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Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe
Is it Trump is hosed or trump has hosed? The latter seems to be the case.

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XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
trump has hosed (his daughter)

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Trump actually IS hosed though.

As are we all.

Because Nothing we do on this pathetic rock matters and even if it did, it will all be for naught when the universe eventually suffers heat death and all existence ends.

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



nigga crab pollock posted:

it's because the Democrats are more of a stumbling embarrassment than the Trump administration and I say that fully acknowledging that they're a bunch of incompetent morons

If that helps explain why Bernie (pbuh) lost to a terrible candidate then OK

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.
If we're all hosed then nobody is hosed :angel:

The Landstander
Apr 20, 2004

I stand on land.
Politics lately keeps making me think of this tweet:

https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/746181566351679492

Krustic
Mar 28, 2010

Everything I say draws controversy. It's kinda like the abortion issue.

feelix posted:

it's seeming more and more likely that the comedy option of "run Hillary again in 2020 and lose again" is gonna be realit

I wanna think that they couldn't possibly be that stupid but I don't know anymore.

Krustic fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Feb 26, 2017

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Toadvine posted:

A very wealthy pro-Israel dnc donor hates Ellison, that's likely where this story originated.

the evil jewish conspiracy is literally standing in the way of communism huh

rezatahs
Jun 9, 2001

by Smythe

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

the evil jewish conspiracy is literally standing in the way of communism huh

quote:

MINNESOTA DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN Keith Ellison lost his bid to become the chair of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) on Saturday after a scorched-earth smear campaign targeting his religious faith, his affinity for the Nation of Islam in his youth, and his support for Palestinian rights alongside a secure Israel.

Instead, the majority of the DNC’s voting members chose former labor secretary Tom Perez to lead the party. After two rounds of voting in Atlanta, Perez netted 235 votes to Ellison’s 200.

Perez was widely perceived as being brought into the race by allies of President Obama, former Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, and other members of the party establishment. One of the speakers who introduced his nomination, South Carolina Democratic Party Chair Jamie Harrison, also works as a corporate lobbyist for the D.C.-based Podesta Group. After neither candidate reached a majority of votes in the first round of voting, Harrison was on the floor, whipping votes for Perez.

Ellison — a black man, a Bernie Sanders supporter, and the first Muslim elected to Congress — earned initial support from many Democrats until a strong backlash from the Obama and Clinton camps and prominent pro-Israeli activists.

Haim Saban, the entertainment tycoon who is one of the Democratic Party’s largest donors, called Ellison both “anti-Israel” and anti-Semitic. The Anti-Defamation League called on Democrats to reject him. On the eve of the vote, prominent Democrat Alan Dershowitz proclaimed that he would leave the party if Ellison were elected chair; Jack Rosen, who leads the American Jewish Congress, emailed DNC members the day before the vote decrying Ellison’s views on the Middle East, concluding that he threatened the U.S.-Israel relationship.

Perez, on the other hand, courted pro-Israel activists during the course of the contest.

Shortly after his victory, Perez offered the newly created position of “deputy chair” to Ellison, which Ellison accepted. This is not an official position in the DNC’s bylaws so it is unclear what this position would entail. It is also unclear whether Ellison will still leave Congress, which he announced he would do if he won the chair position.

Many prominent Muslim Americans expressed disappointment in Ellison’s defeat, saying that his treatment during the course of the campaign was emblematic of how Muslims fare in public life.

The Brookings Institution’s Shadi Hamid, former Al Jazeera host Wajahat Ali, and prominent Muslim New Yorker Linda Sarsour reacted on Twitter:

Sadly, this is the sort of thing that's done to any Muslim who runs for office. Apparently, this DNC race wasn't enough to put an end to it https://t.co/twmFw8J6V8

— Shadi Hamid (@shadihamid) February 25, 2017

Ellison 4 2 state solution, voted to give $$ to Israel, against BDS, gets backing of respected Jewish Ams = still not enough to remove smear

— Wajahat Ali (@WajahatAli) February 25, 2017

Not going to lie. I am disappointed. I get solace knowing @keithellison keeps his seat in Congress. Hope he runs for Senate. #DNCChair

— Linda Sarsour (@lsarsour) February 25, 2017

T.S. Smelliot
Apr 23, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Krustic posted:

I wanna that they couldn't possibly be that stupid but I don't know anymore.

