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Reminder that the cut off for membership in the "youth" or "young" wings of most conservative oriented political parties is typically around 35 (for the young PCs in Canada, prior to their dissolution) to 40 (in the case of the Republicans). For comparison, the young NDP and young Liberals are both oriented around people 25 and under.
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Well yeah.You can't have frosh who still live in their mom's basement elected to office. That'd just be embarrassing.
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Frosted Flake posted:Trip Report: Food was okay, Preston Manning is boring. Dish gurl
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Helsing posted:Reminder that the cut off for membership in the "youth" or "young" wings of most conservative oriented political parties is typically around 35 (for the young PCs in Canada, prior to their dissolution) to 40 (in the case of the Republicans). Holy poo poo, I still have time to be a young PC!
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Feb 25, 2017 21:29
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infernal machines posted:Holy poo poo, I still have time to be a young PC! Nope. The Young PC's were actually an independent force within the Progressive Conservatives. Their leadership were vocal proponents of uniting the PCs and the Alliance. After that merger happened the delegates at the founding convention of the new Conservative Party narrowly voted against maintaining a separate youth wing, which I've anecdotally heard was in part because Stephen Harper didn't want to have any independent bases of power or influence within the party.
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Funkdreamer posted:So how complaisant has the conservative establishment gotten about open racism Well, those stupid red hats were everywhere. I don't know if it means the same thing here, but visually it's a weird message to send.  There was a talk titled "Leading the Response to Islamist Extremism and its Ideology in Canada" so that should give you an idea.
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Frosted Flake posted:Well, those stupid red hats were everywhere. I don't know if it means the same thing here, but visually it's a weird message to send. The fact that Canadian rednecks are so afraid of encroaching Islam is so weird, since all of the Muslims I have ever met are the least loving pushy people regarding religion. On the other hand, there were tons of people I knew who were Christian or Catholic when I was growing up in Northern Alberta who were anything but.
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Why isn't there a campaign to vanquish Catholicism in Canada anyway
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Gorewar posted:The fact that Canadian rednecks are so afraid of encroaching Islam They're not specifically afraid of "Islam", they don't know poo poo about Islam. If it weren't Muslims, it would be Jews, or Sikhs, or Catholics. But they've spent the last 20 years hearing endlessly about "radical Islam" on the news and they have absolutely no context for it, having never actually spoken to a Muslim before, so they go all  If you spend 20 years explicitly mentioning an identifiable group in a negative context, some people are going to reflexively hate them without actually knowing anything about them. namaste faggots posted:Why isn't there a campaign to vanquish Catholicism in Canada anyway In the country that has explicit constitutional protections for Catholic schools? Why indeed.
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infernal machines posted:They're not specifically afraid of "Islam", they don't know poo poo about Islam. If it weren't Muslims, it would be Jews, or Sikhs, or Catholics. But they've spent the last 20 years hearing endlessly about "radical Islam" on the news and they have absolutely no context for it, having never actually spoken to a Muslim before, so they go all Exactly this. As far as I can tell for North American history, there has always been a threatening outsider other. Irish/Polish, Germans, Blacks, Japanese, Soviets, Chinese, Arabs. Probably missing a few. Has there ever been a time when the establishment didn't point to a particular ethnic/culutral group as a threat?
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The Butcher posted:Exactly this. As far as I can tell for North American history, there has always been a threatening outsider other. Irish/Polish, Germans, Blacks, Japanese, Soviets, Chinese, Arabs. Probably missing a few. How could you miss Nazis?
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Postess with the Mostest posted:How could you miss Nazis? That's quite an equivalence you've got yourself there.
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Our lizard brains quite enjoy having an other to fear. You would think that in a society as advanced as our own we could learn how to get a handle on our instinctual fears through some well-trained executive functioning, but lowest common denominator etc etc.
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infernal machines posted:That's quite an equivalence you've got yourself there. Wasn't meant to be equivalent but another threatening outsider other.
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That would fall under "Germans" dude. And I should have put "Soviets" as "Russians". All were discriminated against in NA based on their heritage during the appropriate historical conflicts.
