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hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008


Why do they need polygraphs?

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M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/835608648625836032

AhahahahaHhhhAhAHAHAHAH

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

hobbesmaster posted:

Why do they need polygraphs?

It's pretty common in law enforcement and similar.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Holy gently caress cancelling on the WHCD was a mistake. Journalists have been wringing their hands about the WHCD constantly, it's basically a massive smokescreen that donnie could've thrown at any time. People go nuts when 'the media' talks about itself, so would've been a stone-cold winner for Donnie to just sit on the fence and never say anything about it as outlet after outlet cancels their attendance, perpetuating the smokescreen.

Instead, it's all over now. HOW IS HE SO BAD AT THIS?

https://twitter.com/ibflorea/status/835610193018900481

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Feb 25, 2017

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

I am now a little confused.

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer
Donald Trump is literally your racist dementia riddled grandpa who became the president and watches fox news all the time while posting his hot takes on facebook twitter.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Poor widdle Don Don remembos what happened last time he showed up. Quick someone invite Obama in his stead, or Hilldawg.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

Casimir Radon posted:

Poor widdle Don Don remembers what happened last tine he showed up. Quick someone invite Obama in his stead, or Hilldawg.

I thought it got cancelled like 18 hours ago

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

TBeats posted:

I thought it got cancelled like 18 hours ago

That was the main afterparty. I bet it gets uncancelled!

https://twitter.com/alexburnsNYT/status/835611945399160834

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

facialimpediment posted:

That was the main afterparty. I bet it gets uncancelled!

Ohhhh okay.

Sounds like Trump is a snowflake that needs a safe space.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
E:NM

A Handed Missus
Aug 6, 2012


https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/835610361252413440

Spicy noooooo

also the loving correspondent's dinner cannot top this poo poo ever so who cares

quote:

Both President Obama and then-Secretary of Defense Robert Gates were seen laughing at Meyers' jokes about the government's apparent inability to track down Osama Bin Laden, even though they were a day away from the operation to assassinate him.

A Handed Missus fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Feb 25, 2017

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

https://twitter.com/zachbraff/status/835613833372684288

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Couldn't whoever owns FOX News use this information to manipulate the President's public position?

Have a segment like:
"In other news, (Whatever) has pledged to hire more Americans, in contrast to firms such as (Rival) who use Obama's visa loopholes to hire foreign workers."

He'd then tweet:
"Wow! Only (Whatever) cares about American workers. Unlike Obamas pals (Rival). Sad!"

Their stock goes up, other guy's goes down.

FastestGunAlive
Apr 7, 2010

Dancing palm tree.

A Handed Missus posted:

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/835610361252413440

Spicy noooooo

also the loving correspondent's dinner cannot top this poo poo ever so who cares

Lmao that owns. Just imagining those two sitting there laughing at everyone all :chord:

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp

Cugel the Clever posted:

At least it's not a Clinton toady. :shrug:

But yeah, it's definitely a sign that the party establishment is trying to placate the left while safeguarding their own positions (and thus likely continuing their losing strategy). Don't know much about Perez. Hopefully he actually has some substance to him and will move things in the right direction, but we'll see. Nobody can be as horrendous as DWS.

Perez's main claim to fame is that he was Obama's Secretary of Labor, where he did a pretty good job of revitalizing the Department of Labor and implementing worker-friendly policies, including the revamped overtime rules that are currently in limbo. Before that he was Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, where he did a lot of work combating voter suppression and other issues.

What a lot of people forget is that Perez was one of the most progressive member's of Obama's cabinet, and that he was universally opposed by Republicans when he was appointed to DoL for being too left-wing. He doesn't have as much direct electoral experience as Ellison, but he does have more credentials in running a large bureaucratic organization. In reality, there's not a lot of daylight between Ellison and Perez's policy positions, and with Ellison getting appointed Deputy Chair both voices are going to be represented in the party leadership.

It remains to be seen how effective Perez will be at actually rebuilding the party, but if he can actually get the Democrats back on the right foot and start winning elections that's really all that matters.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Frosted Flake posted:

Couldn't whoever owns FOX News use this information to manipulate the President's public position?

Have a segment like:
"In other news, (Whatever) has pledged to hire more Americans, in contrast to firms such as (Rival) who use Obama's visa loopholes to hire foreign workers."

He'd then tweet:
"Wow! Only (Whatever) cares about American workers. Unlike Obamas pals (Rival). Sad!"

Their stock goes up, other guy's goes down.

well yeah, the fact that donnie dumbfuck is too stupid to realise this is just....... diamond joe said it better than i ever could

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw0ifjpVTtY&t=12s

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
So in case you were wondering how Bannon and company were going to gently caress things over for McMaster:

https://twitter.com/IvoHDaalder/status/835492763693170688

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Office Pig posted:

So in case you were wondering how Bannon and company were going to gently caress things over for McMaster:

https://twitter.com/IvoHDaalder/status/835492763693170688

no worries, ignoring intel has historically worked out really well for the good ol' us of a

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


Of course Trump isn't going, it's on a Saturday

bengy81
May 8, 2010

Acebuckeye13 posted:

Perez's main claim to fame is that he was Obama's Secretary of Labor, where he did a pretty good job of revitalizing the Department of Labor and implementing worker-friendly policies, including the revamped overtime rules that are currently in limbo. Before that he was Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, where he did a lot of work combating voter suppression and other issues.

