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Ace of Baes posted:I think maybe we can all agree to disagree and not poo poo on people who are Anti-gun or pro-gun? After all we all want to destroy Capitalism. *lord o' the rings music plays* You have my overwritten posts!
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Ruzihm posted:I'm sorry but this is the marxist leninists of america where we have to determine the party position on every single issue. PSL spies pls leave
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I didn't mean to poo poo on gun owners. I am more of the opinion that, if you want to make something this complicated better, it's going to take a multi-decade campaign to do it.
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SomeMathGuy posted:Well, hey, on the flip side in peaceful protests multiple Republican state legislators are proposing bullshit restrictions on public assembly (ostensibly to discourage "riots" and such). Does anyone have any ideas for how we could bring this up with our locals to try and organize opposition to such legislation? Petitions? Organized calling or office visits? Just keep peacefully protesting until they claim you should be held accountable for one or two people breaking a couple things at the protest and seize your home or charge you with a felony, because that is all the left wants to do so far Personally I'm extremely skeptical of calling and office visits and petitions. Especially if the person you're calling or petitioning is a republican or centrist. Doorknob Slobber has issued a correction as of 21:53 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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logikv9 posted:THIS IS WHY BERNIE LOST because y'all can't follow instructions!!!!!!! TRUMP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OcldMG932o
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The greater the oppression, the greater the necessity for low friction between citizens and Goon Squads. Arm the proles. "Everything for Everyone, including guns." - Accretionist
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Doorknob Slobber posted:Personally I'm extremely skeptical of calling and office visits and petitions. Especially if the person you're calling or petitioning is a republican or centrist. representatives and senators have been unhooking their phone systems because they simply don't give a poo poo and they believe they'll never catch anything for it (and they're not entirely wrong)
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Doorknob Slobber posted:Personally I'm extremely skeptical of calling and office visits and petitions. Especially if the person you're calling or petitioning is a republican or centrist. I think that's a fair thing to be skeptical about. Legitimate question, then: do you think it's not worth bothering with since we're not equipped to address it directly? Or would it be more productive to try and address at the city level, i.e. try to organize pressure on mayors/city councils/etc. to speak out against such legislation and refuse to enforce?
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Personally we've been protesting outside our local state congressmans office every week and he refuses to see us. He also has canceled his last 3 town halls that he was going to hold because of "time constraints" and has suspended them indefinitely. He was using them to answer softball questions before we started going. Still 0% chance of voting him out.
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Feb 24, 2017 22:11
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More like Clown Halls, heh. Heh.
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Personally we've been protesting outside our local state congressmans office every week and he refuses to see us. He also has canceled his last 3 town halls that he was going to hold because of "time constraints" and has suspended them indefinitely. He was using them to answer softball questions before we started going. Yeah, protests feel like something that should give a show of force of an opinion, but so much of the voting populace is so checked out that they simply don't care or are actively hostile by default, returning to their sports team voting every election cycle I feel like some of the initiatives DSA has been getting behind are useful, going after precise real issues that can be presented in a way where the traditional partisanship thats been drilled into people is less effective so they might actually think about it
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Personally we've been protesting outside our local state congressmans office every week and he refuses to see us. He also has canceled his last 3 town halls that he was going to hold because of "time constraints" and has suspended them indefinitely. He was using them to answer softball questions before we started going. Next time he cancels you should set up a "people's town hall" nearby scheduled at the same time. Be loud & advertise. Make it clear that if he cancels you will have a place for people to voice their concerns to each other, since the one who is supposed to be leading... isn't.
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Ruzihm posted:Next time he cancels you should set up a "people's town hall" nearby scheduled at the same time. Be loud & advertise. Make it clear that if he cancels you will have a place for people to voice their concerns to each other, since the one who is supposed to be leading... isn't. I think this, plus protests where you generate enough noise to get in the news are probably the most effective tactic. Even democratic politicians are avoiding engaging their constituents right now. Where I live, even city councils and county and port commissions are starting to become censored. Public being kicked for 'executive' sessions while developers get to stay in the meeting. Videos recorded for the public to see are being edited with the public comment portions removed or changed. This doesn't begin and end with our national elected officials. People are taking Trump's behaviors and playing them out locally as well. A county commissioner here claimed his employees were lying to him and providing him 'alternate facts' and he was going to have someone get him the 'real' facts.
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Ruzihm posted:Next time he cancels you should set up a "people's town hall" nearby scheduled at the same time. Be loud & advertise. Make it clear that if he cancels you will have a place for people to voice their concerns to each other, since the one who is supposed to be leading... isn't. Bonus points:
Edit: if the people's town hall stays orderly it will look REALLY REALLY GOOD. Let people voice their opinions but if a lot of people show up be prepared to limit talking time so as to let others have their say. I mention "looking good" because if you are going to do more of these, people won't show up if they don't think it's worthwhile. Ruzihm has issued a correction as of 22:37 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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FL here, add to OP, etc.
