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SpaceClown
Feb 13, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Racing sims are the most skillful games.

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CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



I saw there were like 120 new posts in this thread and thought maybe a new branch of conversation had opened up, but was disappointed to see that most of the new posts were RTS fans loudly counting matchsticks.

Space Crabs
Mar 10, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

CaptainSarcastic posted:

I saw there were like 120 new posts in this thread and thought maybe a new branch of conversation had opened up, but was disappointed to see that most of the new posts were RTS fans loudly counting matchsticks.

Which once again brings us back to RTS being stupid poo poo for idiots that are unable to get that "Badass Feeling" from anything other than a spreadsheet with a GUI laid over it.

Space Crabs
Mar 10, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Here is 40,000 words on why my glorified cellphone game is the pinnacle of gaming, just in case the first 30,000 words didn't convince you.

Are you ready to argue over every single molecule of your argument, breaking this poo poo down with a microscope in a never ending autism fueled rage debate on why my lovely taste in gaming is actually correct? What do you mean this reflects back on the RTS games I'm valiantly defending?

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Rimworld is way better than Dwarf Fortress.

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

food court bailiff posted:

Rimworld is way better than Dwarf Fortress.

Again people are confusing unpopular opinions with objective facts.

To add on to this, early access rules and I don't get why people complain about it so much unless they somehow don't know what they're getting in to despite Steam putting a giant warning on all of them. I got Ark on sale for $20 and played it for about 80 hours. That's a hell of a lot more than most $30+ completed games I've bought. I don't really care that it will never be finished or get optimized because I got my money's worth and I'll probably never touch it again. Games like Rimworld and 20XX are great because when I get bored of them I just play something else for a couple months and when I get the urge to pick them up again now they have a bunch of new features to mess around with. Hell even sometimes you get a miracle like Broforce that actually makes it to a final release. Basically just play the poo poo with really good reviews.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Stale Saltines posted:

Again people are confusing unpopular opinions with objective facts.

To add on to this, early access rules and I don't get why people complain about it so much unless they somehow don't know what they're getting in to despite Steam putting a giant warning on all of them. I got Ark on sale for $20 and played it for about 80 hours. That's a hell of a lot more than most $30+ completed games I've bought. I don't really care that it will never be finished or get optimized because I got my money's worth and I'll probably never touch it again. Games like Rimworld and 20XX are great because when I get bored of them I just play something else for a couple months and when I get the urge to pick them up again now they have a bunch of new features to mess around with. Hell even sometimes you get a miracle like Broforce that actually makes it to a final release. Basically just play the poo poo with really good reviews.

20XX is goddamn great and it's a shame that the weird spriting style looks so awkward in screenshots - the game looks fine in motion.

The Switch is going to do really, really well.

Universe Master
Jun 20, 2005

Darn Fine Pie

I don't care about Steam putting out loads of lovely games and asset flips because I don't buy them or even see them much on my store page.

Das Butterbrot
Dec 2, 2005
Lecker.

SpaceClown posted:

Racing sims are the most skillful games.

combat flight sims (and by that i dont mean shitthunder)

Stranger Danger Ranger
Jul 21, 2007
There are lizards coming out of my tv.
what the hell is this supercorn game people won't stop arguing about??

JIZZ DENOUEMENT
Oct 3, 2012

STRIKE!

Stranger Danger Ranger posted:

what the hell is this supercorn game people won't stop arguing about??

Supreme Commander. It's apparently the superior RTS to Starcraft. Let's take a look!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQVTU6cxd98

Some high-octane action in Supreme Commander. That's for sure.

Edit: The grandmaster cup!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKCNkRSiEXQ

JIZZ DENOUEMENT fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Feb 25, 2017

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Stranger Danger Ranger posted:

what the hell is this supercorn game people won't stop arguing about??

ITs pretty fun but ultimately it's for noobs. Hth

Space Crabs
Mar 10, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Skeleton Necromancers and everyone proud of playing them in Diablo 2, like you are all some kind of legendary geniuses for figuring out that you can just keep adding points to skeletons, are dumb and they had no utility past taking casuals through the normal game once.

:words: but if you min max :words: :words: :words: the right runes :words: :words: then skelemancers :words:

You and your builds are the worst in what is one of the greatest games of all time.

