers.
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Pump it up! Do it! posted:CA has given some youtubers access to the DLC and some Bretonnia gameplay is going up now! I'm glad we're just gonna have 50 factions of eight actual factions by the end of this run and not, you know, all the dwarf mini factions in the dwarf button
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Mukip posted:
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Gamerofthegame posted:I'm glad we're just gonna have 50 factions of eight actual factions by the end of this run They divide it by continent actually. During the CA livestreams, when they went to start a new campaign, they now first had to select the Old World to bring up all the factions you see at the start of the video you replied to.
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:RIP chaos warriors Yeah, this is awesome yet terrifying. My black orcs are going to melt! Definitely will be fun to use though.
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Thanks for the advice before, I'll give Vampire Counts a go. I had a quick try yesterday but I feel like after I killed off the other vampires I went too heavy into conquering humans right away and overextended myself. Re: Lords, Vlad looks like a great choice, but it looks like he'll be part of the separate von Carstein faction after the patch? Regardless, does Vlad work well when built for personal combat and tearing through enemies, because that would be awesome.
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Dr Snofeld posted:Thanks for the advice before, I'll give Vampire Counts a go. I had a quick try yesterday but I feel like after I killed off the other vampires I went too heavy into conquering humans right away and overextended myself. You'd have to actively try to make Vlad NOT work well He's totally usable as a fighter.
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Dr Snofeld posted:Thanks for the advice before, I'll give Vampire Counts a go. I had a quick try yesterday but I feel like after I killed off the other vampires I went too heavy into conquering humans right away and overextended myself. Also, for the Brets: it looks like they lose chivalry each and every time they use Ambush stance. That's loving hilarious.
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Vlad is a disgustingly good tank who like all the VC lords can take raise dead. VC are a bit dependent on Mannfred right now though since he's their best way to generate more winds. e:this applies to multi in campaign they're all beasts and their heroes can get arcane conduit wiegieman fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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Trujillo posted:It's always secretly been good all your shootings be drive-bys.
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Panfilo posted:What's the K/D ratio to get a heroic victory again? You won't actually have to get a heroic victory as Bret to get the blessing of the lady - any win has a random chance to give it to you. Heroic victories just guarantee you'll get it.
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Dandywalken posted:You'd have to actively try to make Vlad NOT work well I kinda want a mod that allows you to take Vlad as faction leader for the Empire.
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The Lone Badger posted:I kinda want a mod that allows you to take Vlad as faction leader for the Empire. Somebody said earlier that when an empire province gets vassalized they should get the vampiric influence modifier, but I have no idea if that's possible.
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