NBA Playoffs 2016-17 G/V: The Playoffs Are A Band Metaphor Now

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Redgrendel2001: Sep 1, 2006; you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

Artic Puma posted:

What? I'm pretty sure Iguodala is the least woke person in the NBA. (Non Spencer Hawes category).

Someone cue up Iggy owning Fox News.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 05:28

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# ? May 21, 2024 05:47

Femur: Jan 10, 2004; I REALLY NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP

EvanTH posted:

Basically sounds to me like calling Shaq a money-motivated sell-out clown with no self-respect.

This is bullshit, shaq is an entertainer, and the segment is inherently mean, like all highlight reels, there is always a victim. Dressing up, being silly is part of his job, the league needs kids to get invested for the future also?

No doubt shaq is a child, he is extremely insecure, so I get how he takes things. He could be a more well rounded person, but he became one of the greatest center of all time instead, and he's not commiting crimes. He also gives money away to fam. He was also run out of town by Kobe and the Lakers, who blitz us with the narrative that he was fat and lazy, and somehow his career could have be more than taking 3 different team to the NBA finals, humbling GOAT, MJ. He also pioneered social media for us, but we're too cool now or whatever. Dokmo had it right, we shaped him, can't abandon our baby now!

KD is the thirsty one, the calling out Cuban last year, and this javale thing makes it clear.

A strategy named after shaq was prevalent enough to make the NBA change the rules just last year. That is real legacy KD. We all die in the dirt, kids learn that eventually too, man what an rear end in a top hat.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 05:32

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

Shaq, like his final peak evolution Dwight, is a pedo

# ? Feb 25, 2017 05:36

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

MOVIE MAJICK posted:

PJ Tucker played 28 minutes in he debut, got 10 pts and 10 rebounds, and looked like he would have killed a man for the basketball. I love this man. Ibaka was great in his debut as well. Both of them played as if they were on the team for the whole season already.

PJ is great. Like imagine if Derek Fisher could play four positions.

I don't blame Watson for playing him instead of Bender.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 05:36

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

This is about how I feel

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/24/shaquille-oneals-violation-of-javale-mcgee-is-much-deeper-than-basketball/

Once Shaq stopped making fun of the actions and just started hammering his intelligence is where I have a problem with it.

Edit: so little respect for Fred it's amazing.

https://twitter.com/CodyWesterlund/status/835347873365639168

Dexo fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Feb 25, 2017

# ? Feb 25, 2017 05:37

MOVIE MAJICK: Jan 4, 2012; by Pragmatica

Holy poo poo I havnt looked at the standings carefully since beginning of January. Where did the Heat come from and where did the bucks and Charlotte go?

# ? Feb 25, 2017 05:45

Probably Magic: Oct 9, 2012; Looking cute, feeling cute.

Dexo posted:

Edit: so little respect for Fred it's amazing.

https://twitter.com/CodyWesterlund/status/835347873365639168

It's weird, because Hoiberg's entire reputation in college was crafting a 3-pointer team.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 05:46

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

MOVIE MAJICK posted:

Holy poo poo I havnt looked at the standings carefully since beginning of January. Where did the Heat come from and where did the bucks and Charlotte go?

at the kings having a better record than the Timberwolves

# ? Feb 25, 2017 05:49

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn55UqfP4ew

# ? Feb 25, 2017 05:55

Away all Goats: Jul 5, 2005; Goose's rebellion

MOVIE MAJICK posted:

PJ Tucker played 28 minutes in he debut, got 10 pts and 10 rebounds, and looked like he would have killed a man for the basketball. I love this man. Ibaka was great in his debut as well. Both of them played as if they were on the team for the whole season already.

Apparently Tucker didn't even get any sleep. Flew across the country and basically suited up and played.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 05:56

Niwrad: Jul 1, 2008

Dexo posted:

This is about how I feel

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/24/shaquille-oneals-violation-of-javale-mcgee-is-much-deeper-than-basketball/

Once Shaq stopped making fun of the actions and just started hammering his intelligence is where I have a problem with it.