What a lot of people forget is that Perez was one of the most progressive member's of Obama's cabinet, and that he was universally opposed by Republicans when he was appointed to DoL for being too left-wing. He doesn't have as much direct electoral experience as Ellison, but he does have more credentials in running a large bureaucratic organization. In reality, there's not a lot of daylight between Ellison and Perez's policy positions, and with Ellison getting appointed Deputy Chair both voices are going to be represented in the party leadership.

It remains to be seen how effective Perez will be at actually rebuilding the party, but if he can actually get the Democrats back on the right foot and start winning elections that's really all that matters.

It doesn't matter who the chair is if they can't push the Pelosi and DWS types to the sidelines.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit

shyduck posted:

Of course Trump isn't going, it's on a Saturday

For some next level trolling we need some insanely rich people to start reserving the Trump golf courses for their use every weekend for the next four years just so Trump can't golf at his own clubs

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Perez doesn't have the baggage Ellison does either. "Said something nice about Nation of Islam" when he was young and naive is definitely something Republicans would never shut up about.

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

Pesticide20 posted:

For some next level trolling we need some insanely rich people to start reserving the Trump golf courses for their use every weekend for the next four years just so Trump can't golf at his own clubs

If the DNC had some brains and balls, they would put some of that warchest money to good use driving Donny off the wall, goading him to lash out at his own party, then good-cop/bad-copping their way into his inner circle.

It's been plainly demonstrated that you can play him like the finest gold stringed instrument.

This will never happen. Because Perez.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

MRC48B posted:

If the DNC had some brains and balls, they would put some of that warchest money to good use driving Donny off the wall, goading him to lash out at his own party, then good-cop/bad-copping their way into his inner circle.

It's been plainly demonstrated that you can play him like the finest gold stringed instrument.

This will never happen. Because Perez.

yeah perez is because that's not going to happen :jerkbag:

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

You misunderstand, Perez is the symptom. They appointed another centrist because they lack imagination.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

MRC48B posted:

You misunderstand, Perez is the symptom. They appointed another centrist because they lack imagination.

might want to do some background reading that isn't twitter, hoss

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

might want to do some background reading that isn't twitter, hoss

Democrats come in three flavors: RINOs (Hillary and everyone right of her), centrists (every other Democrat), and Bernie.

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

So Perez is going to whip the Dems away from stupid issues like gun control, and flip Michigan, Wi, and Ohio blue again?

I wish I shared your optimism.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


MRC48B posted:

So Perez is going to whip the Dems away from stupid issues like gun control, and flip Michigan, Wi, and Ohio blue again?

I wish I shared your optimism.

If only.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
why do you think that would be the case? why do you think ellison (who perez named has his right-hand man) wouldn't do that as well. what specifically makes perez and ellison different ideologically?

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

might want to do some background reading that isn't twitter, hoss

Like on this same loving page, for example.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp

MRC48B posted:

So Perez is going to whip the Dems away from stupid issues like gun control, and flip Michigan, Wi, and Ohio blue again?

I wish I shared your optimism.

Hillary only lost Michigan by a fraction of a percentage point. With some good organizing on the ground, it's entirely possible that 2018 will see Michigan go blue in the Governor and Senate races.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

The Democrats need grass roots organizers on the national committee. That poo poo has little to do with ideology until you're in a general election year.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
Democrats lost the economic message. Electing a the former Secretary of Labor for an extremely popular president who then nominated his chief rival as his assistant signals doom and gloom because:

???

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

The big differences between Perez and Ellison seem to be a) who supports them, and b) electoral operational experience. Perez seems like a good guy but it's an electoral operational role and he doesn't have experience there, and all the establishment losers who are happy to lose elections as long as they get to keep their speaker fees support him, so this sure doesn't seem great for the party. The democratic party overall is not acting like an organization in crisis, and it is. Their electoral collapse would be stunning in any time period, and it is absolutely incredible that it's happened in a time when the country has moved left on many issues, and when a popular democratic president was in charge.

Best Friends fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Feb 26, 2017

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-immigration-agents-hospital-seizure-20170223-story.html

"Sara Beltran-Hernandez, 26, a mother of two young children, was bound by her hands and feet and removed by wheelchair from Huguley Hospital in Fort Worth late Wednesday by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents who brought her to a detention facility in Alvarado, Texas."

:wtc:

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
Remember when republicans were saying democrats were like the Germans who followed Hitler

Lol

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp

Best Friends posted:

The big differences between Perez and Ellison seem to be a) who supports them, and b) electoral operational experience. Perez seems like a good guy but it's an electoral operational role and he doesn't have experience there, and all the establishment losers who are happy to lose elections as long as they get to keep their speaker fees support him, so this sure doesn't seem great for the party. The democratic party overall is not acting like an organization in crisis, and it is. Their electoral collapse would be stunning in any time period, and it is absolutely incredible that it's happened in a time when the country has moved left on many issues, and when a popular democratic president was in charge.

At the same time, Perez also has more experience running a large bureaucracy and coordinating with outside groups. It's a wash as to who's more 'experienced', really.

Really though, the fact that the two are friends and Perez immediately made Ellison Deputy Chair gives me hope that the two will be able to work closely to help jump-start the reinvigoration of state and local parties the Democrats desperately need.

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Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Bernie Bros learned the wrong lesson from past year. I don't necessarily think Bernie would have won. Bernie didn't exactly have the mainstream appeal they think he had. Especially not in the face of angry, poor, stupid, white people who just wanted to burn it all down.

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