Brother this year seems to be the year of dreams so

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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bernie camp learns nothing, fields idealistic candidate, comes second place again lol

rezatahs
Jun 9, 2001

by Smythe

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

bernie camp learns nothing, fields idealistic candidate, comes second place again lol

hey if you guys want to keep losing its no skin off my back

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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rezatahs posted:

hey if you guys want to keep losing its no skin off my back

neoliberals still have a higher chance of winning US elections than socialists will ever have lmao

rezatahs
Jun 9, 2001

by Smythe

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

neoliberals still have a higher chance of winning US elections than socialists will ever have lmao

that's very true but it's going to be the lockstep republicans that keep winning it and not the terribly divided left :shrug:

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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rezatahs posted:

that's very true but it's going to be the lockstep republicans that keep winning it and not the terribly divided left :shrug:

yes so maybe, just maybe, the divided left should try doing that thing where you focus on the important issue (getting into power by making some compromises) instead of the other not so important issues (trying to save everyone in palestine, which they won't be able to do anyway since they will never get into power lmao)

heehee
Sep 5, 2012

haha wow i cant believe how lucky we got to win :D

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

neoliberals still have a higher chance of winning US elections than socialists will ever have lmao

Bernie Sanders: most popular politician in America

Hillary Clinton: lost to literal Donald Trump


Buhhhhhhuhuh

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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heeheex2 posted:

Bernie Sanders: most popular politician in America

Hillary Clinton: lost to literal Donald Trump


Buhhhhhhuhuh

it doesn't matter how popular you are if you can't navigate through the political system to reach your super great benevolent goals, same reason it doesn't matter clinton won the popular vote

rezatahs
Jun 9, 2001

by Smythe

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

yes so maybe, just maybe, the divided left should try doing that thing where you focus on the important issue (getting into power by making some compromises) instead of the other not so important issues (trying to save everyone in palestine, which they won't be able to do anyway since they will never get into power lmao)

as the dems are currently operating i really don't care if they ever come back into power

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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rezatahs posted:

as the dems are currently operating i really don't care if they ever come back into power

republican supermajority 2020 here we come

rezatahs
Jun 9, 2001

by Smythe

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

republican supermajority 2020 here we come

i mean you think losing to lol donald j. trump would've been a moment for introspection but noooooope

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

Cthulu Carl posted:

Trump actually IS hosed though.

As are we all.

Because Nothing we do on this pathetic rock matters and even if it did, it will all be for naught when the universe eventually suffers heat death and all existence ends.

yo i keep hearing about this heat death of the universe and end of our existence but it seems like all talk and no action

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

neoliberals still have a higher chance of winning US elections than socialists will ever have lmao

in polls americans are mostly socialists.

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Groovelord Neato posted:

in polls americans are mostly socialists.

the polls are fake news

feelix
Nov 27, 2016
THE ONLY EXERCISE I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH IS EXERCISING MY ABILITY TO MAKE A POST PEOPLE WANT TO READ

Groovelord Neato posted:

in polls americans are mostly socialists.

im racist

strange feelings re Daisy
Aug 2, 2000

rezatahs posted:

i mean you think losing to lol donald j. trump would've been a moment for introspection but noooooope
Democrat autopsy report on the 2016 election:
Just kidding there literally isn't one, because the leadership thinks they did nothing wrong.

Ork of Fiction
Jul 22, 2013

thathonkey posted:

there is a video of him being asked to read aloud part of a contract by a lawyer or something and he basically refuses to do it; ends up paraphrasing it. probably thought it was some kind of slick legal tactic but it does make it seem like he is barely literate.

I know that Richard Branson of the Virgin company is functionally illiterate from how dyslexic he is. Based on the way Trump operates, I'd suppose Easy D is also moderate-to-severe dyslexic.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
yeah that is probably likely in which case it isn't really very nice to make fun of him for

but gently caress him haha ole illiterate rear end bitch

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

Groovelord Neato posted:

in polls americans are mostly socialists.