Edit: so little respect for Fred it's amazing.

https://twitter.com/CodyWesterlund/status/835347873365639168

This is amazing.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 05:59

MOVIE MAJICK: Jan 4, 2012; by Pragmatica

https://twitter.com/celtics/status/835340996955127808

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:02

BWV: Feb 24, 2005

ball

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:03

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Dexo posted:

This is about how I feel

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/24/shaquille-oneals-violation-of-javale-mcgee-is-much-deeper-than-basketball/

Here's the problem I have with that. JaVale called him a coon...three years ago? Four years ago? That was back when Shaq was still just giving him poo poo for doing stupid crap on the court on a weekly basis. So no, it wasn't for insulting JaVale's intelligence, but you can believe that once he threw that insult out that he pretty much gave Shaq a reason to treat him like poo poo for the rest of his career.

I can imagine that if you're a black man - no matter how successful you are - and someone calls you a coon and compares you to someone in blackface you're not going to just let that poo poo go.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:05

wandler20: Nov 13, 2002; How many Championships?

Metapod posted:

russ just had a 17 point 18 rebound 17 assist game but you want to hear a stat that will really blow your mind roberson outscored him with 19 points

I wish I could've watched that game. Following it on Twitter it sounded amazing. Taj and Doug getting huge ovations when they checked in. Roberson was like 8 for 9 and 3 for 3 on 3's. Amazing.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:05

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

BWV posted:

ball

Maybe what Boston needed in the 4th quarter was hella screens to take the pressure off the guards.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:06

Strasburgs UCL: Jul 28, 2009; Hang in there little buddy

Hey guys I know this is absolutely stunning news but Ian Mahinmi is hurt again. He has played a total of 67 minutes for the Wizards this year.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:07

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

JoeCL posted:

Hey guys I know this is absolutely stunning news but Ian Mahinmi is hurt again. He has played a total of 67 minutes for the Wizards this year.

Only three and a half years left on that contract too.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:08

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Crazy Ted posted:

Here's the problem I have with that. JaVale called him a coon...three years ago? Four years ago? That was back when Shaq was still just giving him poo poo for doing stupid crap on the court on a weekly basis. So no, it wasn't for insulting JaVale's intelligence, but you can believe that once he threw that insult out that he pretty much gave Shaq a reason to treat him like poo poo for the rest of his career.

I can imagine that if you're a black man - no matter how successful you are - and someone calls you a coon and compares you to someone in blackface you're not going to just let that poo poo go.

The Javale minstrel tweet was from earlier this year not years ago.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:09

BWV: Feb 24, 2005

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# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:10

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Dexo posted:

The Javale minstrel tweet was from earlier this year not years ago.

Yes, but I looked it up and the Coon insult was from 2013. He started this quite a while ago. Maybe if you don't want a national TV personality to give you poo poo, don't refer to him with racial slurs.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:11

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Almost like Shaq has been insulting dude personally for longer than that.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:13

EvanTH: Apr 24, 2004; i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

Femur posted:

This is bullshit, shaq is an entertainer, and the segment is inherently mean, like all highlight reels, there is always a victim. Dressing up, being silly is part of his job, the league needs kids to get invested for the future also?

No doubt shaq is a child, he is extremely insecure, so I get how he takes things. He could be a more well rounded person, but he became one of the greatest center of all time instead, and he's not commiting crimes. He also gives money away to fam. He was also run out of town by Kobe and the Lakers, who blitz us with the narrative that he was fat and lazy, and somehow his career could have be more than taking 3 different team to the NBA finals, humbling GOAT, MJ. He also pioneered social media for us, but we're too cool now or whatever. Dokmo had it right, we shaped him, can't abandon our baby now!

KD is the thirsty one, the calling out Cuban last year, and this javale thing makes it clear.

A strategy named after shaq was prevalent enough to make the NBA change the rules just last year. That is real legacy KD. We all die in the dirt, kids learn that eventually too, man what an rear end in a top hat.

Ooo there's a lot of interesting stuff in here.

-- I don't think anyone in this forum is gonna argue that Peak Shaq wasn't one of the greatest centers of all time, that's completely true. JaVale will never be in the same realm of player, it's distinct but somewhat irrelevant to the current issue?
-- the "he donates money" thing never feels quite right to me as a character defense for the rich when the amount donated is such a small percentage of one's income that it doesn't make any appreciable difference in lifestyle whatsoever. Here's a classic Reddit thread from 2013ish where everyone is talking about what a classy and upstanding dude Aaron Hernandez is because he gave part of his check to the office charity: https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/yxrvb/aaron_hernandez_gives_50k_of_his_new_extension_to/
-- You use "us" twice in there. Who's 'us' and what do you mean "pioneered social media"?
-- "he's not committing crimes" is very lawyerly, and I mean that in the way that highlights what people don't like about lawyers. There's a jillion million billion things you can do in this life which are both perfectly legal yet extremely hosed up and/or cruel. There's also a ton of poo poo (I'm thinkin' drug laws) that is highly illegal morally harmless. Morality and legality don't align 1:1 and you'd honestly have to be a very odd American to possess an internal moral system in which they do. Committing crimes isn't the issue, we're just talking about who's being a dick.
-- and with that said, Shaq arguably did commit some crimes, as covered with the seizure-beating and child-porn-planting addressed in posts in the last few pages. I don't think this has much direct bearing on this argument, it's just a sort of, I don't know, character witness type argument. Shaq's been an awful dude for a long time.