Homestar Runner
Oct 9, 2012

This is the best videogame
I have ever played!
The Baldur's Gate / Icewind Dale series are both far superior in gameplay, character development and atmosphere to anything named Elder Scrolls / Witcher / Dragon Age etc

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Space Crabs posted:

Skeleton Necromancers and everyone proud of playing them in Diablo 2, like you are all some kind of legendary geniuses for figuring out that you can just keep adding points to skeletons, are dumb and they had no utility past taking casuals through the normal game once.

:words: but if you min max :words: :words: :words: the right runes :words: :words: then skelemancers :words:

You and your builds are the worst in what is one of the greatest games of all time.

dont skeleton shame

Space Crabs
Mar 10, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
The Binding of Isaac is a bullet hell game for literal children and the only reason people love it so much is because it is so easy.

When comparing it to games that actually take skill and reflexes like Enter The Gungeon everyone always mentions how Isaac swamps you in overpowered upgrades making almost all of your runs successful, which appeals to the game's fans since it's basically a reward response generator where you just turn on the game and prepare to be told you are an amazing player because of the amazing run you just did, conveniently ignoring that it's so simple a literal infant could beat it by mashing the controller.

Good job player!!! Would you like to do a good job again?!? And again!?!? Such a good player!

lazorexplosion
Mar 19, 2016

Space Crabs posted:

Skeleton Necromancers and everyone proud of playing them in Diablo 2, like you are all some kind of legendary geniuses for figuring out that you can just keep adding points to skeletons, are dumb and they had no utility past taking casuals through the normal game once.

:words: but if you min max :words: :words: :words: the right runes :words: :words: then skelemancers :words:

You and your builds are the worst in what is one of the greatest games of all time.

Hey. Figuring out a build for Necromancers that isn't complete trash is an achievement.

Mahuum Aqoha
Jan 15, 2004

SHEPARD!
Do it for the universe!
Fun Shoe
This thread is making me want to replay Fallout 4.

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
Here's a weird video game opinion: Arena dueling in Diablo2 1.09 in leagues like 76 Legit was an incredible emergent gameplay element, and incredibly fun - and deserves to be its own genre.

Ultima Online T2A era instahit rules dueling was then, and remains to this day, the best 1v1 dueling in any game. Not just for skill ceiling, but artistry. When I was playing a lot, I could ID a prominent player by their fighting style easily, even with a limited viable skill/spell pool.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

Space Crabs posted:

Skeleton Necromancers and everyone proud of playing them in Diablo 2, like you are all some kind of legendary geniuses for figuring out that you can just keep adding points to skeletons, are dumb and they had no utility past taking casuals through the normal game once.

:words: but if you min max :words: :words: :words: the right runes :words: :words: then skelemancers :words:

You and your builds are the worst in what is one of the greatest games of all time.

oh look somebody who quit before the 1.10 patch

SpaceClown
Feb 13, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Starcraft was a mistake. Its the Quake 3 of RTS

lazorexplosion
Mar 19, 2016

Diablo 2 has only one good build, the fire and ice sorceress. Everything else has some combination of requires way too much gear to deal adequate damage, can't deal with immunities, bad mobility, bad survival, general awkwardness to actually use etc. Play Diablo 2 once as a sorceress and then shelve it forever because nothing else will be remotely as good without a ton of grinding.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

SpaceClown posted:

Starcraft was a mistake. Its the Quake 3 of RTS

lmao

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Homestar Runner posted:

The Baldur's Gate / Icewind Dale series are both far superior in gameplay, character development and atmosphere to anything named Elder Scrolls / Witcher / Dragon Age etc

Sorry witcher doesnt fit with the trash you listed it with and its better than all infinity engine games although its only slightly better than pillars of eternity

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

lazorexplosion posted:

Diablo 2 has only one good build, the fire and ice sorceress. Everything else has some combination of requires way too much gear to deal adequate damage, can't deal with immunities, bad mobility, bad survival, general awkwardness to actually use etc. Play Diablo 2 once as a sorceress and then shelve it forever because nothing else will be remotely as good without a ton of grinding.

