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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Crowsbeak posted:

They have ALWAYS been trying to say the Nazis were really the left. This is a return to form.
It's outflanking the alt-right from the right, basically, at least rhetorically. It's dishonest but that's politics.

It doesn't do much good to attack them as *too far right* however it can be more effective when framed as "we don't want any radical leftist socialists in our party" :smug:

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
In a way, you can make a case that the Democrats have done this to the socialist left, outflanking it with identity politics and the like.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Wikkheiser posted:

In a way, you can make a case that the Democrats have done this to the socialist left, outflanking it with identity politics and the like.

Well liberals realized the best way to shut up socialists is to claim they were racists. As Hillary said "If we reformed Wall Street today would that end racism"?


There is this wonderful song by an Anrarchist on youtube that someone explains my thoughts on this.

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuuU6-eLRd0

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

https://twitter.com/olivianuzzi/status/835361524298485761

The Brown Menace
Dec 24, 2010

Now comes in all colors.



which is more soft, living off inheritance money (spencer) or alimony (cernovich)

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Wikkheiser posted:

In a way, you can make a case that the Democrats have done this to the socialist left, outflanking it with identity politics and the like.

Except Democrats are explicitly anti-Left and don't pretend that they aren't all centrist as Hell.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Except Democrats are explicitly anti-Left and don't pretend that they aren't all centrist as Hell.

i need to meet your democrats. all of mine resist completely the idea that they are anything less than hardcore left, yet they cry about broken windows and ear punches.

A Pale Horse
Jul 29, 2007

Bud K ninja sword posted:

i need to meet your democrats. all of mine resist completely the idea that they are anything less than hardcore left, yet they cry about broken windows and ear punches.

Well from their perspective they are. America has no real tradition of leftism as it's understood in the rest of the world. Who's the most leftist American politician you can think of? Right now it's Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren and historically someone like Eugene Debbs or Huey Long? Socdem is extreme left in America so don't be surprised when American leftists are wary of putting on berets and hoisting AKs and storming the barricades.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

A Pale Horse posted:

Well from their perspective they are. America has no real tradition of leftism as it's understood in the rest of the world. Who's the most leftist American politician you can think of? Right now it's Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren and historically someone like Eugene Debbs or Huey Long? Socdem is extreme left in America so don't be surprised when American leftists are wary of putting on berets and hoisting AKs and storming the barricades.


Bud K ninja sword posted:

i need to meet your democrats. all of mine resist completely the idea that they are anything less than hardcore left, yet they cry about broken windows and ear punches.

The point is that liberals aren't claiming socialists are really right wing. The way they keep saying we can't have a "left wing tea party" makes it clear.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
I guess we'll see with the dnc chair race but i anticipate perez will handily win because we cant have berniebros bringing the party *cringe* left or anything.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

A Pale Horse posted:

Socdem is extreme left in America so don't be surprised when American leftists are wary of putting on berets and hoisting AKs and storming the barricades.

I'm sorry but where on this planet are leftists donning berets and storming barricades with AKs in the year 2017?

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich
Seriously the last people who did that I can think of were the Sandinistas and that was a decade before most of this forum was born.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

I'm sorry but where on this planet are leftists donning berets and storming barricades with AKs in the year 2017?

Rojava my dude.

Kilmers Elbow
Jun 15, 2012

Lastgirl posted:

what is this from?

should check out Human Condition with Tatsuya Nakadai

It's from a Twilight Zone episode called 'The Encounter'.

It's supposed to be a serious, soul-searching, post-war thingamajig - but then George jumps out of the window and it's unintentionally hilarious.

Kilmers Elbow has issued a correction as of 15:42 on Feb 25, 2017

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
what is it with the left association with being effeminate and weak? What you think i just hung up my spurs and gave away my guns? I'd be really curious to see the percentage of reformed conservatives that consider themselves hard-left now. I dont know what socdem is though Im not all hip and cool just :corsair: I just dont like people being dicks, dickless bull moose party.. er.. wait that sounds dumb.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich
https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/835259915136565248


lol a Dog the Bounty Hunter CPAC party

magnavox space odyssey
Jan 22, 2016

Bud K ninja sword posted:

what is it with the left association with being effeminate and weak? What you think i just hung up my spurs and gave away my guns? I'd be really curious to see the percentage of reformed conservatives that consider themselves hard-left now. I dont know what socdem is though Im not all hip and cool just :corsair: I just dont like people being dicks, dickless bull moose party.. er.. wait that sounds dumb.

socdem is a fancy way of saying social democracy which is a fancy way of saying "people for a welfare state who don't oppose capitalism"

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

magnavox space odyssey posted:

"people for a welfare state who don't oppose capitalism"

see and thats the drat problem with branding. people hear welfare and they are immediately poisoned on the idea from inception. they also thing farm subsidies and veterans benefits /= welfare though so :shrug:

thanks for the definition by the way

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Bud K ninja sword posted:

what is it with the left association with being effeminate and weak?

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!



I'm Socialist Bubbles.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

i am boris karloffs half shirt.

A Pale Horse
Jul 29, 2007

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

I'm sorry but where on this planet are leftists donning berets and storming barricades with AKs in the year 2017?

The PKK and YPG in Syria for starters, but the point was meant as an illustrative example of stereotypical leftist militia behavior not meant to be taken literally.

The_Politics_Man
Aug 25, 2015

everyone in alberta looks like that

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm9lfWTGmDY

Gavin McInnes was on Joe Rogan, and even Gavin thinks Milo crossed the line. Both make it clear that they like Milo, but both admit that he's a broken brained troll. The vibe was that of a wake. Milo's career is over.

The only media people in the OP who are defending Milo are Lauren Southern and Cernovich.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

sure it is :v:

Asgerd
May 6, 2012

I worked up a powerful loneliness in my massive bed, in the massive dark.
Grimey Drawer
Milo right now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRu_-9MBpd4

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
https://twitter.com/Anawnnemus/status/835764978837819392

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


who do we think the next alt right breakout star will be? how photogenic will they be?

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

Comrade Cheggorsky posted:

who do we think the next alt right breakout star will be? how photogenic will they be?

my money is on poopypie

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

the alt-left

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014


I'm just imagining these guys rioting and looting a starbucks and stuff and it's the most :3: thing

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

WOW it's almost as if IQ is tied to education or something!

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

tbf they are from alberta

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Darkman Fanpage posted:

WOW it's almost as if IQ is tied to education or something!

NNnnnooooo. No. Africans who learned how to read English last year must just be retarded.
:goonsay:

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

A Pale Horse posted:

Well from their perspective they are. America has no real tradition of leftism as it's understood in the rest of the world. Who's the most leftist American politician you can think of? Right now it's Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren and historically someone like Eugene Debbs or Huey Long? Socdem is extreme left in America so don't be surprised when American leftists are wary of putting on berets and hoisting AKs and storming the barricades.

The American left was blowing poo poo up on a weekly basis in the 1970s.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

NNnnnooooo. No. Africans who learned how to read English last year must just be retarded.
:goonsay:

thats what my friends on American Renaissance tell me :v:

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant


Grandma on the far right is going to gently caress some Nazi's poo poo up, and then she's going to walk away innocently.

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Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

Comrade Cheggorsky posted:

who do we think the next alt right breakout star will be? how photogenic will they be?

they're all unfuckables. milo's whole thing is get 'em young so they don't know any better, cernovich is convinced his semen-pheromones are magical, and spencers gone through two wives and has zero kids. performative masculinity is all these dudes have, so it's going to be another disposable dipshit. pewdiepie isn't doing anything, so yeah, it's probably him.

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