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The discussion about diversity (a topic of fundamental importance) a few pages ago gave me an idea. Does anyone's DSA chapter have an outreach committee? My idea for the goals of such a community include: -Establishing connections with minority advocacy organizations, listening to their concerns, and facilitating the involvement of DSA members in their activities. -Organizing group volunteering efforts that have a direct impact in the lives of marginalized populations (shelters, food banks, naral, etc.) -Directing campaigns to expand the public presence of the DSA while promoting the ideals of socialism. (Maybe pamphleting?) -Conducting communication training sessions. And, hopefully, as a byproduct -Increasing the representation of minorities within of the DSA and promoting a culture of diversity and inclusion. I'm a new DSA member so such committees may already exist and I just don't know about them, in which case the problem might be that my chapter's committee isn't promoting themselves as well as they could be. A cursory google search didn't reveal much. Any input? sillyloquy has issued a correction as of 03:12 on Feb 25, 2017 |
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sillyloquy posted:The discussion about diversity (a topic of fundamental importance) a few pages ago gave me an idea. These are good ideas.
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Our new chapter has an outreach committee that plans to do those things. I think it is a pretty common idea, and a pretty good one!
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sillyloquy posted:The discussion about diversity (a topic of fundamental importance) a few pages ago gave me an idea. Keep coming up with stuff like this and they'll put you in charge of the chapter.  Our membership committee is just getting itself together but I think they will be including outreach in their realm with input from racial justice, soc-fem, and LGBT committees.One of my concerns has been with privacy and protecting especially our already vulnerable marginalized members but this new bullshit with threatening protestors has increased everyone else's awareness pretty quickly. I just started learning to use Slack dammit.
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The gun issue is a diversionary tactic employed by the elites and not worth expending political capital on. We should focus our efforts on enfranchising the population. In the process, a more democratic society would have civilized gun control laws at least according to current polling data. Edit: Bare arms or don't bare arms, but leave the gun debate to the liberals who love to chase squirrels while the country burns under fascist rule. Rated PG-34 has issued a correction as of 07:57 on Feb 25, 2017 |
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Someone in this thread, I think, had mentioned a resource folder containing copy and basic images for creating chapter flyers etc. Am I dreaming that? Because our chapter is looking to do some filtering at an upcoming event and wants to be able to provide a flyer with some city-specific inflection.
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salat brut posted:Someone in this thread, I think, had mentioned a resource folder containing copy and basic images for creating chapter flyers etc. Am I dreaming that? Because our chapter is looking to do some filtering at an upcoming event and wants to be able to provide a flyer with some city-specific inflection. That was me. Check #media in the rocket.chat or ask in the new members facebook group; it's not meant to be a public link, so no-one would have posted it in the thread 
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Speaking of RocketChat, are they still really behind on invites? Had applied like 2 weeks before the swap to Slack, never got a response. Applied using the new RocketChat link about a week ago, no response. 
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:That was me. Check #media in the rocket.chat or ask in the new members facebook group; it's not meant to be a public link, so no-one would have posted it in the thread Many thanks, comrade!
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I'm at new members school at Austin DSA and starting to think this chapter is a waste of time. The chairs have no interest in organizing direct action led by the DSA. They just want to funnel people into other groups and send members to events organized by other groups. I can't get a satisfactory answer on why I should be a member of this chapter rather than joining groups that work on the issues I care about. Very disappointing
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Does anyone know anything about the Cincinnati or Columbus chapters because I am pretty much in between and can go either way. Columbus seems more active I think? Which would make sense.
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Is there any benefit to joining DSA if there isn't a local chapter near me? I'm in no position financially or network-wise to start one anytime soon.
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Man, gently caress the DNC.
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oneforthevine posted:Is there any benefit to joining DSA if there isn't a local chapter near me? I'm in no position financially or network-wise to start one anytime soon. there's always a chance someone will start a chapter near you (they might be in OC talks RIGHT NOW!!) and you could get in on the ground floor as someone in the wretched sprawling wastes of tampa bay, this is my personal hope, though according to a few people in chat someone's trying
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Congrats on your next big membership wave, DSA.
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blue squares posted:I'm at new members school at Austin DSA and starting to think this chapter is a waste of time. The chairs have no interest in organizing direct action led by the DSA. They just want to funnel people into other groups and send members to events organized by other groups. I can't get a satisfactory answer on why I should be a member of this chapter rather than joining groups that work on the issues I care about. You could a: join both DSA and those groups b: entryism
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:You could Well I'm staying as a regular member, I'm just not going to run that committee I posted about. I should have specified.
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blue squares posted:Well I'm staying as a regular member, I'm just not going to run that committee I posted about. I should have specified. Remain a member of the DSA chapter because it sounds like anyone coming through will need something to do and you can get them to do it for you. If they want to be a clearing house then start poaching their members for your own purposes obviously
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The Crotch posted:Congrats on your next big membership wave, DSA. They gained like 3k twitter followers in the 4 hours since Perez won for whatever that's worth
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Internet Explorer posted:Speaking of RocketChat, are they still really behind on invites? Had applied like 2 weeks before the swap to Slack, never got a response. Applied using the new RocketChat link about a week ago, no response. I applied about a week ago, got no response, then applied again yesterday and was accepted instantly. 
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Ronald McReagan posted:I applied about a week ago, got no response, then applied again yesterday and was accepted instantly. What is the process for joining the Rocket.chat? Can I apply instantly after submitting my dues, or do I have to wait to receive a card, etc?
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