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Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

deadgoon posted:

bernie sanders was a joke candidate who had no chance of winning and even if he had miraculously won he would not have been able to govern

hillary 2020 imo

Of all the possible candidates, she'll have the most experience in running for the office of the President. And don't we want the most experienced candidate?

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logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
agreed, time for Ellen DeGeneres 2020

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

logikv9 posted:

agreed, time for Ellen DeGeneres 2020

where does ellen stand on weed and net neutrality

these are the only issues i care about tbh

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
i'm against weed and i think they should turn off the internet

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
I like weed but I think the internet was a mistake

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
Actually correction: I think humans were a mistake

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

logikv9 posted:

Actually correction: I think humans were a mistake

it's nice to meet another creationist on c-spam

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Rastor posted:

I've said this before, but when Ellison announced his candidacy he asked supporters to contact DNC members and (politely) express support.

It was some time later that he made the PLEASE, STOP CALLING announcement.

be enthusiastic but not TOO enthusiastic, you might start caring about politics

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007


This piece of poo poo is the lynchpin to Hillary 2020, so he puts out this bullshit when it's just average Democrats not even from the Sanders wing calling his Trump loving rear end out. Gotta muddy those waters.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

got any sevens posted:

There was that fun bit yesterday when Perez admitted Hillary's folks had rigged the primary, then a few hours later someone behind the scenes ordered him to retract that.

that was a while ago

a week or two, I think

deadgoon posted:

bernie sanders was a joke candidate who had no chance of winning and even if he had miraculously won he would not have been able to govern

hillary 2020 imo

he probably had some chance of winning, but he doesn't have a very good record for getting stuff he wants past Congress

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Spry centrism

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Nonsense posted:

This piece of poo poo is the lynchpin to Hillary 2020, so he puts out this bullshit when it's just average Democrats not even from the Sanders wing calling his Trump loving rear end out. Gotta muddy those waters.
If anything like a serious primary challenge came his way, he's pull an Arlen Specter and flip parties.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


I do have to respect that a standing Senator challenged people "Vote me out. Vote me out!"

The other 99 Senators don't have remotely the gonads to do that

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

SKULL.GIF posted:

I do have to respect that a standing Senator challenged people "Vote me out. Vote me out!"

The other 99 Senators don't have remotely the gonads to do that

I think that's a charitable interpretation. I think instead it was the culmination of a hissy fit he threw because he's tired of democratic activists calling him out for his positions. I imagine he regrets voicing that.

Literally A Dabus
Feb 24, 2017

U🚫🔩↔👸:spain:➖S

deadgoon posted:

bernie sanders was a joke candidate who had no chance of winning and even if he had miraculously won he would not have been able to govern

hillary 2020 imo

I'm not entirely sure. To be biggest, I don't know of antenna was ready for a socialist candidate in 2018. As much as it hurt, Trump winking against a centrist Democrat was probably the greatest Bonn that the Democrats and indeed America could use top advance tuatara more aggressive policies.

Philip Rivers
Mar 15, 2010

The Muppets On PCP posted:

drive like jehmu

this was a good post

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

got any sevens posted:

There was that fun bit yesterday when Perez admitted Hillary's folks had rigged the primary, then a few hours later someone behind the scenes ordered him to retract that.

Lol "ordered him to retract". Your version of the Dem Party is a lot more interesting than real life

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/climatecentral/status/834305993651716096

How could you possibly run on putting coal workers out of work?!!?!!?

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

https://twitter.com/climatecentral/status/834305993651716096

How could you possibly run on putting coal workers out of work?!!?!!?

Free Market Capitalism wins again, socilistards

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
Hail Satan?

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

logikv9 posted:

Actually correction: I think humans were a mistake

Be the change you want to see in the world

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
My mom today asked me if I knew about "that guy that's the mayor from South Bend, Indiana -- he's gay" because she wants him to be the next DNC chair.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Concerned Citizen posted:

Lol "ordered him to retract". Your version of the Dem Party is a lot more interesting than real life
"whined constantly and pointing to the donors that no longer exist" has effectively the same result

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
The donors definitely still exist, lol.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

They're donating to Republicans instead now :buddy:

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

Rand alPaul posted:

My mom today asked me if I knew about "that guy that's the mayor from South Bend, Indiana -- he's gay" because she wants him to be the next DNC chair.

everything's coming up buttigieg

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

They're donating to Republicans instead now :buddy:

Who is

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

goldman-sachs in particular

though it isn't "switching" as much as it is dropping them from the gravy teat while keeping the conservatives on

Philip Rivers
Mar 15, 2010

boy these addy are so good im high af haha

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

People who want poo poo done

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
yes yes yes BUTTIGIEG

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

goldman-sachs in particular

though it isn't "switching" as much as it is dropping them from the gravy teat while keeping the conservatives on

despite their reputation, goldman isn't really a major dem donor. haim saban alone donated more in 2016 to just Hillary than the entirety of Goldman Sachs donated to all candidates of both parties combined. And I don't really see evidence that they're going to change their giving patterns.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

wall st spends billions lobbying congress and it's had a giant return on investment

goldman sachs alone gave over 700k to clinton into her personal bank account for 3 speeches shortly before she ran for president lol

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Aurubin posted:

Reading Weigel's piece this evening about the DNC race stoked those angry embers in my soul, with a quotation about a Perez backer being dismissive and annoyed about being lobbied by Ellison/Bernie supporters.

While the answer is obviously authoritarian elitism, it's still hard for me to reconcile the idea of getting into electoral politics and being angry that you have an active and engaged base. Kick these fuckers out.
their constituents are their donors not the rube voters

Penisaurus Sex
Feb 3, 2009

asdfghjklpoiuyt
At this point, you need to take honest stock of what the Democratic party is actually for.

It isn't for winning elections or putting forth pro labor policy. It isn't for world peace. It's for social equality -- which is awesome and a wonderful thing -- in absence of economic equality.

The thing that Democrats do best is grift millions upon millions of dollars from rich people who expect them to do anything at all instead of vacillate weakly and let Republicans walk all over them.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
Democrats are garbage qtiyd

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

comedyblissoption posted:

their constituents are their donors not the rube voters

Many of them ARE the donors.

Penisaurus Sex
Feb 3, 2009

asdfghjklpoiuyt

Matt Zerella posted:

Democrats are garbage qtiyd

Every time I wake up and Joe Manchin is still my senator I sigh and feel really ashamed.

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


Penisaurus Sex posted:

Every time I wake up and Joe Manchin is still my senator I sigh and feel really ashamed.

who is worse, manchin or feinstein

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Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.

deadgoon posted:

where does ellen stand on weed and net neutrality

these are the only issues i care about tbh

Me, I only care about "gamer issues."

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