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Gear stats have kinda killed my casual interest in 4v4, especially with friends, none of us are going to spend money on microtransactions to speed up the process of getting the gear, so our 5 to 20 gearscore gets matched up against 108 guys, was demoralizing to be spawncamped by a peacekeeper with perma revenge, max attack/defense and every attack bleeds. Hoping for a no gear stat checkbox for 4vs4's in the future.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Gear stats have kinda killed my casual interest in 4v4, especially with friends, none of us are going to spend money on microtransactions to speed up the process of getting the gear, so our 5 to 20 gearscore gets matched up against 108 guys, was demoralizing to be spawncamped by a peacekeeper with perma revenge, max attack/defense and every attack bleeds. The Iron Rose posted:fun story - microtransactions don't actually speed up your gear acquisition. It's gated by level. Also the amount of steel gain is puny (like 20~40 a game?) compared to what's actually required plus scavenging, so it does encourage micro-transactions for min-maxing or leveling up gears.
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Aesis posted:You still get xp for 0 renown score as long as you don't AFK (haven't tested with AFK yet) so just don't spawn until you get sudden deathed. It does suck that game doesn't match you based on gear score atm though. Games go by pretty quick? Within like a week of playing I had like 20,000 steel just from doing most of the orders. This isn't even including the 10,000 you get from playing and beating the campaign.
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The Iron Rose posted:fun story - microtransactions don't actually speed up your gear acquisition. It's gated by level. I have been wondering how people in this thread have been buying reputation levels via microtransactions, because I couldn't find any way to do so. I play this game For Fashion and I'd love to have access to more than one character's second tier of items after a week of having fun.
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You can grab a 25% exp/loot boost that lasts up to a year for 15000 steel.
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The Iron Rose posted:Games go by pretty quick? Within like a week of playing I had like 20,000 steel just from doing most of the orders. This isn't even including the 10,000 you get from playing and beating the campaign.  I wonder how many games you played. I barely have time to play 3~4 games a day.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:You can grab a 25% exp/loot boost that lasts up to a year for 15000 steel. Y'still gotta, I dunno, play the game. What's the difference between an hour or so a day's worth of experience vs a 25% bonus? I've had the game since last sunday and I haven't even hit 20 on one character yet.
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Well 15k Steel for 1 year is cheap enough, but it's not worth the money if you don't really have time to play imo. Also xp/gear don't matter in 1v1/2v2 so I'd stick with those.
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Some of us are huge huge nerds though
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I want to learn one of the Samurai characters and i think i want it to be Nobushi, what are some tips that yall can give me? Coming from playing mainly Conq and Lawbringer
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:I want to learn one of the Samurai characters and i think i want it to be Nobushi, what are some tips that yall can give me? Coming from playing mainly Conq and Lawbringer Honor is for suckers and you should be the hugest rear end in a top hat you can possibly be with the Nobushi.
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Aesis posted:Well 15k Steel for 1 year is cheap enough, but it's not worth the money if you don't really have time to play imo. Also xp/gear don't matter in 1v1/2v2 so I'd stick with those. But what I'm saying is half of the game modes shouldn't be essentially locked out from being played because I don't grind up the gear to be competitive in them.
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Well i already don't engage in what most people would call honorable tactics anyway so i'm already halfway there.
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You guys need to look at the steel for champion status screen a little closer. 15k steel is one MONTH, one year is 65k. 