Hammerdin, Smite-a-din, a Zealot. :w00t:

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
if he says only sorceress had adequate mobility and doesn't want to grind he probably isn't counting classes that need an Enigma to function

on the other hand that doesn't explain the omission of FRENZYBARB

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
hosed up 1.09 Convict-a-din Fisting Hard, or 1.10 Psycho Shock-a-din blasting poo poo down with an epic SC Hammer. Or, how about -- consider this //////////// Fury Phaseblade CONCADIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (paladin specialist itt....)

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

if he says only sorceress had adequate mobility and doesn't want to grind he probably isn't counting classes that need an Enigma to function

on the other hand that doesn't explain the omission of FRENZYBARB

or Singin' Baba.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Low-Key unpopular Opinion:

Halo was/is a cancer on the FPS genre and specifically weapon limits//regenerating health shields just loving stonewalled game design for 5-10 years. The storyline looped back and forth between cool & trash so many times that even diehard fans concede it got stupid and bad, and despite being a game about fighting monsters in outer space, all the weapons are just purple//black versions of earth guns. Like, the needler is just a SMG etc... Afterwards every FPS game has needed vehicles and shields and it got to the point where I just couldnt tell shooters accept the Last of us Multi


A second unpopular opinion is that the Last of Us Multi is the most fun i have ever had playing a multiplayer game not made by blizzard, and i think it does group dynamics better than most team deathmatch games even come close to.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

lazorexplosion posted:

Diablo 2 has only one good build, the fire and ice sorceress. Everything else has some combination of requires way too much gear to deal adequate damage, can't deal with immunities, bad mobility, bad survival, general awkwardness to actually use etc. Play Diablo 2 once as a sorceress and then shelve it forever because nothing else will be remotely as good without a ton of grinding.

no, play MedianXL and enjoy all classes in power gaming glory

SpaceClown
Feb 13, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Diablo sucks.

lazorexplosion
Mar 19, 2016

Rutibex posted:

no, play MedianXL and enjoy all classes in power gaming glory

That mod was dope.

Stranger Danger Ranger
Jul 21, 2007
There are lizards coming out of my tv.

lazorexplosion posted:

Diablo 2 has only one good build, the fire and ice sorceress. Everything else has some combination of requires way too much gear to deal adequate damage, can't deal with immunities, bad mobility, bad survival, general awkwardness to actually use etc. Play Diablo 2 once as a sorceress and then shelve it forever because nothing else will be remotely as good without a ton of grinding.

and monk is the only worthwhile class in d3

Zorodius
Feb 11, 2007

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SUCK THE SHIT STRAIGHT OUT OF MY OWN ASSHOLE.

BUY IT.

Space Crabs posted:

Skeleton Necromancers and everyone proud of playing them in Diablo 2, like you are all some kind of legendary geniuses for figuring out that you can just keep adding points to skeletons, are dumb and they had no utility past taking casuals through the normal game once.

:words: but if you min max :words: :words: :words: the right runes :words: :words: then skelemancers :words:

You and your builds are the worst in what is one of the greatest games of all time.

they buffed skeletons, dude. Like 15 years ago

Space Crabs
Mar 10, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Zorodius posted:

they buffed skeletons, dude. Like 15 years ago

:words: but if you min max :words: :words: :words: the right runes :words: :words: then skelemancers :words: but 1.09c :qq: :qq: 1.10 :words: :qq:

SpaceClown
Feb 13, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
its me im the idiot who played a bad game for 15 years

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

Echoing what someone else said, all of the hats, special items, and crafting horseshit made TF2 really dumb, I just want loving vanilla CTF in my shooters and poo poo god drat it

TheMostFrench
Jul 12, 2009

Stop for me, it's the claw!



Starcraft was great when I was a child because oh wow the human buildings can fly and the alien guys can bury themselves underground and surprise people! Adult me just likes the music.

e: oh we've moved onto diablo now....uhhh unpopular opinions uhhh.... it was fun like 10 years ago and there was nothing about Diablo 3 that looks interesting besides updated graphics and effects.

The cosmetic/fashion aspect of modern games is more enjoyable than the copy pasted gameplay of every AAA cover shooter/fantasy game/whatever, it doesn't matter how poo poo I am or how average the gameplay is when I look better than all of my e-friends.

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Biscuit Hider
Red Alert 2 is the greatest RTS of all time

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Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Red alert 2 is so good its ridiculous. Yuris revenge is good too. Fun multiplayer even though yuri was pretty broken iirc. Of cpurse i was 11 and didn't care about metas and being good

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