I don't really think of this as a broad political issue, more like a dust-up between two dudes (neither of whom I know personally) and I'm siding with the one I figure I like more. Dejan gave me one of the best descriptors of Shaq that I know of, Shaq's the dude in your classroom who tells an obvious unfunny joke then yells it two or three more times when nobody's laughing. He has a bullying instinct and JaVale called him on it. Very very entertaining.

Dexo posted:

The Javale minstrel tweet was from earlier this year not years ago.

Yes, but the TNT segment where JaVale called the segment "Shaqtin a Coon" was 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q69O7CiwL8
(this isn't a link to the PG leg injury I promise)

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:19

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Dexo posted:

Almost like Shaq has been insulting dude personally for longer than that.

Yeah...for acting like an idiot on the court. That's all that it was for at the time. I mean...the guy was so loving dumb when he was on the Wizards that there were multiple times where John Wall wanted to strangle him. He consistently did really dumb poo poo, and it got highlighted. It's really not that complex. He chose to react to it by referring to Shaq or Shaqtin a Fool or whatever with a term that's equivalent to Uncle Tom or friend of the family or Porch Monkey.

You say that about a Hall of Famer - and Hall of Fame athletes are incredibly competitive people by default - and they're not going to forget it.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:19

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

JoeCL posted:

Hey guys I know this is absolutely stunning news but Ian Mahinmi is hurt again. He has played a total of 67 minutes for the Wizards this year.

Reminder that he signed the exact same contract as Mozgov

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:20

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

I don't give a gently caress if Shaq is a hall of famer lmao. You consistently insult the intelligence of someone to the point where you dedicate an entire part of your schtick to one player. And keep poking over years I completely get why a player would react.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:29

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

At some point it's just piling on.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:31

leftist heap: Feb 28, 2013; Fun Shoe

Punkin Spunkin posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn55UqfP4ew

I can't believe this hasn't been empty quoted a hundred times.

"TV shows, funny movies... jokes. Just like normal people"

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:32

pubic works project: Jan 28, 2005; No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.

JoeCL posted:

Hey guys I know this is absolutely stunning news but Ian Mahinmi is hurt again. He has played a total of 67 minutes for the Wizards this year.

Lmao so glad the Pacers didn't re-sign that drat bum.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:33

EvanTH: Apr 24, 2004; i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

leftist heap posted:

I can't believe this hasn't been empty quoted a hundred times.

"TV shows, funny movies... jokes. Just like normal people"

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:35

leftist heap: Feb 28, 2013; Fun Shoe

MOVIE MAJICK posted:

Holy poo poo I havnt looked at the standings carefully since beginning of January. Where did the Heat come from and where did the bucks and Charlotte go?

The Heat have a star player.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:36

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

leftist heap posted:

The Heat have a star player.

And his name is Dion Waiters.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:36

Doltos: Dec 28, 2005; 🤌🤌🤌

Dexo posted:

I don't give a gently caress if Shaq is a hall of famer lmao. You consistently insult the intelligence of someone to the point where you dedicate an entire part of your schtick to one player. And keep poking over years I completely get why a player would react.

Yeah like people in SAS never dogpile or insult someones intelligence you hypocrite

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:37

leftist heap: Feb 28, 2013; Fun Shoe

EvanTH posted:

After a noticeable, but not entirely abnormal amount of deliberation on this post

Heh.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:37

EvanTH: Apr 24, 2004; i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

Doltos posted:

Yeah like people in SAS never dogpile or insult someones intelligence you hypocrite

We roast people on national TV?

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:38

Metapod: Mar 18, 2012

leftist heap posted:

The Heat have a star player.

Crazy Ted posted:

And his name is Dion Waiters.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 06:38

CharlestheHammer: Jun 26, 2011; YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!