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:I want to learn one of the Samurai characters and i think i want it to be Nobushi, what are some tips that yall can give me? Coming from playing mainly Conq and Lawbringer
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FAUXTON posted:Is there some deeper timing aspect to regular ol' blocking (as in not parrying or deflecting) where snapping your guard into the right position as the blow is coming will make the enemy's weapon rebound a bit (like a mini parry almost) versus having the guard up ahead of time will just have the blow be blocked and your fighter kind of rolls with it? I think that what you're describing is an indication of whether or not your block interrupted their chain. I have definitely seen an opponent's stance reset after my Peacekeeper batted away their attack. I have also seen them continue a chain despite a block and that block animation is much different. I am not sure if timing has anything to do with it but it really feels like it when you're playing a neutral stance character and you have to actively block. Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Gear stats have kinda killed my casual interest in 4v4, especially with friends, none of us are going to spend money on microtransactions to speed up the process of getting the gear, so our 5 to 20 gearscore gets matched up against 108 guys I can live with the gear score thing but I really like getting gear in all games all the time. I would like to see a nerf for the revenge mode gain. It would be nice if there were gear score brackets for pvp matchmaking, which is a thing in Tom Clancey's The Division I think. On the upside, by the time you're eligible to start getting purple drops you shuold have like 20 of those loot chests saved up from playing through story mode.
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Outside revenge gain I don't have a problem with what gear can do. I like the level of customization at purple, I just kinda wish everyone started there.
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signalnoise posted:Outside revenge gain I don't have a problem with what gear can do. I like the level of customization at purple, I just kinda wish everyone started there. I feel the same. Also everyone forgets that Revenge mode is on a timer and if you just back off and play defensively it is worthless.
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signalnoise posted:Outside revenge gain I don't have a problem with what gear can do. I like the level of customization at purple, I just kinda wish everyone started there. It's the weirder stuff that messes with the game so hard. Maxed out debuff resist is goofy too, suddenly you can tech out of all sorts of poo poo you're not usually able to and now even guard breaks are removed from the pool of tools against you. hey welcome to the show! posted:Also everyone forgets that Revenge mode is on a timer and if you just back off and play defensively it is worthless. And then they block two hits and have it again.
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:I want to learn one of the Samurai characters and i think i want it to be Nobushi, what are some tips that yall can give me? Coming from playing mainly Conq and Lawbringer Tip 1: Realize that the fat man is best Tip 2: Break all the spines
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I'm going to get poo poo for this, but the thing that bothers me most about this game is the auto tracking. If you try to guard break, it should happen dead ahead of you. If someone is dodging to the side, almost turning at a 90 degree angle to follow up, or sliding like 10 feet to guard break, shouldn't be things. I think it's that auto tracking that makes characters like Warden annoying for people to fight (and easy for me to exploit), or makes battles against Conqs and Warlords into a slog. I'm probably bitching because I'm too used to Soulsborne, and now Nioh (which is worse as far as auto tracking goes), but it seems absurd for a game where fights occur in such close quarters to have weird aimbot attacks. If getting rid of auto tracking breaks characters, then make the characters better instead of relying on that.
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Yardbomb posted:It's the weirder stuff that messes with the game so hard. Maxed out debuff resist is goofy too, suddenly you can tech out of all sorts of poo poo you're not usually able to and now even guard breaks are removed from the pool of tools against you. It was kinda dumb that a berserker could 100% dodge a shield bash combo that is usually guaranteed because his debuff resistance is high enough. It essentially removes a tool from my arsenal and I have no way of knowing who is immune to it until I try it on them. hey welcome to the show! posted:I feel the same. Unless they play something with a shove move that turns into a knockdown and you eat two heavy attacks before getting up that probably outright kills you.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Gear stats have kinda killed my casual interest in 4v4, especially with friends, none of us are going to spend money on microtransactions to speed up the process of getting the gear, so our 5 to 20 gearscore gets matched up against 108 guys, was demoralizing to be spawncamped by a peacekeeper with perma revenge, max attack/defense and every attack bleeds. You really don't have to spend any money to get gear. I haven't bought any steel and I'm ilvl 90. EDIT: Although to be fair, before last night I basically only exclusively played 1v1 and 2v2. fadam fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Feb 25, 2017 |
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Xeremides posted:I'm going to get poo poo for this, but the thing that bothers me most about this game is the auto tracking. If you try to guard break, it should happen dead ahead of you. If someone is dodging to the side, almost turning at a 90 degree angle to follow up, or sliding like 10 feet to guard break, shouldn't be things. I think it's that auto tracking that makes characters like Warden annoying for people to fight (and easy for me to exploit), or makes battles against Conqs and Warlords into a slog. I'm probably bitching because I'm too used to Soulsborne, and now Nioh (which is worse as far as auto tracking goes), but it seems absurd for a game where fights occur in such close quarters to have weird aimbot attacks. If getting rid of auto tracking breaks characters, then make the characters better instead of relying on that. Nah you right
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Bleed shouldn't kill and it's such a lame, dry fart of an ending to anything, even using it.