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Wasn't meant to be equivalent but another threatening outsider other. Uh huh. There's a bit of a difference there. Presumably you understand why mentioning Nazis in the same breath as "Irish/Polish, Germans, Blacks, Japanese, Soviets, Chinese, Arabs" might convey a different message by associating those groups. My original point was that "Canadian rednecks" or whoever are terrified of Islam because we had a war to sell in 2003 and the brave Taliban warriors we supported in the 1980s had to be the evil Muslim extremists this time around. Of course we weren't covering all the Islamic sects that didn't go around oppressing the poo poo out of everyone, so now Islam is permanently linked to the worst aspects of its most regressive fundamentalist practitioners. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Feb 26, 2017 |
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The Butcher posted:That would fall under "Germans" dude. Nono not the German Nazis, I mean the Nazis everyone was OK with punching a couple weeks ago.
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Nono not the German Nazis, I mean the Nazis everyone was OK with punching a couple weeks ago. So you're explicitly making a connection between identifiable religious/ethnic groups and a political ideology based on racial purity and genocide? Why is that?
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yeah when i think of marginalized groups that have been unjustly othered by north american society my mind immediately goes to NAZIS
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infernal machines posted:So you're explicitly making a connection between identifiable religious/ethnic groups and a political ideology based on racial purity and genocide? He said "threatening"?
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IMO the best was: The Millennial Mindset A look into public opinion research on millenial views towards politics Or Youth Lunch: Stifling Dissent-Conservatism on Campus Being a conservative on campus has never been easy, but it's now becoming impossible. Hear from young leaders and their experiences in pushing back against the left on campus. There were a few along that vein but those were the big ones. Also 2 more panels on  ISLAMIC EXTREMISM. Worth noting, most of the youth speakers were from the Hillel crowd and their talks on censorship often included asides about how liberal censorship on campus was just like how anti-Semitic campuses are and how proud Jews can't support Israel without being protested.
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Postess with the Mostest posted:He said "threatening"? And again, I'm wondering what the commonality is here. There's a perceived threat from religious/ethnic groups, sometimes driven by sensationalized reporting on their most extreme members. And then there's Nazis. Are you suggesting that Nazis are not actually a threat to western society? Or maybe that there are more moderate white nationalists being unfairly tarred with the term Nazi? I'm not the quickest when it comes to these nth degree association games, so if you can spell it out for me it would help.
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More support for people working multiple part time jobs? Sign me up
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"Provide info to students that discipline is required in the workforce" haha Just share that post-it on social media, bam, done!
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 Did someone say...?  Ah, who are we kidding. Conservatives would only accept Wheeler and Linka.
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I want to know what the supposed Personal Attack was
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Eej posted:More support for people working multiple part time jobs? Sign me up How do we explain that your inability to support yourself due to the implementation of our economic and labour policies over the past 30 years is in fact your own fault?
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Does "issues of heart" mean abortion
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Funkdreamer posted:Does "issues of heart" mean abortion Israel
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Funkdreamer posted:Does "issues of heart" mean abortion It means none of their positions make any rational sense and so the best way to win people over is to abandon arguing otherwise and make nothing but direct appeals to emotion to sell themselves
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Tighclops posted:It means none of their positions make any rational sense and so the best way to win people over is to abandon arguing otherwise and make nothing but direct appeals to emotion to sell themselves Logic and facts disprove their motive/idea, so instead it becomes a matter of feeling that its right.
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infernal machines posted:And again, I'm wondering what the commonality is here. If we accept that Justin Trudeau is a white supremacist, you wouldn't split hairs with someone calling him a nazi right? My original comment was a regrettably obtuse dig that people on the left also falsely stereotype. We all do, lizard brains, etc.
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Postess with the Mostest posted:If we accept that Justin Trudeau is a white supremacist, you wouldn't split hairs with someone calling him a nazi right? Yeah how dare the left stereotype that guy who was filmed saying Nazi slogans to a crowd while that crowd gave him the Nazi salute as a Nazi.
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Postess with the Mostest posted:If we accept that Justin Trudeau is a white supremacist, you wouldn't split hairs with someone calling him a nazi right? You make the most graceful rhetorical leaps, it's beautiful to watch.
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I finished watching the 1984 Canadian election debate >>>NERD ALERT<<< and good lord, John Turner is just the worst speaker ever. Broadbent and Mulroney crushed him for two hours straight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydv3f4Qfd0E The Broadbent/Mulroney segment (it was actually 3 one-on-one debates) was the most interesting part, because you get to see how the left was defending itself against the oncoming Reagan freight train, and also because you don't have to continuously pause/unpause through Turner's cringey defences.
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