The majority of people all want essential the same thing - to be fairly rewarded for work, treated fairly by the system, and to live comfortably with a good balance of work/life e.g. to be middle class

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We
so apparently this ny post headline is actually not an exaggeration at all

http://nypost.com/2017/02/25/the-next-womens-march-is-co-organized-by-a-terrorist/

apparently a completely true story posted:

Instead of milling around Washington, organizers have in mind a “general strike” called the Day without a Woman. In a manifesto published in The Guardian on Feb. 6, the brains behind the movement are calling for a “new wave of militant feminist struggle.” That’s right: militant, not peaceful.

The document was co-authored by, among others, Rasmea Yousef Odeh, a convicted terrorist. Odeh, a Palestinian, was convicted in Israel in 1970 for her part in two terrorist bombings, one of which killed two students while they were shopping for groceries. She spent 10 years in prison for her crimes. She then managed to become a US citizen in 2004 by lying about her past (great detective work, INS: Next time, use Google) but was subsequently convicted, in 2014, of immigration fraud for the falsehoods. However, she won the right to a new trial (set for this spring) by claiming she had been suffering from PTSD at the time she lied on her application. Oh, and in her time as a citizen, she worked for a while as an ObamaCare navigator.

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

so apparently this ny post headline is actually not an exaggeration at all

http://nypost.com/2017/02/25/the-next-womens-march-is-co-organized-by-a-terrorist/

Here, a Women's March Speaker helped sodomize a gay man to death for fun

http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/26/womens-march-featured-speaker-who-kidnapped-raped-and-tortured-a-man/

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We

what the gently caress happened to the more or less reasonable feminist left i used to associate with lmao

SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe

Cthulu Carl posted:

Trump actually IS hosed though.

As are we all.

Because Nothing we do on this pathetic rock matters and even if it did, it will all be for naught when the universe eventually suffers heat death and all existence ends.

the earth is but as a mote of dust in a sunbeam before the majesty of the cosmos

Edmund Sparkler
Jul 4, 2003
For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is John Galt? This is John Galt speaking. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values. I am the man who has deprived you of victims and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are peris

Wow, p messed up that they didn't arrest her and send her to prison to pay for her crimes and hopefully turn her life around. Instead they just shoved her in a time machine set for "25 years" and here she is.

JB50
Feb 13, 2008


LOL Ellison taken down by money from the power rangers.

SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe

Meredith Baxter-Burnout posted:

hopefully turn her life around.

haha good one, like the criminal justice system gives a poo poo about that

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We

Meredith Baxter-Burnout posted:

Wow, p messed up that they didn't arrest her and send her to prison to pay for her crimes and hopefully turn her life around. Instead they just shoved her in a time machine set for "25 years" and here she is.

this poster has certainly picked a very interesting hill to die on

Edmund Sparkler
Jul 4, 2003
For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is John Galt? This is John Galt speaking. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values. I am the man who has deprived you of victims and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are peris

SHISHKABOB posted:

haha good one, like the criminal justice system gives a poo poo about that

It doesn't mean someone can't take it upon themselves to change despite their circumstances. This is terrible optics but she did her time so I don't see how this somehow proves anything sinister about this organization.

SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe

Meredith Baxter-Burnout posted:

It doesn't mean someone can't take it upon themselves to change despite their circumstances. This is terrible optics but she did her time so I don't see how this somehow proves anything sinister about this organization.

omg go die

Harrower
Nov 30, 2002

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

what the gently caress happened to the more or less reasonable feminist left i used to associate with lmao

Replaced by a bunch of bitter old lesbians who want revenge on men for making them feel ugly and stupid for getting degrees in feminism.

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JB50
Feb 13, 2008

Meredith Baxter-Burnout posted:

It doesn't mean someone can't take it upon themselves to change despite their circumstances. This is terrible optics but she did her time so I don't see how this somehow proves anything sinister about this organization.

Imagine a republican that had done that to a gay man 25 years ago. Think it would be just hand waved away?

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