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Yardbomb posted:Bleed shouldn't kill and it's such a lame, dry fart of an ending to anything, even using it. Counterpoint: Viper's Retreat then Top Heavy feint into salute emote as the Peacekeeper rolls backwards with only a sliver of health left.
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This is what you should be doing during honorable combat, not interfering with the fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYf1oQj1AvE I'm a good person
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Speaking of honor. https://www.google.ca/amp/www.eurogamer.net/amp/2017-02-24-the-unspoken-rules-of-for-honor
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Red Mundus posted:Speaking of honor. Jesus lmao. I know it's not cool to call people autistic anymore but come on.
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fadam posted:Jesus lmao. I know it's not cool to call people autistic anymore but come on. You say that, but that was the status quo in plenty of competitive games like 15 years ago. I think I preferred it that way. That said, this game has taught me people care more about winning than anything else, so I'm not going to bother hamstringing myself. Your rear end is going into a puddle, or spikes. Especially if you're a conq or warlord and we're on a bridge.
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Xeremides posted:You say that, but that was the status quo in plenty of competitive games like 15 years ago. I think I preferred it that way. What competitive games are you talking about?
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fadam posted:What competitive games are you talking about? Earth's Special Forces (dbz hl mod), JKO, JKA, SSB...basically anything that involved dueling. Games that allow for dueling usually come up with various "fair play" rules. Hell, JKA straight up put you in a dueling bubble that prevented others from interfering if that's what 2 people wanted. Xeremides fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Feb 25, 2017 |
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You said competitive games, not games where people RP as Jedi in FFA servers.
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fadam posted:You said competitive games, not games where people RP as Jedi in FFA servers. Right, I said competitive games, as in games where individuals compete. If you only played on RP servers, that's on you. There were plenty of clan servers that were just about seeing who was better. Same deal with ESF, where people would literally go to the corner of the map to fight each other in duels, and if you interfered, someone would probably kick or ban you.
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MadJackMcJack posted:Tip 1: Realize that the fat man is best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e40PLs6EDTo
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Xeremides posted:Earth's Special Forces (dbz hl mod), JKO, JKA, SSB...basically anything that involved dueling. Games that allow for dueling usually come up with various "fair play" rules. Hell, JKA straight up put you in a dueling bubble that prevented others from interfering if that's what 2 people wanted. I know it's a relatively unknown feature to people who whine about honor, but this game has that sort of "dueling bubble" mechanic as well. It's called queuing for 1v1
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Haroshia posted:I know it's a relatively unknown feature to people who whine about honor, but this game has that sort of "dueling bubble" mechanic as well. Like I said, I just play to win now since that's the game people seem to prefer. But while I do like dueling, and I got my first 2 prestiges solely through dueling, a lot of the time my experience was getting matched with the same person over and over and over again, or getting matched with people of a significantly higher skillset than myself. 2v2s seems to always have a much higher population, so it's easier to get into, and you'll get to play against a wider range of people. That said, I won't interfere in my partner's fight after I've won mine unless the opposing team does it first. Some habits die hard, I guess.
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Xeremides posted:Like I said, I just play to win now since that's the game people seem to prefer. But while I do like dueling, and I got my first 2 prestiges solely through dueling, a lot of the time my experience was getting matched with the same person over and over and over again, or getting matched with people of a significantly higher skillset than myself. 2v2s seems to always have a much higher population, so it's easier to get into, and you'll get to play against a wider range of people. That said, I won't interfere in my partner's fight after I've won mine unless the opposing team does it first. Some habits die hard, I guess. I hang back if by bro is winning not out of a sense of honor, but because I'd rather not accidentally feed revenge.
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